Money Laundering & Doping In Italy. Armstrong, Menchov named

[Cimacoppi49]

Lying comes so easy for him

We are now entering a new stage of this affair. This is the fun time when the snakes start biting one another. Be patient. Wait until Thom and Lance go at it.

 

[Race Radio]

We are now entering a new stage of this affair. This is the fun time when the snakes start biting one another. Be patient. Wait until Thom and Lance go at it.

I am looking forward to the first flipper in the inner circle. My money is on Knaggs. He has a wife and kid, no way he is going to jail for Lance.

 

[Cimacoppi49]

I am looking forward to the first flipper in the inner circle. My money is on Knaggs. He has a wife and kid, no way he is going to jail for Lance.

You don't think Lance will take care of the guy's family while he does time?

 

[Cobblestones]

You don't think Lance will take care of the guy's family while he does time?

Depends, does Knaggs's wive look like Lance's mother?

 

[MacRoadie]

Depends, does Knaggs's wive look like Lance's mother?

Or Haven Parchinski?

 

[Semper Fidelis]

I am looking forward to the first flipper in the inner circle. My money is on Knaggs. He has a wife and kid, no way he is going to jail for Lance.

You don't think it will be College?

 

[Cloxxki]

Or Haven Parchinski?

Don't confuse twisted preference and questionnable motives. Just good taste would be an insult of his psyche.

 

[ChrisE]

Don't confuse twisted preference and questionnable motives. Just good taste would be an insult of his psyche.

Can you elaborate? I don't know if you are slamming or defending her. Thanks.

 

[thehog]

Can you elaborate? I don't know if you are slamming or defending her. Thanks.

The only one doing the slamming was Lance. Hinges, backdoors and all that.

 

[ChrisE]

The only one doing the slamming was Lance. Hinges, backdoors and all that.

Yeah, and apparently she left it unlocked lol.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

The only one doing the slamming was Lance. Hinges, backdoors and all that.

Dude do you have INSIDE info on that? I would hit that 2times!

 

[Merckx index]

Lying comes so easy for him

There are so many apparent lies here I’m having trouble keeping track of them all:

1) no relationship with Ferrari (initial position)
2) no business relationship with Ferrari (revised position)
3) no relationship with Ferrari’s son (lie of omission)
4) never tried to hide relationship with Ferrari
5) Ferrari not important enough to career to warrant mention in book
6) has no idea how much he paid Ferrari

Still, Ferrari himself can top all of those. From his website:

Q - How much can Doping or the use of drugs improve aerobic performance?

A - The majority of "doping" drugs does not actually improve performance; often many products impair it, especially in the mid-long term. For example, with regard to Gh, anabolic steroids and corticosteroids use, there is no serious scientific study proving an enhancement in aerobic sports.
The fact that athletes using such substances report "sensations" does not mean that their performances have actually improved.
Oxygen delivery enhancing drugs (EPO and similar) or methods (transfusions) improve performances by 2-5%, equal to about half of the increase in oxygen availability: in other words, if the Hemoglobin Mass (not to confuse with hemoglobin concentration!) increases by 10%, performance improves by about 5%.
The fact is that equal or even superior enhancements have been constantly reported by the scientific literature, through the correct use of perfectly legal methods such as dietetic manipulations (CHO-loading, Fat-loading), pre effort Hyperhydration, altitude, Precooling, aerodynamic arrangements, superfluous weight reductions, pedaling gesture's efficiency improvements, or simply a better distribution of the effort.
Athletes of all kinds, even top-level ones, not always pay attention to all these details, sometimes preferring the help of drugs.
In all probability, athletes resorting to doping are less talented, less determined to face the necessary sacrifices, but also have a more limited access to information on how to improve legally.

http://53x12.com/do/show?page=article&id=88

You don't think Lance will take care of the guy's family while he does time

Of course he will. All Knaggs has to do is draw a nice, warm bath, drink a final glass of wine, and slit his wrists…

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

The MI quotes have to make me laugh... Well done.

 

[ChrisE]

The Ferrari quotes are right up there. Beer travelling backwards thru the nostrils is not cool.

 

[thehog]

Very good!

But you forgot....

7) I often spend time with 20 year old Stefano in a mobile camper on the sides of small country roads. I mean what's wrong with being locked a way in a motorhome with a young Italian man half your age? Nothing wrong with that. Just me and young man out on the lonely roads of France. (hate to think what position this was)

There are so many apparent lies here I’m having trouble keeping track of them all:

1) no relationship with Ferrari (initial position)
2) no business relationship with Ferrari (revised position)
3) no relationship with Ferrari’s son (lie of omission)
4) never tried to hide relationship with Ferrari
5) Ferrari not important enough to career to warrant mention in book
6) has no idea how much he paid Ferrari

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[thehog]

There are so many apparent lies here I’m having trouble keeping track of them all:

1) no relationship with Ferrari (initial position)
2) no business relationship with Ferrari (revised position)
3) no relationship with Ferrari’s son (lie of omission)
4) never tried to hide relationship with Ferrari
5) Ferrari not important enough to career to warrant mention in book
6) has no idea how much he paid Ferrari

…

Very good!

But you forgot....

7) I often spend time with 20 year old Stefano in a mobile camper on the sides of small country roads. I mean what's wrong with being locked a way in a motorhome with a young Italian man half your age? Nothing wrong with that. Just me and young man out on the lonely roads of France. (hate to think what position this was)

 

[Martin318is]

Guys, try to keep it out of the gutter please.

 

[skippy]

Years ago there was a "RV (amper van) " that trailed around with the Protour events with " Gensan" on the front ! DRiven or owned by an ex racer but not seen it or him in reent years . Could not seem to find on Google , so anyone with theories as to who or what he was about ?

 

[doperhopper]

why lamenting at all about PEDs - when even a "good guy" like Jens Voigt admits openly to use dopnig, right during the Tour... everyone needs something for recovery.

http://bicycling.com/blogs/hardlyserious/2011/07/23/tour-de-france-stage-20-one-more-time/

 

[webvan]

Beer ?! Come on there's enough to talk about without making things up.

 

[Poursuivant]

Menchov, you silly boy, hope the book gets thrown at you.

 

[Random Direction]

intéressant (is Clouseau on the case?): http://www.lematin.ch/sports/cyclisme/une-vaste-enquete-sur-le-dopage-conduit-au-coeur-de-neuchatel.

 

[Anonymous]

intéressant (is Clouseau on the case?): http://www.lematin.ch/sports/cyclisme/une-vaste-enquete-sur-le-dopage-conduit-au-coeur-de-neuchatel.

its certainly getting interesting.

 

[webvan]

Very interesting indeed, especially the last paragraph...is that a RICO or what ?!

 

[Velodude]

Very interesting indeed, especially the last paragraph...is that a RICO or what ?!

RICO only lifts the protecting corporate veil to expose the decision makers if it is a US corporation.