I think Pogacar has bigger chances to win MSR than MvdP would in Lombardia, even if the entire UAE team including Pogacar would work for him
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Translation from a recent feltet.dk article:
"It is rare that Pedersen starts in a one-day-race where he is not among the biggest favorites.
But for Saturday's marathon classic, he is lowering expectations slightly. It's first and foremost about being back in the peloton, according to Pedersen.
- It's been six months without cycling. I had half a race day, and that doesn't really count. I have to get back into the racing rhythm again. I have to start somewhere. This (Milano-Sanremo, ed.) fit in really well.
- You know me, I race to win. But you have to adjust your expectations every now and then. And this is one of those times you have to adjust a little. But I'm not going to bed tonight without the belief in a good result tomorrow."
On a more funny note, Mathias Norsgaard said jokingly in his podcast that Mads was beating the **** out of him with Pedersen riding a gravel bike (with 40mm tires and 1,5 bar tire pressure). So I guess all the hours on the trainer have been a pretty decent substitute.
Pogacar has more chances of winning MSR than MVP winning LBL.
Sometimes people forget Pogacar is the second favorite to win MSR (and by far acoording bookies).
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Del Toro has to light it up on the Cipressa for Pog to win.
PS. Get back to me if I am wrong after.
PS. Get back to me if I am wrong after.
I agree but Lombardia was mentioned so I kept that
I mentioned LBL because it's easier. In Lombardy, there are 40 riders more capable of winning that race.
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Still hard to see MVDP being defeated.
Pogi and UAE to try again similar to last year and hope MVDP isn't quite as good.
Not everything was perfect for UAE last year. UAE were not at the front at the base of Cipressa - Del Toro needs to be prominent pulling for Pogi and not have any rivals polluting the wheels at the front. UAE and Pog will need to do everything right else MVDP will win again. Sounds like the wildcard could be Pedersen?
Not sure what kind of gap Pog would need to have after Poggio to feel safe?
Pogi and UAE to try again similar to last year and hope MVDP isn't quite as good.
Not everything was perfect for UAE last year. UAE were not at the front at the base of Cipressa - Del Toro needs to be prominent pulling for Pogi and not have any rivals polluting the wheels at the front. UAE and Pog will need to do everything right else MVDP will win again. Sounds like the wildcard could be Pedersen?
Not sure what kind of gap Pog would need to have after Poggio to feel safe?
I like Mads Pedersen but maybe, just maybe, not being fully fit will be a blessing as it will force him to be smarter and more tactical instead of trying to brute force it or prove himself by working turns with the aliens.
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Cross/head on Cipressa, headwind before the Poggio, and crosswind on the Poggio.
The only positive thing there is to say for Cipressa is that the most important launching section will have more crosswind than headwind.
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Would love to see him in the mix. But he’ll be better suited for the cobbled classics, no?Valgren saying he thinks he has the shape to podium (which also indicates EF is riding for him).
It's been a long time since we've heard that kind of talk from him.
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He's more of an all-rounder.
He can do cobbles but prefers if there are gradients to deal with.
His previous biggest wins were Amstel, Omloop and Coppa Sabatini.
He also hit the podium in the Leuwen Worlds that Alaphillippe won and took 4th in Ronde.
Thanks -- yeah I was thinking E3 and Ronde would suit him best. But of course those are also likely to be dominated by the two giants (not sure if Pog is doing E3?).
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And noone sees the off-chance of Pogi "allowing" Del Torro to attack first on Poggio to force his competition to react as possible? Maybe it's a way for UAE to win despite the unfavorable wind conditions.
I don't think Van Der Poel will just let Del Torro slide away, though.
UAE are likely to have two out of the four (perhaps five, am not sure about Ganna) strongest riders on Poggio tomorrow.
I don't think Van Der Poel will just let Del Torro slide away, though.
UAE are likely to have two out of the four (perhaps five, am not sure about Ganna) strongest riders on Poggio tomorrow.
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Everybody sees the off chance. It's been mentioned and discussed multiple times in this thread.
Mathieu won't take the bait: Pog wants to win this one himself and everybody knows that.
But a Del Toro attack on Cipressa doesn’t mean he’s off solo, as there are other riders besides MVDP he can stay with Del Toro on a gradient like this. He’s not Pogacar.
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Agreed. And while it's obviously unlikely to happen, this might actually be the one scenario where both Mathieu and Pog fall beside the podium.
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