Mosquera positive in the Vuelta

[Frosty]

Its up now

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/ENews/ENe...es/UCI/UCI5/layout.asp?MenuID=MTYxNw&LangId=1

 

[Roland Rat]

Funny how there's a sudden spate of Spanish positives. If I didn't know the UCI was a whiter-than-white organisation that would never seek to gain a financial advantage from positive tests, I'd start to think something shadier was at hand.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Garcia will blame:

a) a cow
b) a dog
c) his grandmother
d) twin brother
e) candy from South America

 

[hrotha]

Garcia will blame:

a) a cow
b) a dog
c) his grandmother
d) twin brother
e) candy from South America

He's Galician, maybe he'll blame his seafood.

 

[Roland Rat]

Garcia will blame:

a) a cow
b) a dog
c) his grandmother
d) twin brother
e) candy from South America

Clentador has raised the bar, we have to start thinking more creatively.

"I took a ride with a strange doctor in a delorean and we went back to 1992, when I had a sip of Chiappucci's water. Anyway, it doesn't count as EPO wasn't illegal in 1992."

or

"I accidentally drank a cup of urine collected from Marco Pantani in 1997, thinking it was apple juice".

 

[rolfrae]

He's Galician, maybe he'll blame his seafood.

Pino told him the injections were just gravy to go with his special 'steak'.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

"I accidentally drank a cup of urine collected from Marco Pantani in 1997, thinking it was apple juice".

That was so very very wrong.

 

[El Pistolero]

Garcia de Pena now also positive for EPO.

Susan

People still take that? Just wow.

I was aware cyclists still did a lot of blood transfusions and micro dosing of different products, but EPO?

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

People still take that? Just wow.

I was aware cyclists still did a lot of blood transfusions and micro dosing of different products, but EPO?

EPO is the poor man's Spanish steak.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

As I noted in another thread, EPO is still likely used quite a bit, just microdosed, usually during down times, and masked as well as possible. There are also quite a few forms of EPO, some more easy to detect than others. EPO is also much less intrusive, and safer than a blood transfusion.

Though we don't know for certain yet, one could guess part of the hydrolyzer that Mosquera and Garcia were using was do facilitate, maybe cover, EPO use.

 

[Frosty]

Doesnt seem like the most unlikely stage to get tested in if he was hoping he wouldnt get tested or something.

Not sure if im being a pedant here but the cyclingnews article has an inaccurate caption on the photo. David Garcia did not win stage 15 this year as it was Carlos Barredo who led them over the finish line that day. Garcia took the honours on stage 15 in 2008.

 

[Susan Westemeyer]

Not sure if im being a pedant here but the cyclingnews article has an inaccurate caption on the photo. David Garcia did not win stage 15 this year as it was Carlos Barredo who led them over the finish line that day. Garcia took the honours on stage 15 in 2008.

Old photo. We can't change the captions.

Susan

 

[Oldman]

Pino told him the injections were just gravy to go with his special 'steak'.

And here's some "starch" to go with all of that protein...

 

[rolfrae]

And here's some "starch" to go with all of that protein...

All part of a balanced diet.

 

[Bicicleta]

http://www.farodevigo.es/deportes/2...squera-limpio-sustancias-dopantes/487199.html

Well apparently Mosquera did not test positive during La Vuelta, but he is still not out of the water.

 

[The Hitch]

http://www.farodevigo.es/deportes/2...squera-limpio-sustancias-dopantes/487199.html

Well apparently Mosquera did not test positive during La Vuelta, but he is still not out of the water.

Im confused

 

[Escarabajo]

http://www.farodevigo.es/deportes/2...squera-limpio-sustancias-dopantes/487199.html

Well apparently Mosquera did not test positive during La Vuelta, but he is still not out of the water.

Trying to get out of it on a technicality.

Of course all the illegal substances are out of the system at the time of the test. O let's say mixed with system at the time of the test. He was not trying to mask a substance but a behavior of a substance which can not test positive for. Hah. Probably somebody said this already in this long thread, but I am too lazy to read it all.

 

[hrotha]

Any info on this?

La Federación Española puede sancionar a Ezequiel Mosquera si estima que se inyectó el hidroxietil. El margen de maniobra es amplio a la hora de decidir el alcance del castigo, de un simple apercibimiento a dos años de sanción. Lo habitual, incluso en el supuesto intravenoso, era que no hubiese suspensión de licencia. Historias como la de Mosquera se repiten a lo largo del año y ni siquiera se hacen públicas.

The Spanish Federation can suspend Ezequiel Mosquera if they consider he injected himself with hydroxyethyl. There's plenty of leeway regarding the harshness of the punishment, from a simple warning to a two-year ban. There was usually no licence suspension, even in case of IV intake. Stories like that of Mosquera's occur recurringly throughout the year and they're not even made public.

Basically the story goes positives for hydroxyethyl are commonplace and no one ever gets suspended for it. The "Contador case" would have made things different somehow. Is there any truth to this?

 

[python]

Any info on this?


Basically the story goes positives for hydroxyethyl are commonplace and no one ever gets suspended for it. The "Contador case" would have made things different somehow. Is there any truth to this?

it appears mosquera is arguing that his hes is what wada terms a specified substance, or that it came from a common-use food or product not intended for performance enhancement (source: as.com)

the procedural avenue for this argument is provided by the wada code rule 10.4.
in brief, it states that a suspension can be eliminated or shortened under specific circumstances, that is, if it was not a ped and proved how it entered his body.

this is usually a bs line when it comes to hes, though it is true that hes is contained in many products as a food additive and in some hair dyes.

it's usually not difficult to tell the different hes varinats by their molecular mass and concentrations.

mosquera and sevilla and garcia and the finnish c skiers most likely used it as a blood expander.