Moderation

[Cookster15]

Silly question (dare I ask): Do the forum rules also apply to private messages?

 

[Bonimenier]

Silly question (dare I ask): Do the forum rules also apply to private messages?

You can report private messages, so you have to pick carefully who to insult that way.

 

[Extinction]

So now both @Logic-is-your-friend and @Extinction are banned as well. This is really getting kind of distracting to discussion.

I can only say that if a little devious irony is taken for trolling, without personal insult or mockery, but was completely pertinent to the discussion at hand, then we've moved from taking action to ensure a civil discussion to censorship and persecution. I think the mods folk here should do a little soul searching and be careful not to become thought police.

 

[RedheadDane]

Great to see people have started to come back.
Because, after all; surely no member of this forum actually wants people to be banned.

 

[Potomac]

Great to see people have started to come back.
Because, after all; surely no member of this forum actually wants people to be banned.

I only have short list of people. Actually, I would be happy if they were only banned from certain threads.

 

[BR2]

Great to see people have started to come back.
Because, after all; surely no member of this forum actually wants people to be banned.

Oh, not everyone is that nice and sweet, I'd love to have some members banned...

 

[RedheadDane]

Oh, not everyone is that nice and sweet, I'd love to have some members banned...

Even Mr. "Bans Should Never Be Questioned" occasionally has something clever to say.

 

[Bonimenier]

Great to see people have started to come back.
Because, after all; surely no member of this forum actually wants people to be banned.

I've been reporting your posts for ages now. No luck so far

 

[Samu Cuenca]

I've been reporting your posts for ages now. No luck so far

Maybe RhD has been the lead mod all along.

 

[RedheadDane]

I've been reporting your posts for ages now. No luck so far

I'm actually quite surprised by that.
Pretty sure I have broken a few rules - there are just so many it's hard to keep track of - and as mentioned multiple times; some of the admins seem to use the "Rule was broken" = BAN method.

 

[BR2]

I don't want people to get banned for individual posts where they crossed a line without mean intent. I would want people banned for general trolling, people who are constantly and deliberately putting other members or riders down. But usually they take care to act within the rules by the letter in their specific posts, so reporting them makes no sense anyway. I have hardly reported anyone. In the beginning I did, but then I realized nothing would happen.

 

[RedheadDane]

I have hardly reported anyone. In the beginning I did, but then I realized nothing would happen.

I report spammers. And I will say the people in charge are quite good at taking care of that.

 

[Netserk]

putting other members or riders down

Uh, it's quite different to post hostile remarks about fellow users of the forum and to express displease about riders, who are the explicit subject of many threads. And thankfully the rules of this site also make a distinction between the two.

 

[red_flanders]

I have hardly reported anyone.

Interestingly the point is to report (or politely address) behavior, not people. That mental shift will help deciding what to report (or not) and generally leads to a better forum.

 

[BR2]

Interestingly the point is to report (or politely address) behavior, not people. That mental shift will help deciding what to report (or not) and generally leads to a better forum.

There is behaviour that is meant to bring others down, extremely condescending, disrespectful and provocative behaviour and things like pretending to just make statements about a general subject when it's actually an insult aimed at a certain poster (or rider), behaviour that will not be banned if I report it, because no outright insults with vulgar words were made - and this behaviour comes from the same posters again and again. I want to shy away from the overused word toxic, but I think it's very close to what toxic behaviour actually means.

 

[King Boonen]

walking the fine line between what is tolerated and what isn't on internet forums is a game as old as internet forums themselves.

 

[red_flanders]

There is behaviour that is meant to bring others down, extremely condescending, disrespectful and provocative behaviour and things like pretending to just make statements about a general subject when it's actually an insult aimed at a certain poster (or rider), behaviour that will not be banned if I report it, because no outright insults with vulgar words were made - and this behaviour comes from the same posters again and again. I want to shy away from the overused word toxic, but I think it's very close to what toxic behaviour actually means.

I hear you, and that does occasionally occur, to be sure. But I think always good to check and see, even in those cases, if we're reacting to the poster or the behavior. I'm not perfect about this either, but "play the ball, not the man" should always be a gut check when replying to posts, or in cases where the behavior is totally out of bounds, reporting posts. More of a general comment than anything specifically about you. Cheers.

 

[jmdirt]

Interestingly the point is to report (or politely address) behavior, not people. That mental shift will help deciding what to report (or not) and generally leads to a better forum.

Or peoples' behavior?

 

[Lequack]

And now it's @Extinction turn. He must've insulted Remco or something, that's not allowed.

 

[RedheadDane]

And now it's @Extinction turn. He must've insulted Remco or something, that's not allowed.

Him and Elos Anjos, both.
Apparently, things get a bit heated between them... quite a shame, coz it's rather entertaining.

 

[Lequack]

This is just getting silly though.

 

[Bonimenier]

Extinction and Elos Anjos are secretly married. Always fighting and then going on a make up holiday.

 

[RedheadDane]

This is just getting silly though.

Yeah, but what can we do?
Apparently, they were getting pretty close to the edge of reason. Hence why I think it would be great if they could just get their own little corner to fight in.

 

[Netserk]

Hence why I think it would be great if they could just get their own little corner to fight in.

That corner is called twitter. No one is stopping them there.

 

[RedheadDane]

That corner is called twitter. No one is stopping them there.

Do you know that they're on Twitter?