Milano - Sanremo 2025, one day monument, March 22

[Peyroteo94]

If MVP rides again for Philipsen, he should quit from cycling

 

[Sciatic]

I would say, Pidcock is much better this year.

Better at descending? As for the rest he does look good this year, but not good enough to drop Pogacar (and probably not MVDP) going up the Poggio. So he won't have a gap going over the top, and can't create a gap (on MVDP anyways) on the descent. So that leaves trying to attack on the flat and hope others hesistate, just as Stuven did above.

 

[Red Rick]

Pidcock is an amazing technical descender. Poggio descent is way too slow and nontechnical for him.

 

[Berniece]

If MVP rides again for Philipsen, he should quit from cycling

Stop re-writing history, he didn’t ride for Philipsen until after the descent, and guess what, Philipsen was already in their group then because Pogacar descended like ***.

 

[Salvarani]

If MVP rides again for Philipsen, he should quit from cycling

Exactly. He is a great rider that should not ride for others.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Stop re-writing history, he didn’t ride for Philipsen until after the descent, and guess what, Philipsen was already in their group then because Pogacar descended like ***.

Philipsen even thanked him for not riding away with Pog, otherwise it would have been a 1-2 battle.

 

[Brullnux]

If MVP rides again for Philipsen, he should quit from cycling

Pogacar fans when the team leader decides to help his teammate achieve a goal in a race he's already won, rather than sprint for a sixth stage win in some random one week stage race:

 

[Gigs_98]

Exactly. He is a great rider that should not ride for others.

I also think the rivals of my favorite rider should have tactics that favor my favorite rider.

 

[YavorD]

Exactly. He is a great rider that should not ride for others.

Duh, great riders work for others as well.

 

[Berniece]

Philipsen even thanked him for not riding away with Pog, otherwise it would have been a 1-2 battle.

Ride away where? In the descent? Because after the descent Philipsen was in the same group

 

[QueenStagiaire]

If MVP rides again for Philipsen, he should quit from cycling

I see you‘re new to cycling, it‘s basically a mix of individual and team sports. The riders do all get an individual result, but they ride for different teams enabling unique tactics.

 

[Lequack]

Unlike in cyclocross, where there also ride for teams, but mostly for themselves.

 

[Sciatic]

I also think the rivals of my favorite rider should have tactics that favor my favorite rider.

Now you've hit on a sensible approach!

 

[scribers]

Ride away where? In the descent? Because after the descent Philipsen was in the same group

You might want to go watch it again as mvp was covering attacks while philipsen sat in with guys he could outsprint

 

[Salvarani]

I also think the rivals of my favorite rider should have tactics that favor my favorite rider.

Nice to have a Philipsen-fan with us! Great for him if they ride for him again.

 

[Pantani_lives]

My least favorite of the five monuments, because the final only lasts fifteen minutes, and because the strongest rider usually doesn't win.

• In 1999 Pantani dropped Bartoli and everyone else on the Cipressa, but he was reeled in by Telekom on the flat. After the Poggio there weren't enough helpers left to control Tchmil.
• Cancellara won it once, but after that there were four more podium places behind some second-rate sprinter.
• Sagan was born to win this race, but ended up with two second and five fourth places. Stress, high expectations and being targeted kept him from winning.
• It's the monument that Gilbert couldn't win. Also guys like Argentin, Bartoli, Vanderaerden, Museeuw and Boonen have never won it.
• Pogacar will probably never win it, because he's always hyped as the favorite, everyone targets him, and the Poggio just isn't steep enough.

So it has a big lottery factor. Tactics, descending skills and luck play a big role. It has the shortest and most nervous final, with the least predictable outcome. That's also what makes it exciting.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

My least favorite of the five monuments, because the final only lasts fifteen minutes, and because the strongest rider usually doesn't win.

