Most Suspicious Performance Of The Last 5 Years

[The Hitch]

It was a good job oufeh. Many of us appreciate it. Keep fighting the good fight.

 

[thehog]

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Innocent until proven guilty doesn't mean sit there amd think up ways evidence is false.

It’s the “presumption” of innocence, not actual innocence.

 

[roundabout]

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Unai Osa?

Once a Giro podium. Not much afterwards. One hit wonder produced by Fuentes!?

He said 5 years, not 15.

Gilberto Simoni "winning" the long ITT in that Giro quite comfortably ahead of Olano and Honchar (Gonchar?) was a memorable performance as well.

 

[HSNHSN]

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(...), and probably the last 5 years of Valverde's continuous clean riding improvements over his former doped period...

This. Followed by one year of Gilbert and the Sky transformations.

Doping up to be up in the front for an entire year (or even several entire years) just beats doping up for one performance (where, indeed, Horner immediately springs to mind).

 

[classicomano]

Jelle Vanendert winning on Plateau de Beille.
Lieuwe Westra almost winning Paris Nice against TurboWiggo.
Thomas De Gendt coming 3rd in the Giro.
Matthew Goss winning anything.
Gilbert 2011 was even more glowing than his bleached hair during the Tour. Dead giveaway.

 

[Pentacycle]

Scarponi at the Giri of 2010 and 2011.

 

[RownhamHill]

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And this is all assuming that the "leaked numbers" were correct, and real, and not just made up by someone with an agenda.

I thought Froome alluded to the numbers on the video being real at some point of the TdF? I thought when he was talking about releasing data he said that some of his numbers were already out there and everyone had seen them, or some such. Sorry, can't be more specific than that as I wasn't paying too much attention, but I think it's acknowledged that the numbers are real.

 

[thehog]

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And this is all assuming that the "leaked numbers" were correct, and real, and not just made up by someone with an agenda.

I thought Froome alluded to the numbers on the video being real at some point of the TdF? I thought when he was talking about releasing data he said that some of his numbers were already out there and everyone had seen them, or some such. Sorry, can't be more specific than that as I wasn't paying too much attention, but I think it's acknowledged that the numbers are real.

Considering Brailsford said it was a ‘data hack’ he basically confirmed the numbers were real.

 

[Gregga]

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And this is all assuming that the "leaked numbers" were correct, and real, and not just made up by someone with an agenda.

I thought Froome alluded to the numbers on the video being real at some point of the TdF? I thought when he was talking about releasing data he said that some of his numbers were already out there and everyone had seen them, or some such. Sorry, can't be more specific than that as I wasn't paying too much attention, but I think it's acknowledged that the numbers are real.

Considering Brailsford said it was a ‘data hack’ he basically confirmed the numbers were real.

Vayer bragging today about the 2 millions views of his video https://twitter.com/festinaboy/status/648876647224057858, even if he often acts as a clown, he couldn't say that if the datas weren't true

 

[Digger]

froome ventoux

 

[Gregga]

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froome ventoux

with Froome at Planche des belles filles, agreed.

 

[SeriousSam]

it was pretty windy at the ventoux that day tho

 

[roundabout]

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froome ventoux

with Froome at Planche des belles filles, agreed.

Eh, he couldn't even drop Taaramäe until the final corner.

 

[Gregga]

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froome ventoux

with Froome at Planche des belles filles, agreed.

Eh, he couldn't even drop Taaramäe until the final corner.

But crushed everyone on the last 20% section after pulling 2km for Wiggins !

 

[SeriousSam]

IIRC the commentators were really surprised Evans didn't win. I suppose the full extent of the Dawg's powers weren't yet clear.

 

[PremierAndrew]

Surprised people are saying Froome's 2013 Tour was more suspicious than his 2011 Vuelta.

A dominant performance in a 3 week stage race by a rider who had finished runner up the previous year (and was the strongest), as well as being the dominant rider of stage races leading up to that as well. More suspicious than a performance out of nowhere by a rider who had no contract for the following season and had shown nothing in his career to warrant one before suddenly finishing runner up despite being a dom for half the race?

 

[SeriousSam]

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Surprised people are saying Froome's 2013 Tour was more suspicious than his 2011 Vuelta.

A dominant performance in a 3 week stage race by a rider who had finished runner up the previous year (and was the strongest), as well as being the dominant rider of stage races leading up to that as well. More suspicious than a performance out of nowhere by a rider who had no contract for the following season and had shown nothing in his career to warrant one before suddenly finishing runner up despite being a dom for half the race?

I think you're conflating suspicious with surprising. Armstrong's 2004 Alpe TT wasn't surprising in the least, but very suspicious.

 

[The Hitch]

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Surprised people are saying Froome's 2013 Tour was more suspicious than his 2011 Vuelta.

A dominant performance in a 3 week stage race by a rider who had finished runner up the previous year (and was the strongest), as well as being the dominant rider of stage races leading up to that as well. More suspicious than a performance out of nowhere by a rider who had no contract for the following season and had shown nothing in his career to warrant one before suddenly finishing runner up despite being a dom for half the race?

Well, that's like saying that Armstrong's 1999 Tour was more suspicious than his 2005 Tour.

Both were as suspicious imo. The fact that pre 1998 he was not a GT rider, is something that never disapears, no matter how many times you win.

 

[harryh]

Quintana dropping Froome like a stone at the end of the third week in TdF2013 and TdF2015.

 

[thehog]

Froome, Romandie 2014, high on Prednisone, obliterating the field, going full *** with a Cookson approved get out of jail card.

Froome, 2014, chasing the dragon, freebasing salbutamol.

 

[oldcrank]

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Front runner for Post Of The Year.
Nice to read someone who wasn't
fooled by Phil Ligget's ''dancing on
his pedals.''

 

[thehog]

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Front runner for Post Of The Year.
Nice to read someone who wasn't
fooled by Phil Ligget's ''dancing on
his pedals.''

As distinct from sitting in your saddle and attacking up Ventoux?

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Fhrooms easy

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Porte's MTT performance up Eze in '13 was pretty ridiculous.

 

[Rollthedice]

Frooome on Ventoux left me speachless, staring at the TV screen like they just announced that an extraterrestrial alien invasion is underway. On the other hand Dumoulin dropping all including the aforementioned winner of the Anatomic Joke Race on some 20% gradients in Vuelta made me laugh for a good 15 minutes. In between there's Hornerito's Angliru, so incomprehensible that even his doper blood profile didn't quite explain how it was possible.