Monaco: tax or doping heaven? or both?

[Dear Wiggo]

are you sure Kerrison lives in Monaco ??
So since Julich left last year he's never worked directly with Kerrison ? SKY's star rider live next door to SKY's star coach and they don't work together. That's weird considering Monaco is like a village.

I don't want to make it too off-topic, but Wiggo was at Garmin in 2009 but did not train with them at all other than the pre-season PR camp in Dec 2008. JV said he was trained by Ellingworth. But Brad said he struggled training with Ellingworth in 2012 because he didn't know him. In his biography, Ellingworth mentions nothing about training Brad to 4th at the 2009 Tour, and goes so far as to say Brad is a numbers guy, but Ellingworth is the antithesis of that.

The point being: these guys are not being trained by their teams. At all.

And they are stomping it.

Very interesting.

 

[blackcat]

Yep. He lives down the hall from Baden Cooke.

you just leave cookie alone, he is my homie


genius manager

 

[Benotti69]

I don't want to make it too off-topic, but Wiggo was at Garmin in 2009 but did not train with them at all other than the pre-season PR camp in Dec 2008. JV said he was trained by Ellingworth. But Brad said he struggled training with Ellingworth in 2012 because he didn't know him. In his biography, Ellingworth mentions nothing about training Brad to 4th at the 2009 Tour, and goes so far as to say Brad is a numbers guy, but Ellingworth is the antithesis of that.

The point being: these guys are not being trained by their teams. At all.

And they are stomping it.

Very interesting.

These guys could be caught out pretty easily if a guy like Kimmage was a full time cycling journalist and asking some direct questions and not copying pasting press releases.

Interesting that JV tells a story, that is not true according to Wiggins/Rod and yet JV is willing to take Wiggins back......

 

[DirtyWorks]

are you sure Kerrison lives in Monaco ??
So since Julich left last year he's never worked directly with Kerrison ? SKY's star rider live next door to SKY's star coach and they don't work together. That's weird considering Monaco is like a village.

Have we established that Kerrison is another beard like Carmichael and Lim anyway?

 

[lllludo]

Yep. He lives down the hall from Baden Cooke.

Cookie explained he moved here with McGee in 2004. By 2006, they had found a doc in Monaco to help them: Stephane Bremon specialist of anti-doping at IAAF.
Here's a picture of Bremon (Froome's personal doc) doing an effort test with Brad McGee in 2006 at IM2S a Monaco clinic
http://www.im2s.mc/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/test-effort.jpg

What a small world

 

[sniper]

Cookie explained he moved here with McGee in 2004. By 2006, they had found a doc in Monaco to help them: Stephane Bremon specialist of anti-doping at IAAF.
Here's a picture of Bremon (Froome's personal doc) doing an effort test with Brad McGee in 2006 at IM2S a Monaco clinic
http://www.im2s.mc/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/test-effort.jpg

What a small world

to be sure, it's Bermon, not Bremon.
Bermon specializing in effort testing makes a complete mockery out of Froome's claim of not knowing his VO2 max.

More on Bermon:
http://www.eubylonhealthcare.com/de/spezialisten/stéphane-bermon
Interesting job histroy:

Former Professional Positions:

Head Physician of O.G.C.Nice Pro Soccer Team: 1999-2003
Physician of the Junior Male Road Team (French Cycling Federation): 2004
Physician of the Professional Cycling Team “La Française des Jeux” 2007 – 2009

 

[sniper]

note that Gilbert currently resides in Monaco as well.
Gilbert was riding for FDJ when Bermon was a doc there.
still connected?

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Cookie explained he moved here with McGee in 2004. By 2006, they had found a doc in Monaco to help them: Stephane Bremon specialist of anti-doping at IAAF.
Here's a picture of Bremon (Froome's personal doc) doing an effort test with Brad McGee in 2006 at IM2S a Monaco clinic
http://www.im2s.mc/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/test-effort.jpg

What a small world

oui, c'est une petite monde. monde petite? tsk tsk.

 

[lllludo]

to be sure, it's Bermon, not Bremon.
Interesting job histroy:
Physician of the Professional Cycling Team “La Française des Jeux” 2007 – 2009

So Bermon also worked with Gilbert at FDJ during 2007-2009 season
Then in 2009 he left FDJ and moved to Monaco.... by coincidence.
http://www.lavenir.net/sports/cnt/387027

In 2009 Bermon also left FDJ but did he continue to work with Gilbert ?

 

[lllludo]

Froome and Vino shared the same doc in MONACO !

http://www.franreyesf.es/miniblog/?tag=stephane-bermon

Bermon, Froome's doc, used to be Vino's doc.

No choice : Monaco is a small village ;-)

 

[sniper]

http://www.franreyesf.es/miniblog/?tag=stephane-bermon

Bermon, Froome's doc, used to be Vino's doc.

