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Berzin said:
The point was to keep the conversation moving forward as opposed to rehashing the same tired arguments over and over again.

In other words, beating the same dead horse for the purpose of trolling.

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We'll note of course that mods never ever need to step in when the same affirmative dead horse is beaten over and over again.

To wit: the amount of online simpleton pundits bandying the term sociopath, yet never ever elaborating the implications of the concept for this situation,
 
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Berzin said:
The content I deleted wasn't content. It was the same old accusations against the same people. Those arguments have been rehashed over and over again.

Then you need to delete pretty much every thread there is that contains a reference to Sky and their riders by that logic.
 
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... online simpleton pundits bandying the term sociopath, yet never ever elaborating the implications of the concept for this situation,

I thought that terminology and related aspect of Lances presumed personality and known actions has been discussed at some length.
 
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I thought that terminology and related aspect of Lances presumed personality and known actions has been discussed at some length.

As a relatively new member, I haven't. Do I get a chance? :)
 
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sittingbison said:
I thought that terminology and related aspect of Lances presumed personality and known actions has been discussed at some length.

My point: we don't see Berzin or any other mod stepping in to insist the discussion focus on the lawsuits anytime that tedious chestnut gets dragged out in relation to whatever the news item of the day is.
 
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My point: we don't see Berzin or any other mod stepping in to insist the discussion focus on the lawsuits anytime that tedious chestnut gets dragged out in relation to whatever the news item of the day is.

Of course. Any ridicule, insulting, and general attack on LA is fair game and moves along the discussion. Anything outside of that is subject to deletion or the ban hammer. Welcome to CN forums......along with the blatant speculation and slamming whoever wins a bike race, it doesn't cease to amaze me that advertisers put up with this zoo.
 
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ChrisE said:
Welcome to CN forums......along with the blatant speculation and slamming whoever wins a bike race, it doesn't cease to amaze me that advertisers put up with this zoo.

Nice attempt to shut down discussion.
 
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sittingbison said:
I thought that terminology and related aspect of Lances presumed personality and known actions has been discussed at some length.

Bike racing, bike racing tactics, bike equipment and bike racing teams (not to mention riders) have been talked way way more so are to to stop those as well?

Just wondering while you're as ceasing discussion on one particular matter figure we need a clarification on which have been discussed at some length to be terminated.

Has the mods thread been discussed too much? Might want to terminate that as well. No? Why? Maybe its time to shut the site down then?

Just wondering what the overall agenda is of this Cycling related forum is or was and if its changed and someone forgot to tell us?

Remember more than one question.
 
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ElChingon said:
Bike racing, bike racing tactics, bike equipment and bike racing teams (not to mention riders) have been talked way way more so are to to stop those as well?

Just wondering while you're as ceasing discussion on one particular matter figure we need a clarification on which have been discussed at some length to be terminated.

Has the mods thread been discussed too much? Might want to terminate that as well. No? Why? Maybe its time to shut the site down then?

Just wondering what the overall agenda is of this Cycling related forum is or was and if its changed and someone forgot to tell us?

Remember more than one question.

Uhm, wut? .....
 
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As requested by Dr.Maserati, I'll post here the warning I sent him a few hours ago.
Dear Dr,
we probably told you already, but you seriously need to stop derailing threads. There's no one left in our staff who can bear it anymore.

Just stop it. There won't be other warnings (this one is already too much for someone)

Cheers,
Eshnar
 

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Eshnar said:
As requested by Dr.Maserati, I'll post here the warning I sent him a few hours ago.

That is not a warning - thats a whinge. Don't confuse the two.

BTW - you have my express permission to also include all PMs that I sent in response. All of them.
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
That is not a warning - thats a whinge. Don't confuse the two.

BTW - you have my express permission to also include all PMs that I sent in response. All of them.
Dr. Maserati said:
Eshnar said:
Dr. Maserati said:
Eshnar said:
Dear Dr,
we probably told you already, but you seriously need to stop derailing threads. There's no one left in our staff who can bear it anymore.

Just stop it. There won't be other warnings (this one is already too much for someone)

Cheers,
Eshnar
I want this is responded to in the mod thread.

I am not derailing threads. I am responding to someone and I am always on topic. Do not in any way blame me because you guys cannot spot the real trolling going in threads.
Let us spot them without vortexing the entire thread. It's a lot more difficult if you do. I'm sorry but really, it's a rare enough thing when we all agree that a poster has crossed the line. Hard to believe we're all wrong. You've been warned.
If you want you can always ask clarification to either Susan or Dan.
This is not a warning - it is a whinge.

If it was a warning you would be able to be specific on where I have "derailed", you havent. Why?

Also I asked that if you have a problem we can discuss this in the mod thread.
Again, do not blame me because you guys cant spot the subtle trolling being done - and yes, you are all wrong because you have done nothing, and your only answer is to get find of the perceived problem (ie me) again.

