Money Laundering & Doping In Italy. Armstrong, Menchov named

[Anonymous]

Italian

http://t.co/VGUII4MF

Translation

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=it&tl=en&u=http://t.co/VGUII4MF

Apparently Menchov has already had 2.4m blocked (although that could be bad translation). Scarponi also named.

 

[bobbins]

Good job they didn't investigate cash deposits in the Isle of Man made by British riders / sports directors

Plenty of riders use St Moritz, great training round there and obviously other fringe benefits too!

 

[Benotti69]

"A practice made possible - write - thanks to the method of the suitcase that allows many cyclists, by virtue of the frequent movement guaranteed by the practiced discipline, to move capital hidden in suitcases hidden in vehicles also used the occasion of the cycling races "

Best way to hurt these doping cyclists is to take their money of them. Pity that they in turn dont throw the doping doctors and DS's to the authorities (and not the UCI).

But the Italians really should have their bottoms smacked for never catching Ferarri and making it stick to him.

 

[Benotti69]

Good job they didn't investigate cash deposits in the Isle of Man made by British riders / sports directors

Plenty of riders use St Moritz, great training round there and obviously other fringe benefits too!

Davide Rebellin might have something to say about MonteCarlo

 

[GreasyMonkey]

If this unravells as one hopes....

WHAT A FREAKING MESS!!!

But there is nothing that has not been raised within the closetted confines of the Clinic - RR & Co, take a bow.

I guess that we will have Polish & Cobbles along any minute, calling NAS, the Padua Judiciary, et al, all "Haters"...

 

[Ferminal]

Poor Menchov, always doing it tough, a bit like Klöden you might say.

Who does Raimondo Scimone manage?

 

[python]

the bottom 1/3 of the article is about investigating ferrari and armstrong for money laundering through a now bankrupt company. it seems the italian investigating vigour was somewhat curbed by the non-italian home-base of the texan's team.

along with scarponi the article also mentioned kappets and gusev - which though it was not in the article - undoubtedly relates to the police raid on katusha's office in april.

the investigation is awaiting a response from spain.

 

[Cimacoppi49]

The sharing of information between Italian investigators and the Feds seems to be continuing. The computer networks set up by Ferrari could involve wire transfers/communications and will be very easy for the Feds to unravel.

I have to think that all of these guys never counted on a criminal investigation from the Feds like this one. In this instance the US will have jurisdiction over Ferrari based on money/wire transactions to/from the US and the fact that Ferrari likely committed criminal acts in the US when at Armstrong/Postal training camps here. One has to think the Italians will give Ferrari up pretty quickly when an extradition request is made.

 

[hrotha]

It seems the only truly new information here is the thing about Menchov, and the rest is an interesting recap of the several linked investigations.

How Menchov hasn't had any serious trouble with the authorities yet is beyond my understanding. He seems to be involved in every potential scandal that doesn't quite explode.

 

[Benotti69]

The sharing of information between Italian investigators and the Feds seems to be continuing. The computer networks set up by Ferrari could involve wire transfers/communications and will be very easy for the Feds to unravel.

I have to think that all of these guys never counted on a criminal investigation from the Feds like this one. In this instance the US will have jurisdiction over Ferrari based on money/wire transactions to/from the US and the fact that Ferrari likely committed criminal acts in the US when at Armstrong/Postal training camps here. One has to think the Italians will give Ferrari up pretty quickly when an extradition request is made.

Unless he jumps across the border into Swissbankland where he might have a few coins to live off.

 

[L'arriviste]

Poor Menchov, always doing it tough, a bit like Klöden you might say.

Who does Raimondo Scimone manage?

A quick search throws up something of a dark comedy. Scimone runs or ran (the website is quite old) a company called Sportfixing. Great name.

He managed these riders in the years 2003-2006 when the site was last updated:

Denis Menchov
Vladimir Karpets
Michele Scarponi
Alberto Ongarato
Luca Mazzanti
Paride Grillo
Evgueny Petrov
Alexander Kolobnev
Julio Alberto Perez Cuapio
Brett Lancaster
Domenico Pozzovivo
Enrico Franzoi (CX)
Ryan Cox
Vladimir Gusev
Koldo Gil Perez
Roman Luhovy
Sergio Marinangeli
Scott Davis
Massimo Giunti
Antonio Salomone
Tiaan Kannemeyer
Timothy Jones
Ivan Fanelli
Egor Silin
Marco Marcato
Daniele Pietropolli
Raffaele Ferrara
Luca Pierfelice

 

[Cobblestoned]

Ah, what a surprise.
There must be an important bikerace going on somewhere.
Oh wait...

