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The Hitch

The Hitch

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This is not the first d time that Bavarian rider has made somehting up and passed it off as fact
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First Alpe d'Huez Passage is cancelled
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The first few times maybe you could argue he was legitimately confused but now its clear that he is just trolling.
 
hiero2

hiero2

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Zam_Olyas said:
Why was the The Hitch post deleted on Froome only talk?
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I saw you found it amusing, but what part of it did not strike you as a direct personal attack against another poster?
 
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The Principal Sheep said:
Well I don’t agree with that (humorous use of ***?) but then I’m not American or currently living in America, nor have I watched these sketches.

I can see however by the response of some that I’m in danger of descending down a tunnel of their paranoia and hysteria and obviously I have no wish to impinge on someone’s insecure grasp of the English language.
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My opinion, btw, is mine, not necessarily that of our mod squad. Disclaimer offered and placed.

I have friends and family with offspring (children no longer) who are in the category referred to. Telling you that to demonstrate that I do have empathy for your thinking.

To be clear, if I wasn't before, this discussion is about use of the phrase, "full ***", not the word alone "***". The qualification, and it's association, quite effectively, imo, changes the meaning quite dramatically.

I recall when "ain't" got entered into the dictionary, and "y'all". "Ain't" was supposed by some to indicate ignorance, and perhaps it does, but it was common enough. "Y'all" was also supposed to indicate ignorance. However, "y'all" demonstrates a reasonable usage of an impersonal plural you, and is much more comfortable than "you guys". An impersonal plural you is something other Romance languages have, that English lacks. Making "Y'all" a rational and intelligent alternative. Just sayin - sometimes usage patterns and acceptance thereof changes.

Perhaps you will be proven right in this case. I WILL keep your comments in mind in the future.
 
Zam_Olyas

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hiero2 said:
I saw you found it amusing, but what part of it did not strike you as a direct personal attack against another poster?
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That particular poster is known to post like that just to stir up the clinic...yea but whatever we will not agree. No, i did not find it amusing..YOU are a mod but don't put words in my mouth.
 
The Hitch

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hiero2 said:
I saw you found it amusing, but what part of it did not strike you as a direct personal attack against another poster?
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Dont exagerate. My post advised TFF not to respond to the other poster because the other poster had no interest in engaging in discussion.

Which was 100% correct because the other poster as i correctly predicted, did not come back to engage in the discussion.

As he never does.

There is absolutely NOTHING personal about telling a fellow poster not to waste their time replying to someone who has historically shown no interest in taking part in discussions

The only bit that could be said was against the rules in my post was when i used the words "lacks intelligence" to explain why the 1st poster would not take part in the discussion.

Fine give me an infraction for it. Usually 10 times worse is kosher but i get that Cn put pressure on the mods to treat july like Inspectors day and crack down on the most minor of faults.

But don't tell me my whole post was personal because aside from those 2 words there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. And usually in such cases the offending word gets cut out and the rest of the post gets to remain, so zam has a point in asking why it was totally deleted.
Not that it matters now that the thread has had another 200 posts
 
hiero2

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Zam_Olyas said:
That particular poster is known to post like that just to stir up the clinic...yea but whatever we will not agree. No, i did not find it amusing..YOU are a mod but don't put words in my mouth.
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My apologies for any offense - your reply to hitch's comment seemed to indicate amusement. Since it quoted, and made no sense w/o aforesaid, I deleted it also. I had no intention of putting words in your mouth, or offering any offense. I might even have found amusement in it myself - but that does not make it appropriate.
 
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hiero2 said:
Because, in it's current usage, so far as I can tell, it is not an insult. I see what you are saying, because it uses "***" in it's construction, but it refers to a humorous use of both words, and the one does not stand on it's own. Nor does it any longer truly refer to persons of limited intelligence or ability. Since it takes into account the humanity of people "with mental disabilities", I still don't agree that it is even an insult. Use of "***" by itself would still be just as offensive as "moron" or "idiot", but "full ***" has entered the lexicon from a comedy sketch, and is usually used in a similar manner.
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Actually, full *** is most definitely related to mental disability. The character in question was playing a mentally handicapped character and overdid his acting and went "full ***".

