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Echoes said:
..and then they are shocked when BigMac calls them bullies... I mean they ARE bullies and cowards. Just kids in a schoolyard who are calling the supervisor for help. Boooh ...
Not dissagreeing with the stuff about Dellboy, who is indeed labeled as a troll much too often, but I believe Big Mac was that nazee boy a while back? He should shut his mouth about ethics on a forum.

Besides that, I wish everyone a good Christmas.
 
Fearless Greg Lemond said:
Not dissagreeing with the stuff about Dellboy, who is indeed labeled as a troll much too often, but I believe Big Mac was that nazee boy a while back? He should shut his mouth about ethics on a forum.

Besides that, I wish everyone a good Christmas.

Yeah and he defended someone who had posted something equally dubious a while back.

Indeed. He's not the person to teach other forum members about ethics.
 
Fearless Greg Lemond said:
I believe Big Mac was that nazee boy a while back? He should shut his mouth about ethics on a forum.

Besides that, I wish everyone a good Christmas.

It's sad you see him that way, Fearless. If you really knew him you'd quickly realise he's not a Nazi at all. I got to know him on the other boards, long after the controversy and discovered a kid who was totally different than I thought he was.

He posted a comment questioning the way historians told the story of the Holocaust, that does not make him a Nazi. He posted A.H. quotes as sigs, that was just a provocative and caustic way of saying that even the worst dictators could sometimes say good things, it's not all black & white.

I'd add that the way his ban was handled was just ... shameless!!! I mean excavating an old post, 2 or 3 months earlier, seems like a J. Edgar Hoover method. You are filed, you are on a blacklist and once you've made the slightest misstep, your past comes back and you are done. I don't know if the reporter's identity is known, but I think I know, not hard to guess. To some extent I'm thinking of this quote from the Prisoner series: "I won't be pushed, filed, briefed, debriefed, indexed or numbered. My life is my own."

This whole spirit of denouncement is not healthy at all. That is what I'm trying to say (and I think BigMac as well). He's totally legit for this, he's learned it to his cost. And this spirit of denouncement does remind us of "the darkest hours of our history." Or how the people in the occupied countries felt it was their duty to denounce ... Something that we nowadays can't even understand (at least decent people).

Edit: I'd like to add that on this forum I read some comments that I guess I could never have imagined possible. Some from Iraq War apologists, from angry Flemings showing their Wallonia hatred (lying, of course), from Islamophobes, etc. I never felt wise to report anything of the sort because I believe in freedom of speech. If everybody refrain from doing so, this would certainly be a better place.

If you are not convinced, at least, give him a second chance. He hasn't posted anything controversial, since his comeback and talks about cycling more often than about other topics.

Merry Christmas to you, FGL. "For what's left of it" (Sir Roger Moore, in the Wild Geese)
 
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Merry Christmas everyone! :)

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LaFlorecita said:
Where is Parrulo? I have not seen him in a while

I am still alive and well :D

I have just been very busy lately and since it's the off season i haven't felt like posting in a while. Everyone needs a deload from time to time :p But you can count on me annoying you all once the racing kicks off again

But thanks for caring :)
 
BigMac said:
Understanding a subforum for gossip and other fanboyisms is unlikely, I can suggest posters' using common sense in that they should avoid, for instance, posting whole pictures in discussion threads and instead link to it. Sometimes it's the overload of graphic content that turns a thread unreadable, because there's not much to read. And most times it's completely random material. Or if you, say, are going to share a tweet, write something on it so it's not just an isolated quotation people are not sure what to do with. Have control over yourselves. Another way to avoid cloating a thread is to gather content and post it all together - it may not seem like it, but it's much more friendly to the user to read or see it all in one post instead of spread over a page, even if all followed by each other or if exactly the same content. It is my experience. This implies you to be slightly less impulsive. Give it a second thought: perhaps it's not worth having an argument or discussion with multiple posts of just a single line or sentence that may add nothing. If it's a discussion at all. I will say that the reason why I find it impossible to go through the Contador Discussion Thread is because there's little to no discussion going on - instead the same people repeating the same things, agreeing with each other and posting such, or in constant need to write some sort of praise for whatever possible reason. It's the place where discussion got bested by speculation and disagreement is expressed in the most basic forms of insulting and denigration of other parties. It's a mess that can only be inverted with prudence by the contributors.

Just wished to bump this so well written text and post something much more stupid but it makes me laugh.

This is the list of 49 dates in 2014 when there was not a single post on the Contadull thread. So for 316 days in 2014, this thread was active. Would you allow me to say it's some sort of collective madness. :eek:

How come that the Vanmarcke thread is not as active for example? That's beyond me.

December 8
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Echoes said:
Just wished to bump this so well written text and post something much more stupid but it makes me laugh.

This is the list of 49 dates in 2014 when there was not a single post on the Contadull thread. So for 316 days in 2014, this thread was active. Would you allow me to say it's some sort of collective madness. :eek:

How come that the Vanmarcke thread is not as active for example? That's beyond me.