Just a second and I'll post the rest.
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
Eshnar said:
Dr. Maserati said:
This is not a warning - it is a whinge.

If it was a warning you would be able to be specific on where I have "derailed", you havent. Why?
Because I thought you'd know, and because it's a recurrent behaviour so it's not just a post.
I'm talking about the Walsh thread for instance, which since three days or so is dominated by semantics arguments.
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Also I asked that if you have a problem we can discuss this in the mod thread.
we don't have any problem. You have, if you wanna stay here, otherwise it's even easier for us and for you.
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Again, do not blame me because you guys cant spot the subtle trolling being done - and yes, you are all wrong because you have done nothing, and your only answer is to get find of the perceived problem (ie me) again.
That's not our only answer. It's absolutely true that you're certainly not the only problem in those threads. There are many problems, and you are one of them.
I have not derailed the Walsh thread.

I am the one who is more than happy to discuss Walsh, and have at all times attempted to discuss just that. As an example, I have had my differences with Digger on twitter, but we have been able to discuss our slight differences civilly today - are you suggesting I cannot respond???

"Recurrent behaviour" ?? Pff - twice you guys have banned me for things I did not do! Again, do not blame me because you cannot be specific and that you are not moderating.
Being honest - I view the fact that you went to PMs as nothing more than a very sly attempt to keep me quiet and then threaten me.
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Dr. Maserati said:
Eshnar said:
you did.
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you can ofc. That's not the issue.
What is the issue? Be specific.
Why is it I can respond to digger and not be derailing the thread?
Or is it that it is not me that is derailing the thread?
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change your glasses then.
I have no need to threat you. No tribunal will question me for banning you.
If you wish so, I can post publicly the same warning on the Walsh thread, or in the mods thread. I didn't because I wanted to make sure you read it. Many times people put on such excuses.
In any case, the warning still stands. You can argue about it as long as you want.
I responded through PM in minutes - so how can you pretend that to be an excuse for not posting publiclly, which i requested?

Go ahead, post it publicly - be sure to include the whinge about the other mods and that you guys would prefer for me to stay away.
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Dr. Maserati said:
Eshnar said:
You can respond, as everyone does, as long as you don't continously ask for any tiny detail, as long as you don't fill ten pages of semantics argument, as long as you don't harass other posters (trolls or not trolls, that's not your job). We should probably delete 90% of that thread now. And it is mainly your fault, as any other user will (and did) point out.
Hold on - so I can respond but cannot go i to "semantics".

Again, this is you guys problem. My BS detector is way better than yours, so I can spot the BS claims and added content that is thrown in - usually to misdirect by those with an agenda.
It is your fault that you allow people to throw any unattributed muck on the forum.

Do not blame me for rightly questioning it. If they are allowed post BS I will query it.

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But I will post it now, I simply said I chose the PM as a more effective way to deliver the message.
...and the threat/warning.

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Eshnar said:
As requested by Dr.Maserati, I'll post here the warning I sent him a few hours ago.

When are you going to direct the same message to the handful of posters here who constantly derail threads with insults, baiting, and unsupportable claims?

Pretending it is the fault of one guy is absurd.
 
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Race Radio said:
When are you going to direct the same message to the handful of posters here who constantly derail threads with insults, baiting, and unsupportable claims?

Pretending it is the fault of one guy is absurd.
how do you know we didn't?
We deliver such warnings to anyone who does that. Dr. Mas appears to do that most frequently though. And he's certainly the only one willing to make it public.
 
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Worst mod ever race which was a dead heat between Netserk and Berzin now has Eshnar moving up really fast on the outside. :rolleyes:
 
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Race Radio said:
If you do it is not working...... it happens over and over and over. Same posters, same nonsense.
yeah, it's indeed not working and I believe it won't work with the Dr. neither. I had to try though.
 
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Hugh Januss said:
Worst mod ever race which was a dead heat between Netserk and Berzin now has Eshnar moving up really fast on the outside. :rolleyes:
I don't like to lose :cool:
Tell me what's wrong in it (so I know what to do to win)
 

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Eshnar said:
I accidentally deleted my last reply. Dr, please post that too thanks.

I believe it is this, but my in box got full and I deleted some.
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Eshnar said:
it is your fault for derailing the thread. If people are trolling and you derail the thread questioning them, the thread is lost anyway. You are not helping anyone - not us, not the forum, and not the posters.
No - its the person doing the trolling and whats funnier is the mods all allow it and then whinge.

When I smell BS I question them and allow the person to clarify or even correct me. It is not for me to assume they are trolling.
However I often get dismissed with 'the vortex' (as you did) when it is my question that will expose whether they are genuine or not. As well as the fact that you allow people to leave up often false claims.

Do not blame me because you guys allow this is the first place.
 
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