Moderation

[Armchair Cyclist]

Voluntary cool off, I didnt want Armchair to get *** for it, so I decided to post here but then I bottled it by trying to be cryptic and funny about it.

I did give a thumbs up to Netserk's correct guess about that, as the nearest I felt I could come to publicly confirming detail of a moderator action.

 

[RedheadDane]

Voluntary cool off, I didnt want Armchair to get *** for it, so I decided to post here but then I bottled it by trying to be cryptic and funny about it.

So, you knew you needed a cool off, but you also knew you probably wouldn't be able to resist the temptation to log in anyway?

 

[SHAD0W93]

So, you knew you needed a cool off, but you also knew you probably wouldn't be able to resist the temptation to log in anyway?

Can’t hate on someone who knows how to cut themselves off and the temptation. Red Rick found his enabler (themselve) and won.

 

[topcat]

Voluntary cool off, I didnt want Armchair to get *** for it, so I decided to post here but then I bottled it by trying to be cryptic and funny about it.

Was it the Liege thread that pushed you over the edge?
Welcome back!
We've lost all the DNP's and we can't afford to lose you.

 

[red_flanders]

Wow, DNP is a big loss. Sorry to see that.

 

[Gigs_98]

That Red Rick kid is going crazy right now

What happened? I often disagree with him but man, this place would be so much more boring without him.

 

[ManicJack]

How many moderators are there currently?

 

[QueenStagiaire]

How many moderators are there currently?

One active moderator + Eshnar who I don‘t think does much at the moment

 

[Rob5091]

What happened? I often disagree with him but man, this place would be so much more boring without him.

Has the change of the Giro route pushed him over the edge? or too much Pogi?

 

[RedheadDane]

Has the change of the Giro route pushed him over the edge? or too much Pogi?

Another voluntary cool-off period?

Though, I'm pretty sure he hadn't yet been banned when Gigs made that post...

 

[Gigs_98]

Another voluntary cool-off period?

Though, I'm pretty sure he hadn't yet been banned when Gigs made that post...

He already was. It's why I came here.

 

[QueenStagiaire]

It was that Sopranos picture Salvarini posted in the Pogacar thread that pushed everyone over the edge

Picking up on that metaphor: Has anyone been over the edge (disregarding mou), though, or has the definition of the edge changed and more territory is out of bounds?

 

[jmdirt]

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Especially since tr*lling has become the MO for too many members.

IMO:
-The overall forum tone has become very negative.
--stupid racers, teams, courses, tactics, boring racers/races...
-Rider threads are loaded with more discussion about who a racer can't be/will never be, than actual discussion about the racer.
-Race threads are loaded with more discussion about what a racer can't win than what they just won.

Hence why most of my posts are just 'congrats'.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Hence why most of my posts are just 'congrats'.

Cafe threads are nice and chill.

 

[jmdirt]

Cafe threads are nice and chill.

Agree

 

[ManicJack]

Cafe threads are nice and chill.

Excuse my ignorance, but what are Cafe threads?

 

[Salvarani]

Especially since tr*lling has become the MO for too many members.

IMO:
-The overall forum tone has become very negative.
--stupid racers, teams, courses, tactics, boring racers/races...
-Rider threads are loaded with more discussion about who a racer can't be/will never be, than actual discussion about the racer.
-Race threads are loaded with more discussion about what a racer can't win than what they just won.

Hence why most of my posts are just 'congrats'.

Couldnt agree more.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Excuse my ignorance, but what are Cafe threads?

The non-cycling side so where American sports, weather, movie, book, etc. threads are all at. It used to be called the Cafe.

 

[Red Rick]

Especially since tr*lling has become the MO for too many members.

IMO:
-The overall forum tone has become very negative.
--stupid racers, teams, courses, tactics, boring racers/races...
-Rider threads are loaded with more discussion about who a racer can't be/will never be, than actual discussion about the racer.
-Race threads are loaded with more discussion about what a racer can't win than what they just won.

Hence why most of my posts are just 'congrats'.

Forum has become a bit calcified, but I also think that's a bit of a result of how calcified current cycling is anyway. Most posters have seen their original favorite riders retire. Etc.

I do think people easily forget how toxic fan wars of old on this forum could be.

 

[jmdirt]

Forum has become a bit calcified, but I also think that's a bit of a result of how calcified current cycling is anyway. Most posters have seen their original favorite riders retire. Etc.

