Most memorable doped perfomances?

[Fergoose]

Well... Vingegaard@Col du Granon Tour 2022.

In little over a year he's the best climber in the world after a less than stellar U23 career. Sounds legit.

Not up there for me personally given his two strongest rivals (Slovenians) both had dreadful days.

 

[PhiLiz]

I wouldn't put him up there. For a big budget te

Not up there for me personally given his two strongest rivals (Slovenians) both had dreadful days.

He put up nearly 6w/kg on the last climb after climbing Galibier faster than Pantani did in 98.

The Slovenians could've finished with Jakobsen, that would still be irrelevant.

 

[Fergoose]

His nose was hardly in the wind on the Galibier after the lower slopes. A one off comparison with a stage 24 years ago in different race and weather conditions isn't conclusive and we can agree to disagree on whether the performance of the Slovenians impacts on the level of confidence we can have in drawing conclusions today.

 

[macbindle]

Well...

.....what can we say after today. This looked like something from the Lance years.

 

[Bavarianrider]

Pas normal.

 

[scapewalker]

McNulty might just have taken the crown from WvA this Tour. His ride today was beyond ridiculous especially after his performance the past 2 weeks.

 

[PhiLiz]

If he's going for a Dennis double super peak tomorrow will be very fun.

 

[Ripper]

McNulty might just have taken the crown from WvA this Tour. His ride today was beyond ridiculous especially after his performance the past 2 weeks.

It's all just belief in his leader!!!

 

[madthebad]

Probably Van Aert's performance today is inside top10 all time.

 

[Nick2413]

McNulty might just have taken the crown from WvA this Tour. His ride today was beyond ridiculous especially after his performance the past 2 weeks.

Probably time to update this comment

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Probably Van Aert's performance today is inside top10 all time.

Just wait for him to win the ITT, Schumacher '08 vibes.

 

[spalco]

Just wait for him to win the ITT, Schumacher '08 vibes.

That would be a lot less surprising than his performance today though - but what about him going into the break tomorrow again? And then winning the TT and Champs Elysees...

 

[roundabout]

Just wait for him to win the ITT, Schumacher '08 vibes.

Schumacher while being pretty good in TTs had way less of a pedigree than Van Aert before going full WTF in 2008

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Schumacher while being pretty good in TTs had way less of a pedigree than Van Aert before going full WTF in 2008

I'm just meaning in terms of the endless breakaways and day after day recovery in the queen stages to be that far down on GC and still stand out that much for crazy, not comparing their previous pedigrees. And besides, van Aert has stood out more than the Mekon did in '08 to match his superior pedigree.

 

[therealthing]

Wout Van Aert, a pure sprinter, time-trial specialist and classics specialist, dropping Tadej Pogacar after drilling it for his teammate in yellow, despite being in the break all day and racing every stage full gas.

To me, this is the most suspicious performance post-Armstrong. And one of the most suspicious performances in cycling history.

 

[Bardamu]

Wout Van Aert, a pure sprinter, time-trial specialist and classics specialist, dropping Tadej Pogacar after drilling it for his teammate in yellow, despite being in the break all day and racing every stage full gas.

To me, this is the most suspicious performance post-Armstrong. And one of the most suspicious performances in cycling history.

Lance never dared to be this obvious

 

[scapewalker]

Probably time to update this comment

WvA clearly saw my comment, got triggered and decided to prove me wrong by dropping Pogacar on Hautacam.

Well it did work. I take back what i said he is the one and only Alpha Mutant

 

[topt]

It's all just belief in his leader!!!

we are missing you in the alpha mutant thread

 

[Gigs_98]

I honestly think McNulty yesterday was more suspicious than Van Aert today. Van Aert might have been even stronger, especially taking into account the rest of this Tour, but at least he was always known as an exceptional talent, has won a TdF mountain stage before and has been impressive this entire race. McNulty was completely anonymous this entire Tour before pulling off an all time great climbing performance. Those one off performances have always been the most suspicious to me and that was one of the craziest ones I can remember.

 

[topt]

I honestly think McNulty yesterday was more suspicious than Van Aert today. Van Aert might have been even stronger, especially taking into account the rest of this Tour, but at least he was always known as an exceptional talent, has won a TdF mountain stage before and has been impressive this entire race. McNulty was completely anonymous this entire Tour before pulling off an all time great climbing performance. Those one off performances have always been the most suspicious to me and that was one of the craziest ones I can remember.

just wondering did you at least check the watts from Mcnulty ? Cause they were nothing special

 

[Gigs_98]

just wondering did you at least check the watts from Mcnulty ? Cause they were nothing special

A guy starts riding at the front of the peloton, continues to ride at the front for two consecutive 1st category climbs, rides everyone other than two cyborgs off his wheel and finishes the stage about 2 minutes in front of everyone bar those two cyborgs and you are looking at his watts saying "WELL ACTUALLY..."

Did you watch the f*cking stage?

 

[fbjim]

just checking: is a guy putting in a great ride and then dropping early the next day a sign that they're human, and tired after going deep the prior day, or a sign that "oh, that means yesterday is even more suspicious because they don't usually have that form"

 

[topt]

A guy starts riding at the front of the peloton, continues to ride at the front for two consecutive 1st category climbs, rides everyone other than two cyborgs off his wheel and finishes the stage about 2 minutes in front of everyone bar those two cyborgs and you are looking at his watts saying "WELL ACTUALLY..."

Did you watch the f*cking stage?

I did, and AGAIN the watts were nothing special, last climb was something like 5.7w/kg

 

[roundabout]

I honestly think McNulty yesterday was more suspicious than Van Aert today. Van Aert might have been even stronger, especially taking into account the rest of this Tour, but at least he was always known as an exceptional talent, has won a TdF mountain stage before and has been impressive this entire race. McNulty was completely anonymous this entire Tour before pulling off an all time great climbing performance. Those one off performances have always been the most suspicious to me and that was one of the craziest ones I can remember.

I am guessing using your reasoning McNulty now has a bit of a free pass to go crazy in the future since he has done it before, right?

 

[fbjim]

I mean the lesson here is that we can find significance in any data point depending on how we interpret them. If a rider we like has a good performance out of the blue and then falls off early the next day, we can say "Look, he's tired after going all out yesterday, he's not doping". If we don't like him, we can point and say "Oh look, he's bad again, that makes yesterday even weirder, he must have been doping".