• In 1999 Pantani dropped Bartoli and everyone else on the Cipressa, but he was reeled in by Telekom on the flat. After the Poggio there weren't enough helpers left to control Tchmil.
• Cancellara won it once, but after that there were four more podium places behind some second-rate sprinter.
• Sagan was born to win this race, but ended up with two second and five fourth places. Stress, high expectations and being targeted kept him from winning.
• It's the monument that Gilbert couldn't win. Also guys like Argentin, Bartoli, Vanderaerden, Museeuw and Boonen have never won it.
• Pogacar will probably never win it, because he's always hyped as the favorite, everyone targets him, and the Poggio just isn't steep enough.

So it has a big lottery factor. Tactics, descending skills and luck play a big role. It has the shortest and most nervous final, with the least predictable outcome. That's also what makes it exciting.

Good read. UAE is rich so they should buy MVP, Philipsen, Ganna and a few more to help Teddy finally win it!

 

[Berniece]

You might want to go watch it again as mvp was covering attacks while philipsen sat in with guys he could outsprint

I rewatched it a couple of days ago, but to be 100% sure, I rewatched it again. My opinion was that MVDP followed Pogi's attack, and then the descent started in which Pogacar took the lead. Eventually everyone comes back right before the descent is over, and Mohoric attacks. Since Philipsen is already back then, and there are only flat sections left, MVDP decided to ride for one of the best sprinters in the peloton which is also his teammate. I don't see in which part MVDP should've ridden for himself.

 

[dazaau]

I rewatched it a couple of days ago, but to be 100% sure, I rewatched it again. My opinion was that MVDP followed Pogi's attack, and then the descent started in which Pogacar took the lead. Eventually everyone comes back right before the descent is over, and Mohoric attacks. Since Philipsen is already back then, and there are only flat sections left, MVDP decided to ride for one of the best sprinters in the peloton which is also his teammate. I don't see in which part MVDP should've ridden for himself.

He was sand bagging the descent, I feel if he wanted to go hard he could have kept the group from rejoining and him and Tadej would be hard to bring back on the flat. But then there would be no time to mess about for the finish so I guess he and the team decided to ride for Jasper - which honestly very very very nearly blew up in their faces given Matthews was awfully close and if he had ridden like his mate Jasper usually does Matthews could have just shut the door and taken the win.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

My least favorite of the five monuments, because the final only lasts fifteen minutes, and because the strongest rider usually doesn't win.

Imagine having watched the past few years of this sport and your takeaway being that the strongest rider doesn't win often enough...

Also, there wasn't a single edition where Sagan was clearly the strongest rider and there also hasn't been a single edition where Pogacar was clearly the strongest rider.

 

[SafeBet]

I mantain that Pog's best shot at a win here is going solo from Cipressa. As Trentin told me last year: "if he does a sub 9 minute time on Cipressa he's gonna be alone at the top".
The trickiest part is having at least 3 teammates in front of him at the bottom. 4 would be optimal but extremely difficult.
None of the UAE rider should hit the front until the Capi are over. They tried taking control of the race from the Capi last year and failed.

 

[dazaau]

I mantain that Pog's best shot at a win here is going solo from Cipressa. As Trentin told me last year: "if he does a sub 9 minute time on Cipressa he's gonna be alone at the top".
The trickiest part is having at least 3 teammates in front of him at the bottom. 4 would be optimal but extremely difficult.
None of the UAE rider should hit the front until the Capi are over. They tried taking control of the race from the Capi last year and failed.

Seems unlikely the peloton is just going to let half of the uae team up the road...

 

[Mayomaniac]

I mantain that Pog's best shot at a win here is going solo from Cipressa. As Trentin told me last year: "if he does a sub 9 minute time on Cipressa he's gonna be alone at the top".
The trickiest part is having at least 3 teammates in front of him at the bottom. 4 would be optimal but extremely difficult.
None of the UAE rider should hit the front until the Capi are over. They tried taking control of the race from the Capi last year and failed.

According to himself in La Gazzetta today a sub 9min Cipressa is the plan.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

It shouldn't be completely unrealistic to have two Italians on the podium. Gotta be some years ago where that happened when the winner is one of them.

 

[Peyroteo94]

If they want to climb Cipressa under 9 minutes, Pogacar will attack there. It isn't possible to break the record by 20 seconds without going all out