I do think people easily forget how toxic fan wars of old on this forum could be.

The fan wars of old were messy at times, but still insightful and constructive (excluding Lance/Postal topics).

EDIT: I meant to touch on the 'favorite racer' part. Certainily many of the racers who I enjoyed watching race have moved on, but there are always many more to fill their place. I really enjoy some of the younger guys who just like to race their ars off.

 

[RedheadDane]

The non-cycling side so where American sports, weather, movie, book, etc. threads are all at. It used to be called the Cafe.

There's even a thread about vacuum cleaners.

 

[Gigs_98]

Forum has become a bit calcified, but I also think that's a bit of a result of how calcified current cycling is anyway. Most posters have seen their original favorite riders retire. Etc.

I do think people easily forget how toxic fan wars of old on this forum could be.

I honestly think the forum hasn't changed that much (at least compared to when I joined) but there was a little period in between when things were a lot less heated, leading us to believe that would be the new norm. Contador had retired, Sky was defeated, Nibali, Valverde and Sagan no longer what they used to be and Pogacar and Remco not yet the superstars they are today. Now it's back to fan wars between Roglic and Remco, MvdP and Van Aert, Vingegaard and Pogacar.

Some of these fan groups are becoming really obnoxious and the old guard watching them from the outside are annoyed how the forum is becoming such a mess. But in reality the only difference is that the last time fan wars were waging, that old guard was right in the middle of them. Take a look back at the Contador thread and tell me that was any better than what's going on in the Pogacar thread. I really don't think it was.

 

[Red Rick]

I honestly think the forum hasn't changed that much (at least compared to when I joined) but there was a little period in between when things were a lot less heated, leading us to believe that would be the new norm. Contador had retired, Sky was defeated, Nibali, Valverde and Sagan no longer what they used to be and Pogacar and Remco not yet the superstars they are today. Now it's back to fan wars between Roglic and Remco, MvdP and Van Aert, Vingegaard and Pogacar.

Some of these fan groups are becoming really obnoxious and the old guard watching them from the outside are annoyed how the forum is becoming such a mess. But in reality the only difference is that the last time fan wars were waging, that old guard was right in the middle of them. Take a look back at the Contador thread and tell me that was any better than what's going on in the Pogacar thread. I really don't think it was.

Nibali vs Valverde was hot *** for quite a long time after Contador retired actually. Evenepoel thread was hot and contentious as early as 2019.

We never truly had a break.

 

[Gigs_98]

Nibali vs Valverde was hot *** for quite a long time after Contador retired actually. Evenepoel thread was hot and contentious as early as 2019.

We never truly had a break.

But I think it was less heated nontheless. I think Nibali vs Valverde was never quite as toxic because neither had that many followers who were fans of the riders first and fans of the sport second. And while there was a lot of hype around Remco I don't think there were many people on this forum just because of him until at least the 2021 Giro, when he first raced in a GT. I genuinely recall that period around 2020 to be a lot calmer than it was before and than it is now.

 

[jmdirt]

I honestly think the forum hasn't changed that much (at least compared to when I joined) but there was a little period in between when things were a lot less heated, leading us to believe that would be the new norm. Contador had retired, Sky was defeated, Nibali, Valverde and Sagan no longer what they used to be and Pogacar and Remco not yet the superstars they are today. Now it's back to fan wars between Roglic and Remco, MvdP and Van Aert, Vingegaard and Pogacar.

Some of these fan groups are becoming really obnoxious and the old guard watching them from the outside are annoyed how the forum is becoming such a mess. But in reality the only difference is that the last time fan wars were waging, that old guard was right in the middle of them. Take a look back at the Contador thread and tell me that was any better than what's going on in the Pogacar thread. I really don't think it was.

Maybe I'm burned out then because it seems worse to me. Maybe the 'rider wars' aren't much different, but there isn't any reasonable discussion in between, and the race threads are bizarre. For example: a rider wins a big race, but a lot of the comments are about how that rider could never defeat some other rider. Many other comments are about how boring the race was, how stupid the tactics were, etc...

EDIT: My feeling about this are certainly aggravated by my enjoyment of the race over the rider. If I was forced to pick a (non USA) favorite, I'd probably pick MvdP. When he wins I'm happy, but when he loses in a good race I'm happy too. I really enjoy all of the great racers who seem to love racing hard. ramble...ramble...