This was in the Landa clinic thread:
I want to thank Dan specifically and the mods in general for this post above. I've been trying to think of a way to ask that the clinic be moderated in such a way as to curtail some of the derailing of threads by folks insisting that doping doesn't exist, pros don't dope, teams don't dope, "you're just jealous" and nationalistically biased, too cynical, don't understand the sport, etc,etc,etc.
It seems unfair to me that doping is supposed to be kept out of the PRR section (which is understandable), but then when we go to the proper place to discuss doping, clinic threads get bogged down with folks who refuse to allow the joining of dots. I agree that there has to be some kind of leeway to allow posters to be skeptical of over-eager jumping to conclusions - sometimes posters can be wayyyyyy too quick to see doping in even the smallest occurrence. I don't think each poster has to buy every accusation in every situation, but I feel like, "it's the clinic. you're allowed to believe in doping here" should be the order of the day for that part of the forum. And keep the doping talk out of the PRR for the folks who don't want to hear about it.
If you open a rider/team's clinic thread, you shouldn't get to be incensed that accusations of doping are being discussed there. While saying that a particular situation/conclusion is not convincing to you is perfectly fine - saying something that amounts to "how dare you doubt this rider!" should not fly - at least not in the clinic.
Just my 2 cents.
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I want to thank Dan specifically and the mods in general for this post above. I've been trying to think of a way to ask that the clinic be moderated in such a way as to curtail some of the derailing of threads by folks insisting that doping doesn't exist, pros don't dope, teams don't dope, "you're just jealous" and nationalistically biased, too cynical, don't understand the sport, etc,etc,etc.
It seems unfair to me that doping is supposed to be kept out of the PRR section (which is understandable), but then when we go to the proper place to discuss doping, clinic threads get bogged down with folks who refuse to allow the joining of dots. I agree that there has to be some kind of leeway to allow posters to be skeptical of over-eager jumping to conclusions - sometimes posters can be wayyyyyy too quick to see doping in even the smallest occurrence. I don't think each poster has to buy every accusation in every situation, but I feel like, "it's the clinic. you're allowed to believe in doping here" should be the order of the day for that part of the forum. And keep the doping talk out of the PRR for the folks who don't want to hear about it.
If you open a rider/team's clinic thread, you shouldn't get to be incensed that accusations of doping are being discussed there. While saying that a particular situation/conclusion is not convincing to you is perfectly fine - saying something that amounts to "how dare you doubt this rider!" should not fly - at least not in the clinic.
Just my 2 cents.