It's because Alberto is a popular rider DEAL with it!!

You don't like Alberto because he wasn't born in the 50s, doesn't ride cyclocross, doesn't ride 90 race days a year, focuses on stage races and doesn't ride the cobbled classics. Fine. But don't judge those who like him and like stage races!! Build a bridge and GET OVER IT. You having an opinion no one shares does NOT make you better than everyone else.
 
it's quite ironic that someone who complains of "censorship" when racist/bullying/otherwise offensive comments they make get deleted by the mods, is now trying to lecture people in the mod subforum, which threads they should and shouldn't post in:eek:

That's some real Internet Taliban **** right here.
 
LaFlorecita said:
It's because Alberto is a popular rider DEAL with it!!

You don't like Alberto because he wasn't born in the 50s, doesn't ride cyclocross, doesn't ride 90 race days a year, focuses on stage races and doesn't ride the cobbled classics. Fine. But don't judge those who like him and like stage races!! Build a bridge and GET OVER IT. You having an opinion no one shares does NOT make you better than everyone else.

This thread is not about Alpuerto Clenbutador.
 
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This is the list of 49 dates in 2014 when there was not a single post on the Contadull thread. So for 316 days in 2014, this thread was active. Would you allow me to say it's some sort of collective madness. :eek:

December 8
November 29
November 4
October 27
October 20
October 15
October 10
October 2
September 27
July 30
May 30
May 29
May 28
May 27
May 25
May 24
May 23
May 20
May 19
May 17
May 12
May 11
May 10
May 9
May 8
May 1
April 28
April 17
April 6
April 5
April 4
April 3
March 6
March 5
March 4
March 3
March 2
March 1
February 12
February 11
February 10
February 6
January 22
January 21
January 20
January 8
January 7
January 6
January 1

now that is an impressive show of data collection. what is most surprising is that there were so many days without an entry in the Contador thread. my next thought about this post is why...why would a CN forumite be driven to make a study of... nevermind :p

anyway, looks to me, if your research is true, like there is a need to post in january, february and probably off season times. i feel fairly certain that the month of May this year, and likely the spring in general, will be better attended due to Contador riding the Giro-Tour.
 
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It would be interesting to compare these dates with the data of when Fleur went on vacation, when she was grounded with no internet, when the wifi was down in her house, when she broke her iPhone and had to have it repaired.... I think it would probably account for 3/4 of these dates
 
Christian said:
It would be interesting to compare these dates with the data of when Fleur went on vacation, when she was grounded with no internet, when the wifi was down in her house, when she broke her iPhone and had to have it repaired.... I think it would probably account for 3/4 of these dates

Curiously enough, only 28 April, 1 May and 30 July coincide with days I was on vacation:) I had internet on every other day:)
 
pigoonse said:
now that is an impressive show of data collection. what is most surprising is that there were so many days without an entry in the Contador thread. my next thought about this post is why...why would a CN forumite be driven to make a study of... nevermind :p

anyway, looks to me, if your research is true, like there is a need to post in january, february and probably off season times. i feel fairly certain that the month of May this year, and likely the spring in general, will be better attended due to Contador riding the Giro-Tour.

Indeed, May will be very busy this year:)
 
Echoes said:
Just wished to bump this so well written text and post something much more stupid but it makes me laugh.

This is the list of 49 dates in 2014 when there was not a single post on the Contadull thread. So for 316 days in 2014, this thread was active. Would you allow me to say it's some sort of collective madness. :eek:

How come that the Vanmarcke thread is not as active for example? That's beyond me.

I don't understand how it is beyond you that there are comments on more days for a rider who specialises in multi-day events than for a rider who specialises in one day events.

After all, Contador enters his season's target, that's 21 days (23 including the rest days) people will be discussing him in relation to that race, plus the buildup and any fallout. Vanmarcke enters his season's target, that's 1 day people will be discussing him in relation to that race, plus the buildup and any fallout.

Even if both races receive equal coverage (optimistic, but still below what you would wish for I trust), so say each thread is contributed to every day for a month beforehand and a week after, that's still 22 more days of racing on which the Contador discussion will be active, simply because the race he is targeting lasts much longer.

I know that over the period of a Classics season, Vanmarcke will enter far more than a single one day race with success in mind. But he isn't racing as many consecutive days in relation to his season's target. Also, at the same time as the Classics, there are other high profile races which draw people's attention away (eg País Vasco, Critérium International, Trentino) from discussing solely the Classics specialists, while because of the enormous global reach of the Tour de France and the fact that the period before it includes a couple of weeks with only the national championships (as opposed to Tirreno/Paris-Nice early in Classics season), there are fewer competing subjects for discussion during the Tour buildup than there are during the Roubaix buildup.

Let's be clear: the Tour receives an enormously disproportionate amount of coverage and attention. But even if it didn't, it's easy to see why threads dealing in its specialists would be more active than threads dealing with the one-day specialists.
 
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