Moderation

[RedheadDane]

I would like to praise @Red Rick for his way of dealing with the drama in the CUL thread.
Just deleting the offensive posts, with no banning.

 

[Netserk]

I would like to praise @Red Rick for his way of dealing with the drama in the CUL thread.
Just deleting the offensive posts, with no banning.

It’s noted that any mention of toxic masculinity is banned on the forum.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Another topic: I think the rules are very strict when it comes to talking about rider's looks, but in comparison talking about their weight seems underregulated. Although that is more performance-related, I think it is a much bigger issue. All this "he needs to lose x kilos" etc. is really promoting more and more weight loss. In a sport where eating disorders are so common I think the awareness for how dangerous this is and how many riders, pro and hobby, already suffer from anorexia and bulimia, should be raised much more.
I know this is not in the rules, yet, but it should be thought about. It doesn't need to be punished with an immediate ban, but I would appreciate a mod stepping in.

I haven't seen the thread that this arises from, though other comments allow me to make a confident guess.

But I really think that if there is any discussion of a rider's weight that is going to be influential on their nutritional habits it is the discussion between a rider and their team manager/coach, not a few dozen punters on a forum that they almost certainly never look at.

We don't need rules that suggest that this is a place of great influence and authority, and therefore that carries heavy responsibility: we really are not.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Are w/kg - and the estimates uderpinning them - not to be talked about anymore?

 

[RedheadDane]

We don't need rules that suggest that this is a place of great influence and authority, and therefore that carries heavy responsibility: we really are not.

I'm sure the mods would be able to differentiate between regular discussions about weight - some that might even have arised from the riders' own comments - and problematic comments.

 

[Lequack]

So much banning lately. Just in the Flanders thread i've noticed @Salvarani and @vwpe getting banned as well. Jeez.

 

[Lequack]

And now we wait (for Logic), again.

And now we wait (for Salvarani ).

 

[fmk_RoI]

I can't believe how much has changed in just a few weeks. Then, you broke the rules and it was pages and pages and pages of complaining about the injustice of justice, now, no one gives a damn about these miscreants, they can rot in the virtual sin bin for all anyone cares.

 

[RedheadDane]

I can't believe how much has changed in just a few weeks. Then, you broke the rules and it was pages and pages and pages of complaining about the injustice of justice, now, no one gives a damn about these miscreants, they can rot in the virtual sin bin for all anyone cares.

Because you'd always come in with your "Well... if they got banned they probably did something vevvy bad and we should always listen to the admins because they despite not actually being members of this forum totally knows what they're doing and rules right are always right and should never be questioned even if they're as stupid as riders not being allowed to give bottles to fans during races."
Gets really tiresome in the end. I guess we just accepted that the admins will never accept that simple information is a good idea.
Of course, some of us actually did find out why logic was banning; would you guess... it was because of an admin who completely misunderstood a perfectly fine post.

It is striking that a mod (Red Rick) was able to deal with a rather serious situation (the whole sexism talk in the Uttrup thread) without banning anyone, whereas as soon as the admins gets involved, it's straight to the banning.

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

Has banning Logic become the forum's new sport?

 

[fmk_RoI]

And I've only just packed my "Free the Logical One" banner in the attic. He can eff off if he thinks I'm going up there to get it down again. Spiders. Ick.

 

[RedheadDane]

Has banning Logic become the forum's new sport?

Probably just an Admin misunderstanding a post. Or maybe they don't know that they can just delete supposedly offensive posts, without needing to ban anyone.

 

[Netserk]

Probably just an Admin misunderstanding a post. Or maybe they don't know that they can just delete supposedly offensive posts, without needing to ban anyone.

Did you read the post that has now been deleted?

 

[RedheadDane]

Did you read the post that has now been deleted?

No, but their statistics haven't been great.

 

[Netserk]

No, but their statistics haven't been great.

So you have no clue about anything relating specifically to this incident, yet your judgement is ready?

 

[RedheadDane]

So you have no clue about anything relating specifically to this incident, yet your judgement is ready?

Guess that's what happens when there has been too much precedent of unnecessary bans...

So, what did he write that was supposedly so bad?

Edit: I mean... it's possible I did see the post, but - you know - just didn't find it offensive.

 

[Lequack]

Probably just an Admin misunderstanding a post. Or maybe they don't know that they can just delete supposedly offensive posts, without needing to ban anyone.

I also think it's a bit much. Just delete the offensive post and be done with it. If the person continues to be offensive then sure, ban them.

 

[fmk_RoI]

If the person continues to be offensive then sure, ban them.

The repetitive nature of LIYF's bans suggest you might be on to something there, even if unintentionally.

 

[RedheadDane]

The repetitive nature of LIYF's bans suggest you might be on to something there, even if unintentionally.

You are aware it was revealed why he was banned the last time, right?
Basically an Admin misunderstood a post that anyone with the ability to read would understand was not actually accusing a rider of doping.

But, oh well... let's just hope he's back in time for the Giro.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Do keep up RHD. That was not the last time.

 

[RedheadDane]

Do keep up RHD. That was not the last time.

I sure haven't noticed him being banned between that incident and the current one. (The previous one being at the end of March.)

But my point still stands; Admins ban entirely too much.
They should stick to just dealing with spammers, and let the Mods (who are actual forum members) deal with other stuff.
Might that mean that some problematic posts will be allowed to remain?
Probably.
Is that better than banning people left and right?
Absolutely!

 

[fmk_RoI]

It's like a CD you spilled marmalade on but still put in the machine.

 

[Netserk]

It's like a CD you spilled marmalade on but still put in the machine.

What is jeopardy!

 

[RedheadDane]

It's like a CD you spilled marmalade on but still put in the machine.

The way the Admins deal with things? Yeah...

 

[tobydawq]

Did you read the post that has now been deleted?

Are you referring to something specific? He says he hasn't got any posts deleted.