Mikel Landa Discussion Thread

[staubsauger]

That part where Wellens attacked last year or am I mixing it up with another race?

 

[KyoGrey]

So Intxausti, Nieve and probably the Henao bros. to help Mikel Landa in his assault to Il Giro d'Italia.

I personally think that the parcours will be fantastic and that the superstars will be alone in the important situations of the race, but...

¿How do you rate Sky's Giro team compared to Astaná's? ¿On the same level maybe?

 

[Brullnux]

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That part where Wellens attacked last year or am I mixing it up with another race?

Tbh honest last year's Giro do Lombardia may as well have been a completely different race. This is much much harder and there is no uphill sprint.

 

[Rollthedice]

Since when is Landa supposed to be a classics rider? There is one thing he is doing well and that's climbing.

 

[Red Rick]

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Since when is Landa supposed to be a classics rider? There is one thing he is doing well and that's climbing.

Weird things happen in Lombardia, and if the parcours is good enough he's got a shot. Lombardia is more about freshness than raw ability

 

[Matteo.]

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Since when is Landa supposed to be a classics rider? There is one thing he is doing well and that's climbing.

'cause Nibalis is ?

i think this Lombardia suits a lot for climbers , and that's the reason 'cause nibali is the favorite. anyway, also Landa
could have its say in an another team, but he will work for Nibali

 

[jens_attacks]

this is the hardest finale for lombardia ever. only the pure climbers can win

4 km@10% is no joke.

 

[markene2]

I still dont see this as a fantastic move for Landa, they allready got König, Froome, Roche and Thomas. In the end he will still end up domestieqing for Froome in the biggest races.

Hypothetically, if Landa does the Giro, he will be the new Porte for Froome in the Tour, after that he is in no shape to fight for the GC in the Vuleta.

 

[hrotha]

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Since when is Landa supposed to be a classics rider? There is one thing he is doing well and that's climbing.

He's pretty punchy.

 

[SeriousSam]

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I still dont see this as a fantastic move for Landa, they allready got König, Froome, Roche and Thomas. In the end he will still end up domestieqing for Froome in the biggest races.

Hypothetically, if Landa does the Giro, he will be the new Porte for Froome in the Tour, after that he is in no shape to fight for the GC in the Vuleta.

He gets leadership for the Giro, gets to learn under the best GT rider in the world at the Tour, and a huge wage. It's a fantastic move with the only possible downside that the doesn't fit in with anglo centric Sky. But they've got some Spaniards there as well so it should be ok.

There's no team that would have made him the leader, with a committed team and no Tour duties, at both the Giro and the Vuelta.

 

[KyoGrey]

I can understand Valverde and Purito fans getting a little bit itchy because of the Landa superhype for Lombardia.

But Nibali fans? Why?

 

[pastronef]

I can understand Valverde and Purito fans getting a little bit itchy because of the Landa superhype for Lombardia.

But Nibali fans? Why?

because Landa already signed elsewhere, and even though he wears an Astana jersey he maybe won't be so committed to the team.
I hope he wins it

 

[Pentacycle]

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Since when is Landa supposed to be a classics rider? There is one thing he is doing well and that's climbing.

He's pretty punchy.

Contador is too. Yet he's never won Lombardia.

Let Landa first prove he can handle a tough finale after such distance.

 

[jens_attacks]

contador had never ridden lombardia on this route though.

civiglio is harder than superga.

 

[Taxus4a]

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Since when is Landa supposed to be a classics rider? There is one thing he is doing well and that's climbing.

He is a pure climber, that is true, but he was second in Estella, just Dani Moreno beated him, and he was 5th in San Sebastian. He was young an now he is better, so I think he can do very well in Lieje, but mainly in Lombardia. He dont like short climbs.. so, if he managed to be second in Indurain, he can be much better in Lombardia, with Ghisallo plus Sormano

 

[MatParker117]

Breakout year for him, I assume we'll see him next in Oman.

 

[staubsauger]

Probably depends on whether Froome starts with Ruta del Sol or T-A!

Algarve + P-N normally should be Thomas turn.

Landa's first season goal should be Basque Country.

 

[staubsauger]

Michele Ferrari states on 52x12 that Landa holds the record time on the Colle delle Finestre as he topped the Di Luca - Simoni - Rujano time of 27.20 by 45 seconds!?

On climbing records Rujano is listed with a record time of 1:02.09!

Who is right!?

 

[pastronef]

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Probably depends on whether Froome starts with Ruta del Sol or T-A!

Algarve + P-N normally should be Thomas turn.

Landa's first season goal should be Basque Country.

Landa will surely ride Tirreno, since Froome will go Aso and rice Paris-Nice now that Richie is not there anymore

 

[jens_attacks]

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Michele Ferrari states on 52x12 that Landa holds the record time on the Colle delle Finestre as he topped the Di Luca - Simoni - Rujano time of 27.20 by 45 seconds!?

On climbing records Rujano is listed with a record time of 1:02.09!

Who is right!?

Most of mito"s ascent times are wrong. Trust him only in his domain...
Of course in this case, he only timed a section of the climb so he might be right about that...

 

[MatParker117]

Might do the tour as the spanish national coach apparently won't select riders who skip it and he wants to go to Rio. The pace he sets on climbs would deal out nothing but pain to Froome's rivals.

 

[staubsauger]

If he peaks for T-A, Basque, Giro and still does the Tour afterwards, he would be dead meat anyway.

Better to use the shape for Suisse or rest and rebuild for the Vuelta.

 

[staubsauger]

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Michele Ferrari states on 52x12 that Landa holds the record time on the Colle delle Finestre as he topped the Di Luca - Simoni - Rujano time of 27.20 by 45 seconds!?

On climbing records Rujano is listed with a record time of 1:02.09!

Who is right!?

Most of mito"s ascent times are wrong. Trust him only in his domain...
Of course in this case, he only timed a section of the climb so he might be right about that...

Yeah. Maybe he only timed the gravel part!? Which would still surprise me as Di Luca simply killed it there back in 2005!

 

[Matteo.]

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staubsauger[/url]"]If he peaks for T-A, Basque, Giro and still does the Tour afterwards, he would be dead meat anyway.

Better to use the shape for Suisse or rest and rebuild for the Vuelta.

I don't think he'll peak for TA ecc . He 'll ride like Burgos .
Only Trentino and Giro he'll in top shape

 

[yaco]

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Might do the tour as the spanish national coach apparently won't select riders who skip it and he wants to go to Rio. The pace he sets on climbs would deal out nothing but pain to Froome's rivals.

Yet another reason why the Olympics has undue influence on the Pro Tour.