If that was all, it won't overshadow the worlds completly. But still some days to go till the big highlight on Sunday.
Anyway, this will guarantee entertainment for the clinic-crew during the worlds again.

SSDD

 

[Race Radio]

Hate to say I told you so......but

 

[Martin318is]

Hate to say I told you so......but

wow - someone just said exactly this on Twitter!

 

[thehog]

Hate to say I told you so......but

It's good news for the Shack-Leopard merger!

 

[Race Radio]

It's good news for the Shack-Leopard merger!

It is understandable why riders and staff are ashamed to be associated with him. If you were a rider would you want to spend the next 1-2 years answering questions about Johan's doping program?

It is only going to get worse.

 

[spetsa]

It is understandable why riders and staff are ashamed to be associated with him. If you were a rider would you want to spend the next 1-2 years answering questions about Johan's doping program?

It is only going to get worse.

RR, a couple of us on this forum who have been around this entire mess (that is cycling in the USA) for a long time, have predicted much bigger fish to fry than LA using drugs. Any thoughts on the whole Shack-Leopard merger being an attempt by John Burke to keep Johan clsoe to him. There have got to be many people, that those outside of the USA do not know by name, who are crapping their pants.

 

[Oldman]

Hate to say I told you so......but

Perhaps a "Foundation" for additional investigation?

 

[Cobblestoned]

Hate to say I told you so......but

Not me. I can already manage to follow worldwide news and some tweets on my own.
Or are you even exclusive source for gazzetta etc., and speaker for Italian prosecutors and police ?
Those investigations and some details are public since more than half a year or so.
But I guess, for most people around here your myth-building still works and they are very fast in forgetting the details and timelines.
If you think otherwise, then prove it. You are very passionated, obviously nothing else to do and never tired of repeating same things around a hundred times. Thats true.
Anyway, we need you if it somehow helps you in your life.
You are essential for our life. Especially real life.

I feel some people feel negelected now because you chose to have your twitter session first before enlightening us here exclusively. Never do that again please. We need you, and I guess it isn't nice to be outsprinted by TSF. lol

 

[Cobblestoned]

It is understandable why riders and staff are ashamed to be associated with him. If you were a rider would you want to spend the next 1-2 years answering questions about Johan's doping program?

It is only going to get worse.

No one definately said that.
We have no quotes, just a newspaper that claims something like that. But no way it matches your "version".
They built a heartbreaking story around some of Cancellara's quotes.
Just some media spice. That's all.

If anything should be true, then everyone can read that the author is clearly speaking about the employee and especially Becca.
The riders are ashamed to be part of that Leopard project right now which is fully understandable. Who wouldn't ?

Please stay with the facts befor you go on with yout myths.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?p=685286#post685286

 

[roundabout]

A quick search throws up something of a dark comedy. Scimone runs or ran (the website is quite old) a company called Sportfixing. Great name.

He managed these riders in the years 2003-2006 when the site was last updated:

Denis Menchov
Vladimir Karpets
Michele Scarponi
Alberto Ongarato
Luca Mazzanti
Paride Grillo
Evgueny Petrov
Alexander Kolobnev
Julio Alberto Perez Cuapio
Brett Lancaster
Domenico Pozzovivo
Enrico Franzoi (CX)
Ryan Cox
Vladimir Gusev
Koldo Gil Perez
Roman Luhovy
Sergio Marinangeli
Scott Davis
Massimo Giunti
Antonio Salomone
Tiaan Kannemeyer
Timothy Jones
Ivan Fanelli
Egor Silin
Marco Marcato
Daniele Pietropolli
Raffaele Ferrara
Luca Pierfelice

Hmm, that has an air of Matschiner about it.

 

[Polish]

Cool, a new Lance thread.
Thanks Dim!

Lets see...read read read.
Hey, this is OLD Lance news
Disappointed.

Very Old SSDD.
SSDD has grown up, moved out, and has little ssdd's running around the house.
Kind of cute I guess.

But what happened to Dr Ferrarri "throwing Lance under the Bus"?
Where is that bus squish squish?
A year overdue. Late bus lol.

Although there is a new Lance nickname in the Article.
"The American King"
I LIKE THAT.
Like King Eddy.
Lance and Eddy.
Royalty.

 

[Winterfold]

I wish there were infractions and bans for utterly moronic posting...

 

[spetsa]

Cool, a new Lance thread.

But what happened to Dr Ferrarri "throwing Lance under the Bus"?Where is that bus squish squish?
A year overdue. Late bus lol.



If the Feds got to him before he ran off to hide in Switzerland, he may have already done so!

 

[thehog]

What's this about mini-Ferrarrii? He has a son?