Most overrated (good) rider in the peloton?

[Red Rick]

Pidcock seems to be consistently overrated by the bookmakers which indicates that he's overrated by the viewers, so I'd go with him.

I'd put this down to sportsbetting being a very British thing to do

 

[Netserk]

Hirschi also needs some love on this topic

Not good enough for this company.

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Maybe Carlos Rodriguez fits this idea now, given he was considered a near favorite for 3rd at the Tour last year at some point.

With Rodriguez, I think the issue is more that he seems to have randomly fallen off a cliff this year. As for the Tour, nobody would have expected him to be so much as in the hunt for the podium at the time had they known about the prospective lineup.

 

[Slavique Nuke]

Not good enough for this company.

Then you massively overestimate the results and performance of Pidcock and De Lie.

Why? Nobody rates him and recognises him as the 1.1 merchant.

That's De Lie.

 

[Squire]

Pidcock seems to be consistently overrated by the bookmakers which indicates that he's overrated by the viewers, so I'd go with him.

Haven't done any betting in the past few years, so you're probably right about the odds, but other than that and Pidcock's coach (and a couple of media outlets running with what the coach says), I don't really find him very overrated at all. On this forum nobody seems to expect anything from him, and people generally get surprised whenever he does something good. So at least in terms of where I get my cycling 'digest' from, I'd almost call him underrated.

And I agree with the sentiment that the riders listed are rated pretty fairly in general. Always thought Roglic's 2023 was a bit overrated due to him mostly doing Roglic things at the ends of not super hard stages (i.e. a bit lucky with the parcours in many races), but as mentioned here, he has enough detractors to balance it out.

 

[Salvarani]

With Rodriguez, I think the issue is more that he seems to have randomly fallen off a cliff this year. As for the Tour, nobody would have expected him to be so much as in the hunt for the podium at the time had they known about the prospective lineup.

O Gran Camino -> Bad weather.

P-N -> Bad weather.

I would wait and see how he goes in Catalunya. How will the weather be next week?

 

[seasidehiking]

De Lie is imho too soon yet to see where the journey goes. But for my Girmay. Never lived up after his ‘famous’ win. Now seems to get mentioned each time he rides in a top 10 position in a race.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Roglic can't even win this.

It's early days, he's sucking wheels and preparing to turn into Pantani at 250m(inutes?) to go

 

[Red Rick]

De Lie is imho too soon yet to see where the journey goes. But for my Girmay. Never lived up after his ‘famous’ win. Now seems to get mentioned each time he rides in a top 10 position in a race.

Girmay would have been a great shout almost 2 years ago, but now he's never talked about unless he's swerving in all directions on a compass.

 

[scribers]

I feel like roglic and remco are once again sprinting to the line together to this races finish

 

[Ilmaestro99]

If we include the rider's opinion of themselves, I could nominate basically any young belgian

 

[Rackham]

De Lie is imho too soon yet to see where the journey goes. But for my Girmay. Never lived up after his ‘famous’ win. Now seems to get mentioned each time he rides in a top 10 position in a race.

Girmay is certainly noteworthy.

He's in an interesting position considering Intermarché built the team around him & he gets a good train & leadout all the time. Teunissen is an excellent rider in that regard (I hope they're paying him well).

But he's just not particularly good at what the team seems to want from him (which is sprint for the win from the bunch).

He'd be better off IMO racing as a breakaway merchant/lone wolf & mugging a very reduced bunch in typical Vuelta or Giro transitional stages.

 

[DNP-Old]

I feel like roglic and remco are once again sprinting to the line together to this races finish

Nobody has voted for Remco though.

 

[Salvarani]

If we include the rider's opinion of themselves, I could nominate basically any young belgian

So true.

 

[Zoetemelk-fan]

Nice. A condescending thread.
Just what this forum needed.

 

[scribers]

Nobody has voted for Remco though.

Roglic wins again!

 

[Devil's Elbow]

I also want to say that Philipsen is very lucky that there is no (non-ancient version of) Petacchi, Cavendish, Greipel or Kittel around, because all four would have schooled him at the Tour. But then again every flavour-of-the-month best sprinter of the moment in the past 6 years has been overrated in terms of sprinting ability for the same reason.

 

[Alexandre B.]

Two of those guys (even if one of them is The Greatest)

 

[scribers]

Tactically, remco couldn't find his way out of wet paper bag

 

[Pantani_lives]

Jasper Philipsen. He'll never win a monument!

And now I'll watch my recording of Milano-Sanremo.

 

[seasidehiking]

Girmay would have been a great shout almost 2 years ago, but now he's never talked about unless he's swerving in all directions on a compass.

On Belgian tv…. Each time Girmay is in full view he gets mentioned. Its getting ridiculous, even yesterday. He was still there on the Poggio and got mentioned like he had a serious chance. Even a few podcasts at the start of the season always seem to find a need to mention him.

 

[seasidehiking]

Girmay is certainly noteworthy.

He's in an interesting position considering Intermarché built the team around him & he gets a good train & leadout all the time. Teunissen is an excellent rider in that regard (I hope they're paying him well).

But he's just not particularly good at what the team seems to want from him (which is sprint for the win from the bunch).

He'd be better off IMO racing as a breakaway merchant/lone wolf & mugging a very reduced bunch in typical Vuelta or Giro transitional stages.

You hit it 100% on the head.

 

[seasidehiking]

Tactically, remco couldn't find his way out of wet paper bag

I like Remco, but you are so right. His insight into racing is non-existent and doesnt seem to improve.

 

[Netserk]

Nice. A condescending thread.
Just what this forum needed.

I will do a poll for most underrated rider later. Something for everyone.

 

[Squire]

On Belgian tv…. Each time Girmay is in full view he gets mentioned. Its getting ridiculous, even yesterday. He was still there on the Poggio and got mentioned like he had a serious chance. Even a few podcasts at the start of the season always seem to find a need to mention him.

I feel like every rider that is easily identifiable gets an unproportional amount of mentions from commentators. Different skin colour helps in that regard (it was the same with Kevin Reza, who you'd normally have even less of a reason to mention than Girmay), and any national champion's jersey or otherwise very recognizable jersey also makes a difference.