Most Suspicious Performance Of The Last 5 Years

[GuyIncognito]

Shame 2009 isn't in the last 5 years, as Cancellara's Worlds in Switzerland was the one thing that managed to have both Horner and Froome beat for sheer unbelievability.

 

[bikenrrd]

Simon Gerrans - Milan San Remo 2012 and Liege-Bastogne-Liege 2014.
Both unbelievable performances from a very average rider.

 

[gillan1969]

I'm not one to cast aspersions on single anecdotes however I found it very peculiar that in crossing the line yesterday Sagan's chest/abdomen were virtually static...would need to watch again to state totally static...after battering the wee steep climb to get the gap and then presumably being flat out to the line...I had sort of thought he might be out of breath...it actually appeared as though he wasn't at all...and that was even in slow moption...I know he is good...but............any thoughts?

 

[The Hitch]

It's between some of the sky performances and horners vuelta ones. Individually it's Horner on angliru, beating contador 08 time.


But can't ignore the team aspect of some of those 2012 stages where sky would have like 5 riders in a group of 8 and of course Porte laughing at Quintana on ax 3 and then an even more gory version of the same movie with g Thomas joining the fun on PSM

 

[Red Rick]

1. Team Sky
2. Chris Horner, Vuelta 2013
3. Team Astana, Giro 2015
4. Philippe Gilbert, 2011 season
5. Juan Jose Cobo, Vuelta 2011

Honorable mentions go to Contador, Iglinsky, Nibali, Kristoff, Boonen, Tony Martin and Thor Hushovd

 

[Gung Ho Gun]

I had already forgotten about Hushovd!

 

[Irondan]

I can't disagree with any of the performances listed above but I would like to add that the entire Katusha team was flying all spring this year. It was either better nutrition, training, science and luck or ... a memorable doped performance by the lot of them. Zakerin happened to catch my eye as the silliest.

 

[thehog]

Froome is the most ridiculous rider in the last 5 years if not 25 years. Of course when the data hack occurred we found his heart rate barely gets out of bed! So not normal

I know I'm not a pro athlete, but I'm not a lazy fat turd either.

dope or no dope, those power numbers are so much higher that what I can do on threshold.
I know its worlds apart, but me doing 115 watts on my trainer with heart rate at 175 for me is good.
just puts it into perspective for me.

my suspicious list
- Horner's Vuelta
- Froome's 2012 TDF podium
- Gilbert's run of wins
- M. Rogers 2014 grand tour victories

Agreed. The absurdity of this performance wasn’t just the power numbers and accelerations but the fact Froome was 220km into a super fast road stage. He suffers no effects of having ridden 4.5 hours prior at record speed that day along with being in week 2 of the Tour. Of course there was the tailwind so that might explain why he was able to do what he did

 

[The Hitch]

Froome is the most ridiculous rider in the last 5 years if not 25 years. Of course when the data hack occurred we found his heart rate barely gets out of bed! So not normal

I know I'm not a pro athlete.

Well, without drugs, I don't know if Froome would be either.

 

[GuyIncognito]

Agreed. The absurdity of this performance wasn’t just the power numbers and accelerations but the fact Froome was 220km into a super fast road stage. He suffers no effects of having ridden 4.5 hours prior at record speed that day along with being in week 2 of the Tour. Of course there was the tailwind so that might explain why he was able to do what he did

Ah yes, the magical tailwind that is a tailwind for Froome, but a sidewind for the flags by the side of the road, and magically not a headwind when the road does a u-turn

 

[doolols]

And this is all assuming that the "leaked numbers" were correct, and real, and not just made up by someone with an agenda.

 

[thehog]

Agreed. The absurdity of this performance wasn’t just the power numbers and accelerations but the fact Froome was 220km into a super fast road stage. He suffers no effects of having ridden 4.5 hours prior at record speed that day along with being in week 2 of the Tour. Of course there was the tailwind so that might explain why he was able to do what he did

Ah yes, the magical tailwind that is a tailwind for Froome, but a sidewind for the flags by the side of the road, and magically not a headwind when the road does a u-turn

Yes that tailwind! The same one that Dan Martin said was actually a headwind on the last parts of the climb. The same parts Froome was attacking Quintana on but still a tailwind

 

[thehog]

Re:

And this is all assuming that the "leaked numbers" were correct, and real, and not just made up by someone with an agenda.

