Most overrated (good) rider in the peloton?

[Berniece]

I want to remind that there was a conviction here that Roglic was going to have a great Tour by doing the Giro-Tour, due to the fact that last year went well for Pogacar. Here, there was a mix of overestimating Roglic's ability to do the Giro-Tour and underestimating what Pogacar achieved.

What is it with Pogacar fans and ignoring things like crashes and illness. Did Roglic finish Giro with perfect prep on TDF like Pogacar did last year? No. So why make the comparison…

 

[Wyndbrook]

Yeah, Pogi was sick and crashed. 😁

Ah, but Pog described his symptoms, but then categorically stated he was not sick!

 

[Pozzovivo]

UAE Tour.

Most underrated stage race in the WT actually. You need to be good at flat ITT, crosswinds, Punchy finish (jais) and proper unipuerto (hafeet). Very strong sprint field and lots of good riders attend every year. Very good race apart from the location and all the politics around that.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Most underrated stage race in the WT actually. You need to be good at flat ITT, crosswinds, Punchy finish (jais) and proper unipuerto (hafeet). Very strong sprint field and lots of good riders attend every year. Very good race apart from the location and all the politics around that.

Strong sprint field, not so good GC field.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Marx Hirschi, Adam Yates, Matteo Jorgensen

A few fans getting carried away with Belgian pozzato after he won transitional stages in giro and tour, he didn't won a WT one-day race for 2.5 years. I saw some twitter users calling him a 'classics superstar '. My god

 

[stoempestoempestoempe]

I voted for Ayuso, but easily could have voted for Pidcock as well. It was a coin flip for me. I understand why people mention De Lie and Nys but they are more considered outsiders than favorites in bigger races.

 

[Red Rick]

Actually, how in seven hells could I forget about the most obviously overrated guy in the peloton, Isaac del Clown Toro

 

[Charlyghoul]

Nibali would have been the easiest one if still riding.

Saint nibbles ? ☹️

 

[Charlyghoul]

How is my boy Pidders overrated ? Look how you’ve massacred my boy.
World cyclo cross and mtb champ, Olympic mtb champ.
Tdf stage winner, Amstel winner, best descender since saint Nibali.
Multiple Classic winner.
How is Pidcock not in the world tour anymore ? Compare his overrated-ness with someone like Remco..well it boggles the mind

 

[Pozzovivo]

Nibali would have been the easiest one if still riding.

Yes, followed by Jens Voigt obviously.

 

[Charlyghoul]

Yes, followed by Jens Voigt obviously.

Nibali is the last rider before pog who can pretty much do it all, vastly underrated if anything

 

[Pozzovivo]

How is my boy Pidders overrated ? Look how you’ve massacred my boy.
World cyclo cross and mtb champ, Olympic mtb champ.
Tdf stage winner, Amstel winner, best descender since saint Nibali.
Multiple Classic winner.
How is Pidcock not in the world tour anymore ? Compare his overrated-ness with someone like Remco..well it boggles the mind

One of the five-six poster boys for this years Giro.

Finished 15th on GC. Not contending for a single stage wins. Cleaned up by Rubio and Prudhomme on the climbs. Even smart money like Patrick Broe thought he'd be in contention to win the Tour one day. Crazy stuff.

In all seriousness, it's because we all consume english-speaking media, and Pidcock is british.

 

[Pozzovivo]

Nibali is the last rider before pog who can pretty much do it all, vastly underrated if anything

Very versatile and opportunistic. Unlikeable but likable in a strange kind of way. Worse climber than Pozzovivo still won all GT's. Crazy.

 

[Charlyghoul]

One of the five-six poster boys for this years Giro.

Finished 15th on GC. Not contending for a single stage wins. Cleaned up by Rubio and Prudhomme on the climbs. Even smart money like Patrick Broe thought he'd be on contention to win the Tour one day. Crazy stuff.

In all seriousness, it's because we all consume english-speaking media, and Pidcock is british.

Winning the tour is a stretch sure.
We’ve seen worse riders come from nowhere and win it l, I think he has a pretty good palmares though compared to where (most) people see him. Now if there was a thread for Pidcock is the next Bernard Hinault then yes he would be overrated

 

[yaco]

One of the five-six poster boys for this years Giro.

Finished 15th on GC. Not contending for a single stage wins. Cleaned up by Rubio and Prudhomme on the climbs. Even smart money like Patrick Broe thought he'd be on contention to win the Tour one day. Crazy stuff.

In all seriousness, it's because we all consume english-speaking media, and Pidcock is british.

Think it was Johan bruyneel who thought Pidcock was a chance at the TDF.

 

[Charlyghoul]

Very versatile and opportunistic. Unlikeable but likable in a strange kind of way. Worse climber than Pozzovivo still won all GT's. Crazy.

Pure class on a bike the one and only shark

 

[Red Rick]

Nobody serious believes Pidcock is a GC rider.

 

[Charlyghoul]

Surprised Pidcock isn’t more of a sprinter than anything, I used to race against his dad in local races and he had a great sprint, he won quite a few lower level races from a sprint

 

[Pozzovivo]

Think it was Johan bruyneel who thought Pidcock was a chance at the TDF.

Patrick Broe got the question from Benji directly. And he really hesitated on it. Saying something like he could win the tour. I think it was in the Pidcock shock exit to q36.5 pod.

Did Bruyneel really say that? Goes to show that even the clever guys get rolled by media hype sometimes.

 

[tobydawq]

Surprised Pidcock isn’t more of a sprinter than anything, I used to race against his dad in local races and he had a great sprint, he won quite a few lower level races from a sprint

Have you seen the size of Pidcock?

 

[Pozzovivo]

Nobody serious believes Pidcock is a GC rider.

Patrick Broe, Johan Bruyneel, INEOS management to name a few.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Surprised Pidcock isn’t more of a sprinter than anything, I used to race against his dad in local races and he had a great sprint, he won quite a few lower level races from a sprint

Apparently he nearly broke a 5 km running record during some morning run. He's not a sprinter.

 

[Charlyghoul]

Have you seen the size of Pidcock?

His dad was small too, maybe even smaller than him, though a bit more stocky in fairness

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Yes, followed by Jens Voigt obviously.

Wait, who overrated Jens Voigt? The guy won almost 50 races in his 30s and 40s and finished 2nd in Liège.

 

[Pozzovivo]

Wait, who overrated Jens Voigt? The guy won almost 50 races in his 30s and 40s and finished 2nd in Liège.

His extremely (un)likeable personality has brought him the standing he has in pro cycling. The classic "fake good guy" who "couldn't believe" and "hadn't heard or seen anything" about the notorious doping culture on his own team. Liar who got away with it.

The definition of "use the most energy needlessly to gain TV-attention" through his entire career. Most support riders could do their work without showing every tv-viewer how hard they work. "Turning himself inside out" as the dull commentators were saying. Complete pretender.

Not a single big win in his career.

Those 50 wins you talk about are in which races again? Mostly backyard crits. Jakub mareczko stuff.

Yeah, so that's how I really feel...