It was most definitely aimed at mocking the mentally handicapped, and its use in cycling circles is far less to do with the film, and far more to do with Floyd Landis adoption of the phrase through his various twitter guises.

Personally I wouldn't use it because of its obvious mental health mocking connotations.
 
hiero2

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The Hitch said:
Dont exagerate. My post advised TFF not to respond to the other poster because the other poster had no interest in engaging in discussion.

Which was 100% correct because the other poster as i correctly predicted, did not come back to engage in the discussion.

As he never does.

There is absolutely NOTHING personal about telling a fellow poster not to waste their time replying to someone who has historically shown no interest in taking part in discussions

The only bit that could be said was against the rules in my post was when i used the words "lacks intelligence" to explain why the 1st poster would not take part in the discussion.

Fine give me an infraction for it. Usually 10 times worse is kosher but i get that Cn put pressure on the mods to treat july like Inspectors day and crack down on the most minor of faults.

But don't tell me my whole post was personal because aside from those 2 words there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. And usually in such cases the offending word gets cut out and the rest of the post gets to remain, so zam has a point in asking why it was totally deleted.
Not that it matters now that the thread has had another 200 posts
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Two words. Just two words, right? Ok - so I'm going to post what you wrote, right here, and let everyone see what your "two words" means. Names redacted to protect the innocent.

xxxxxxx threw a small stone thinking it was a grenade, into the clinic, and immediately run away for cover.

xxxxxxx doesn't have the intelligence to engage in discussions with people on this issue. He just hoped to flame a few people with a hit and run. Maybe wont even bother checking back to see it was a dud.
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Now, please tell me, the words above, spoken sotto voce in your local pub/bar, with the 3rd party referred present? What kind of reaction do you think you would get? And do you mean to tell me that you did not intend for such a reaction?

Take it outside.
 
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Why is your frame of reference always, how would people react in a bar, it's a bit weird fam.

Were you a bit of a bar brawler in your younger days?
 
the sceptic

the sceptic

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If people never get called out on their stupidity they will just keep doing it forever. I dont take it personal if people call me an idiot, i try to figure out what im doing wrong.
 
Zam_Olyas

Zam_Olyas

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Cyivel said:
Why is your frame of reference always, how would people react in a bar, it's a bit weird fam.

Were you a bit of a bar brawler in your younger days?
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In New England there are a lot of Irish pubs.
 
The Hitch

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hiero2 said:
Two words. Just two words, right? Ok - so I'm going to post what you wrote, right here, and let everyone see what your "two words" means. Names redacted to protect the innocent.



Now, please tell me, the words above, spoken sotto voce in your local pub/bar, with the 3rd party referred present? What kind of reaction do you think you would get? And do you mean to tell me that you did not intend for such a reaction?

Take it outside.
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lol wut. What is this, the garden of eden?

xxxx (dont know why its some big secret who made the post) was behaving in a distruptive manner and i called him out for it. Nothing wrong with that at all.

How would he react in a bar? Who knows, maybe hed see the error of his ways, shake my hand and buy me a drink or maybe hed pick up a chair and smash it against the back of my head.

Im not responsible for how they react. I didnt pick out an innocent, just commented on the behaviour of someone who had try to stir up some **** for fun.
 
Semper Fidelis

Semper Fidelis

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Zam_Olyas said:
In New England there are a lot of Irish pubs.
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"What's that?

It's a cocktail. You asked for a cocktail.

No. I asked you to give me a refreshing drink. I wasn't expecting a fhcking rainforest! You could fall in love with an orangutan in that!

You want a pint, you go to the pub.

I thought this was a pub!

It's a Samoan pub."
:D
 
Amsterhammer

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Eshnar said:
which post?
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The post I made about 10 minutes ago, asking Dan Benson for an explanation (and maybe even an apology) for the ridiculously long down time.....a post in which I also pointed out that people should lay off the mods since what happened was absolutely nothing to do with you (mods/admins).

Tsk, where are my manners - hi Eshnar, it's good to be back, huh?

2nd edit - all is well...except for me losing my mind.......
 
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