What agenda would that be?

To spend 37 hours making up fake number and to sync it exactly to video footage. That's some conspiracy theory you've got going there!

 

[doolols]

Re: Re:

To spend 37 hours making up fake number and to sync it exactly to video footage. That's some conspiracy theory you've got going there!

Indeed. But count how many hours you spend on here, engaging in discussion. I can totally see someone doing that (especially with some programming skills to help automate the process).

They spent some time superimposing the numbers onto the video, so creating the dataset to start with isn't such a big deal.

 

[thehog]

Re: Re:

To spend 37 hours making up fake number and to sync it exactly to video footage. That's some conspiracy theory you've got going there!

Indeed. But count how many hours you spend on here, engaging in discussion. I can totally see someone doing that (especially with some programming skills to help automate the process).

They spent some time superimposing the numbers onto the video, so creating the dataset to start with isn't such a big deal.

I've been banned for 6 months, so not a lot of hours. Sorry.

Writing a random post to your conspiracy theory is nothing compared to falsifying 5 separate datapoints to 6 hours of video which matched; the exact speed, heart rate and power froome performed that day.

Nice try.

Did the Twin Towers really fall down?

 

[Catwhoorg]

I would tip my hat to Horner, but his win is not in the least suspicious.

By releasing his profiles, we "know" he blood doped his way there. Just not enough to take to a court of law standard, sadly.

 

[Oufeh]

Re:

And this is all assuming that the "leaked numbers" were correct, and real, and not just made up by someone with an agenda.

For what I've seen, they look quite real ;-)

They spent some time superimposing the numbers onto the video, so creating the dataset to start with isn't such a big deal.

Data overlay took 10 mins using RaceRender...

 

[thehog]

Re: Re:

And this is all assuming that the "leaked numbers" were correct, and real, and not just made up by someone with an agenda.

For what I've seen, they look quite real ;-)

Haha! LOL! Exactly!

Did the police catchup with the datahackers?

 

[mrhender]

Re:

I can't disagree with any of the performances listed above but I would like to add that the entire Katusha team was flying all spring this year. It was either better nutrition, training, science and luck or ... a memorable doped performance by the lot of them. Zakerin happened to catch my eye as the silliest.

Their first half season was absolutely ridiculous.

Funny, because the sponsor was rumoured to back out and pre-season publically stated that all would depend on first half season results.

Again funny how a little "motivation" can light a spark

 

[staubsauger]

Unai Osa?

Once a Giro podium. Not much afterwards. One hit wonder produced by Fuentes!?

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Others that come to mind:

Vino Olympics
Arroyo's survival at the '12 Giro
Thor's TDF in Rainbow
Spilak in Swizterland
Mick Rodger's "If they didn't ban me with a positive, they're not going to ban me ever" string of performances post Clen.
Horner and Levi on Mt. Baldy

 

[SmorgCycle]

Re:

Did you mean Dumoulin?

I'm thinking he's alluding to another big TTer who warped into a GT monster in the 90s.

 

[I Love To Dope]

Re: Re:

To spend 37 hours making up fake number and to sync it exactly to video footage. That's some conspiracy theory you've got going there!

Indeed. But count how many hours you spend on here, engaging in discussion. I can totally see someone doing that (especially with some programming skills to help automate the process).

They spent some time superimposing the numbers onto the video, so creating the dataset to start with isn't such a big deal.

They don't have to overlap the image for each individual second. Once they figure out a sync point they just have to put the meters and clocks where they want and record/export. Probably took two minutes once they aligned the numbers and the video.

 

[I Love To Dope]

Innocent until proven guilty doesn't mean sit there amd think up ways evidence is false.

 

[Oufeh]

Re: Re:

They don't have to overlap the image for each individual second. Once they figure out a sync point they just have to put the meters and clocks where they want and record/export. Probably took two minutes once they aligned the numbers and the video.

That's it, you just need to align for example the image of the rider crossing the finish line with the decrease of his power, it takes one minute. Then watch key moments if attacks match the increase in power, if not adjust the offset +/- 1-2 seconds and it's done. All you need is a broadcast video without adds... and a power file.