- Jan 31, 2016
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- Apr 3, 2009
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He probably didn't have 280 k in his legs in the training ride...
- Jul 29, 2023
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He was saying something in his radio as his support was trying to put it all back together at the bottom of the cipressa. And I’m sure it wasn’t see you at the line. Del toro watt bombed to get back on and looked like the only one to do so. I feel like hirschl and ulissi were missing and likely of significant consequence and responsible for the poor position?
- Sep 12, 2022
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- Jul 10, 2012
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On the descent of the Poggio pidcock caught MVDP/Pog quickly but got stuck behind MVDP (crazy to say but it seems piddles is better even than MVDP downhill on pavement). Would have been interesting to see pidcock get a clear run at the descent...
- Sep 12, 2022
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Pidcock found a way to slip by MVDP towards the bottom of the descent when MVDP grabbed a bit of extra brake through a chicane. At the top, piddles closed the gap ahead of him faster than MVDP did. And when pidcock was behind Pog, zero daylight opened through the corners, unlike when MVDP was following.
We don't know for sure what would have happened if Pidcock led the descent and MVDP were forced to follow which is why I said it would be interesting. At the very least it seems those two would have a gap to the rest.
- Apr 3, 2009
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He lost his glasses in the sprint which was part of his bobble. That small factor probably meant the difference due to the narrow margin of victory. Sometimes *** happens.
- Sep 12, 2022
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Yeah I agree, if Pidcock would’ve started the descent I wouldn’t be surprised if they finished with the three of them.
- Jun 6, 2017
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Van Der Poel was holding back on the descent, it was evident. When Pidcock passed him, literally few seconds before that, Mathieu turned back and said something to him. I guess he said him to pass and opened the space.
Pidcock is maybe a better decender, but yesterday was not good example.
- Feb 20, 2012
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Van Gils uploaded his power data on Strava, he finished group one.
Cipressa was 6 W/kg in the draft, which is an absolute nothingburger for a climber for 9.5 minutes at sea level. Bigger guys will also be lower because it's such a rolling climb.
Poggio is 6.8 for under 6 minutes, which is again "easy" in terms of climbing numbers. He did around 8 W/kg for 1 minute in the final km of the Poggio, which is again not the highest numbers.
I think they're interesting to show how 'low' the numbers can be in the first group and how badly the deck is stacked against riders trying to get away
Cipressa was 6 W/kg in the draft, which is an absolute nothingburger for a climber for 9.5 minutes at sea level. Bigger guys will also be lower because it's such a rolling climb.
Poggio is 6.8 for under 6 minutes, which is again "easy" in terms of climbing numbers. He did around 8 W/kg for 1 minute in the final km of the Poggio, which is again not the highest numbers.
I think they're interesting to show how 'low' the numbers can be in the first group and how badly the deck is stacked against riders trying to get away
- Apr 8, 2023
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I think people are missing how well Alpecin played it, Dillier pulled all day, MVDP kept Pogacar on a leash and Philipsen followed it off. Sounds simple, but not easy to do.
- May 5, 2010
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Not sure if this was already posted, but Bahrain had an interesting lead-in to the race.
www.cyclingnews.com
Sonny Colbrelli helped foil attempt to steal Bahrain Victorious' bikes ahead of Milan-San Remo
2022 winner Matej Mohorič eschews dropper post to take advantage of Merida aero frame
www.cyclingnews.com
Can we talk about the biggest travesty of yesteday... where was the phone booth at the end of Poggio?
How could you remove it.
What has the world come to.
How could you remove it.
What has the world come to.
- Feb 24, 2015
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Yes, precisely that. It was very obvious that MVDP didn't go full gas on the Poggio descent. He also left some space while descending Cipressa to have space if someone messed up (which they did on C).
On Strava Sobrero and Mohoric set new Strava KOM on the Poggio descent with 3:09 and 57,3 km/h. In addition Stuyven, Bettiol and Philipsen were only 3 seconds slower at 3:12 (56,7 km/h).
Pog, MVDP and Pidcock's times are missing but only Piddles couldv'e gone faster than Mohoric and Sobrero and if so not by very much.
Ps, I couldn't find Mohoric's time from 2022 when he was flying like a daredevil. Potentially that was even faster?
Slavique Nuke
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Interesting! In 2022, Mohoric’s ride seemed crazy. Now almost all went substantially faster…Pog's time is not missing, it was 3:14. In 2022 Mohoric's time was 3:30.
- Jul 28, 2010
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MVDP said in the post race interview that he had to dig very deep for Pogacar's second attack and wasn't able to take turns on the decent. So not really holding back but rather being on the limit.
Pogacar could have won if it wasn't for MVDP I think. No one else bothered to respond. Same for Mohoric, he also could have won if not for Mathieu reeling him back in.
Armchair Cyclist
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- Mar 22, 2010
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4 minor, but unaddressed, issues from yesterday:
1) Was there ever an explanation of why Gemani dropped out of the breakaway? Kung couldn't cope without him? Rest of the break thought they wouldn't be given a chance with such a big threat up the road and bullied him into dropping?
2) Should RCS/RAI not hire somebody who actually speaks English to translate their tourist information at the bottom of the screen: they used a trained and very old fashioned tone.
3) How decisive was Pidcock's relieving himself at 17km to go?
4) Has any rider ever received such a disproportionate number of commentary mentions to impact on race as Luke Plapp? Was the TV producer a family member?
1) Was there ever an explanation of why Gemani dropped out of the breakaway? Kung couldn't cope without him? Rest of the break thought they wouldn't be given a chance with such a big threat up the road and bullied him into dropping?
2) Should RCS/RAI not hire somebody who actually speaks English to translate their tourist information at the bottom of the screen: they used a trained and very old fashioned tone.
3) How decisive was Pidcock's relieving himself at 17km to go?
4) Has any rider ever received such a disproportionate number of commentary mentions to impact on race as Luke Plapp? Was the TV producer a family member?
- May 5, 2010
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I think the theory the Danish commentators had was that he simply thought it would be hopeless to be in a break with such a short gap.
Armchair Cyclist
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As opposed the the well founded hope that the breakaway has had in this race every other year?
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