No choice : Monaco is a small village ;-)

sweet...
here's bermon assuring us vino was an exceptional talent able to win the tdf, giro or vuelta:

Stéphane Bermon, para que éste afirme que el ciclista kazajo tiene unas “cualidades físicas excepcionales“, ideales para “ganar el Tour, la Vuelta o el Giro“.

 

[GearFiddler]

More noise to add to this:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bmc-soigneur-implicated-in-drug-investigation

Just in case anyone had forgotten...

 

[darwin553]

Well it is just as good as living in Switzerland!

 

[hmpower]

Advantages of both places and worlds

 

[RownhamHill]

are you sure Kerrison lives in Monaco ??
So since Julich left last year he's never worked directly with Kerrison ? SKY's star rider live next door to SKY's star coach and they don't work together. That's weird considering Monaco is like a village.

That's the complete opposite of what he said, which was he never worked with Kerrsion until Julich left (at the end of 2012).

 

[sniper]

More noise to add to this:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bmc-soigneur-implicated-in-drug-investigation

Just in case anyone had forgotten...

what exactly is the connection with this thread?

 

[lllludo]

Froomey's doc... always

I made a mistake yesterday and read a bit quickly a Spanish thread : Stephane Bermon worked with Kashechkin (not sure about Vino).
I am not sure it's a better association ...

But today I found out something else. Bermon is a sport doctor, he has studied medicine but he is also member of a trainer/coach network that work with SRM, power captors with guys like Grappe, Pinot, Villerius etc...
https://sites.google.com/site/powertapsrm/reseau-puissance

This is the guy Froome visits to have a prescription for glucocorticosteroïds in case of chest infection (last time he visited he only got a spray...)

Froome had missed Liège-Bastogne-Liège due to a chest infection and initially consulted with his personal doctor in Monaco, Dr. Bermon, who did not prescribe any oral corticosteroids to treat the ailment.

COACH/DOC : that's an interesting business model. Another name with such skills that come to my mind is Michele Ferrari, a doc who draws the best training plans...

 

[lllludo]

Russian corruption at IAAF

Doping scandal in Monaco (IAAF is Monaco based) involving Russians.
Yeaaah !
The IAAF anti-doping comission would have been corrupted by Russian dollars.
http://www.lequipe.fr/Athletisme/Article/La-federation-russe-aurait-elle-corrompu-l-iaaf-nbsp/34687

International scandal about Athletics ? May be but not only
Some locals might also be involved: among the members of the suspected IAAF AD comission is Dr Stephane BERMON !
Bermon's name surfaced during Chris Froome TUE affaire as Froomy's personal doctor (he works for a IM2S a sport clinic in Monaco) !
Bermon works with australian riders (Gerrans...) and used to work with Kaschechkin

To be continued ....

 

[the sceptic]

Dawgs personal doctor is involved? Well now things just got really interesting.

 

[mrhender]

House of cards about to come down ?

 

[thehog]

Dawgs personal doctor is involved? Well now things just got really interesting.

David Walsh will look into this once he finishes his Nutella & Beer sandwich.

I'll also need to check my copy of the Climb as I'm sure Bermon is mentioned

 

[the sceptic]

David Walsh will look into this once he finishes his Nutella & Beer sandwich.

I'll also need to check my copy of the Climb as I'm sure Bermon is mentioned

I'm sure Dawg only lives in Monaco for the nice weather and Vinos parties

 

[Parker]

Doping scandal in Monaco (IAAF is Monaco based) involving Russians.
Yeaaah !
The IAAF anti-doping comission would have been corrupted by Russian dollars.
http://www.lequipe.fr/Athletisme/Article/La-federation-russe-aurait-elle-corrompu-l-iaaf-nbsp/34687

International scandal about Athletics ? May be but not only
Some locals might also be involved: among the members of the suspected IAAF AD comission is Dr Stephane BERMON !
Bermon's name surfaced during Chris Froome TUE affaire as Froomy's personal doctor (he works for a IM2S a sport clinic in Monaco) !
Bermon works with australian riders (Gerrans...) and used to work with Kaschechkin

To be continued ....

The actual story (as opposed to the one you have created) is that there is an investigation into the Russian Federation, who an agent is alleging asked for a 450k bribe to get one of his star athletes off a bio passport case (she was later banned for two years). Nothing to do with Bermon or anyone on the IAAF anti-doping commision

Here's a non-firewall version: http://www.lematin.ch/sports/autres/iaaf-aurait-corrompue-fede-russe/story/19104035

 

[The Hitch]

Dawgs personal doctor is involved? Well now things just got really interesting.

House of cards about to come down ?

This happens every time some tiny rumour comes out.

Y'all need to chill and wait to see if something actually comes up. For now its nothing.

 

[mrhender]

This happens every time some tiny rumour comes out.

Y'all need to chill and wait to see if something actually comes up. For now its nothing.

Yeah, I guess in the heat of moment I was excited by the possibility of an early christmas present

But don't worry, I'am perfectly chilled now

edit: And I'am sure there's a pefectly logical explanation exonerating everyone but the russians...