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So Nizzolo finished 18th despite crashing on the Poggio descent and suffering a mior fracture in his wrist that will probably force him to miss the cobbled classics.
Source: https://www.tuttobiciweb.it/article/2022/03/21/1647878988/caduta-nizzolo-frattura-del-polso
Source: https://www.tuttobiciweb.it/article/2022/03/21/1647878988/caduta-nizzolo-frattura-del-polso
- Jan 31, 2016
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As Rick noted; he's always had ups/downs in a season buildup. He is relatively underraced and rode a cobble race 48 hours before this. Hardly a buildup for a focal point effort and still he was at the front swinging. Not many riders can do that or attempted to do that this year.
hope so. again just a feeling i have. probably wrong for the reasons everyone has pointed out.
Max kudos to Mohoric, but I don't think bike races should be decided by who is most willing to risk their life on descents. Nor should they be determined by errant or biased motorbikes offering up a powerful draft.
The strongest riders in MSR were MVDP, Pog, and insanely Turgis.
The strongest riders in MSR were MVDP, Pog, and insanely Turgis.
And if it would be lets say Nibali. Would you still claim the same? Or it would be OK then?
One could argue Søren Kragh, Pedersen was the strongest as well. I mean this is cycling, descending is part of it. Obviously he had the abilities to take the risks and that's part of the charm of San Remo. Therefore, the best rider won. The others weren't able to follow him.
For the motocycle it is annoying obviously, but Mohoric showed his descending abilities and would be an idiot to not take the draft for the km. Doesn't take anything away from his win in my book.
Do you have a quote to back that? For you to complain after some race Nibali shouldn't have won like that. That is to drop everybody else on the descend.
If you have one then OK and fair point. If you don't then point being and hopefully after reading what i wrote you will realize that your point of view is a rather moot one. Saying a bike race should in general not be won on a descend. IMHO there was always some prestige involved in doing it like that. Cyclists that can do that are in general praised for being able to do that.
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I think his descent was a work of art and a completely fine way to win a monument.
I didn't really like him that much before, especially as he excels in the one thing I hate the most in cycling - the long solo - but I read a very flattering article about him in the ProCycling magazine by Kate Wagner who portrayed him as a very thoughtful, talkative and intelligent person. I also think the scenes after the finish were quite lovely when most of the main protaginists (MVDP, Tadej, Wout and Mads Pedersen) all seemed quite happy that he was the one who had won.
By the way, does anybody know who it was that crashed going up the Poggio at 7.5 to go?
I didn't really like him that much before, especially as he excels in the one thing I hate the most in cycling - the long solo - but I read a very flattering article about him in the ProCycling magazine by Kate Wagner who portrayed him as a very thoughtful, talkative and intelligent person. I also think the scenes after the finish were quite lovely when most of the main protaginists (MVDP, Tadej, Wout and Mads Pedersen) all seemed quite happy that he was the one who had won.
By the way, does anybody know who it was that crashed going up the Poggio at 7.5 to go?
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So the Best rider willing to attack and take risks doesn't deserve to win in your opinion? Hey stay in that train boys and don't ride to win. I Totally Disagree.
And if you want the moto draft you HAVE to be in front, that's where everyone gets it, especially going downhill. If anything the moto bike held him back!
Last but not least lets not forget it was not only the descend. Mohorič had to be there on Poggio. And after the descend he had to push those pedals. The main reason he wears a Slovenian national champion jersey is exactly because of that. He is the best Slovenian on such terrains.
I'm all for strong attacking riders winning with a combination of watts, tactics, and teammates.
Mohoric is a top rider and deserves his Monument.
But I'm not for human beings cheating death on a bicycle or drafting off of a motorcycle to win.
I don't understand wanting athletes to literally risk their lives to win bike races. The sport is dangerous enough as it is and we are robbed of some great racing because of crashes and the risk of them. Roglic for example in most of his French races (he even skipped the Dauphine last year so he didn't crash... and then got body-checked out of the Grand Boucle which made the race a victory lap for the other Slovenian. A great tragedy for the sport).
The last thing we as fans need is for riders to start taking even more risks on descents.
Mohoric is a top rider and deserves his Monument.
But I'm not for human beings cheating death on a bicycle or drafting off of a motorcycle to win.
I don't understand wanting athletes to literally risk their lives to win bike races. The sport is dangerous enough as it is and we are robbed of some great racing because of crashes and the risk of them. Roglic for example in most of his French races (he even skipped the Dauphine last year so he didn't crash... and then got body-checked out of the Grand Boucle which made the race a victory lap for the other Slovenian. A great tragedy for the sport).
The last thing we as fans need is for riders to start taking even more risks on descents.
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Why do you think he would have died if he had crashed? People really exaggerate this. On such a twisty, curvy descent, you don't die if you crash, come on.
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Cosnefroy, if this is the crash you mean. Cortina doesn't sound too happy about him
View: https://twitter.com/Flopigeon/status/1505882759922864129
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Personally, I get less nervous seeing a guy like Mohoric take risks on descents, than I do seeing a guy like Reichenbach go carefully down descents.
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Cosnefroy, if this is the crash you mean. Cortina doesn't sound too happy about him
View: https://twitter.com/Flopigeon/status/1505882759922864129
Thanks. And then Nizzolo crashed on the descent where Valgren suffered a mechanical problem. All incidents at the very edge of the screen. I don't think the producers saw either.
- Nov 16, 2013
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What about when Mohoric makes somersaults with his head touching the concrete?
It's actually amazing how that crash hasn't diminished his descending ability.
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It was scary when it happened, but luckily he hasn't made a habit out of stuff like that.
- Sep 2, 2011
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It's not Cortina shouting at him. It's Lorenzo Rota.Cosnefroy, if this is the crash you mean. Cortina doesn't sound too happy about him
View: https://twitter.com/Flopigeon/status/1505882759922864129
Vaffanculo coglione
- Nov 16, 2013
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I'm sure he did it to pester Rota specifically.
Also, Albanese best Italian in MSR? I didn't see that coming.
- Sep 2, 2011
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Well I wouldn't expect someone who's pushing a million watts on the Poggio after being on the bike for 7 hours to assess the situation in a completely rational way but yeah it was a bit uncalled for. Must be noted though that Rota lost the chance to fight for the win at San Sebastian last year because somebody else crashed in front of him. He's had some bad luck.
On Albanese, I did a podcast with a friend of mine on Saturday morning and we were talking about Italian riders who could do well. I mentioned the usual suspects and he said: look out for Albanese!
- Nov 16, 2013
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In 2017, on another board, there was a game where we had to mention 9 riders from 1994 or later, who we thought had the brightest futures. I was the only one to pick Wout and Mathieu who had done nothing on the road yet, and then Bernal, Superman, Gaviria, Benoot, Moscon another rider I don't recall and finally, Albanese. I remember specifically to have seen past Ewan because I thought he was too one-dimensional...
So far, Albanese didn't quite live up to that but the last year he has definitely been improving.
- Nov 16, 2013
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Actually, it was Rota who crashed because some technically hopeless dude called Mohoric went to wide in a bend just in front of him (without crashing).
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