Most Suspicious Performance Of The Last 5 Years

[Frankschleck]

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I think it makes the list.

Look at the names he's outclassed: Bardet, Valverde, Contador, Froome, Porte, Martin. We're talking the absolute elite climbers, all coming into top form. It's June. And it's Astana. Fuglsang has always been quality - but not ride the elite climbers off his wheel quality.

It's in the list for sure.

The thing is tho, that Fuglsang probaly always has been a better climber than martin to a certain extent, while you could argue that with the energi spent by froome, porte , and valverde, he might just have been lucky. And then again contador was just **** in this race That makes it a bit more realistic for me, but yeah astana is a problem, and is the best argument against him because the chances are the whole astana team is loaded with dope

Yeah, true enough.

But there's also stage 6 to consider. I think he was undoubtedly the second best climber in the race.

And if you go back to pre-race speculations, who was seriously putting Fuglsang up there with riders like Bardet, Valverde, Froome et al? In hindsight, one could easily imagine him finishing in the top group maybe even a few times - then losing a little bit on other days.

But riding them all off his wheel? Nope, that really is suss.

He did get dropped by Aru in the race, so i hope it is all just self confidence after finally getting a win. We have to remember he was also one of the 5 strongest riders in the olympics last year so he has showed form on this level before, and while fromme, valverde and maybe bardet are normally better climbers than him, none of them really looked in top top form and valverde and froome spent to much energy in some of the stages. With all that being said, i stile believe he doped, mainly because he didn't seemed troubled at all after crossing the finish line after such a big effort. But i wouldn't say that the result of the dauphine is arguement against him, that it is not that big a wildshot, he was still with in by the bookmakers as the 7th most likely rider to win before the race,

 

[Carstenbf]

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If not Fuglsang then in your opinion what's more suspicious?

Hesjedal 2012 Giro.Wiggins 2012 Tour. Froome 2013 Tour. Astana/Contador 2015 Giro. Porte 2015 Tour. Dumoulin 2017 Giro. Etc, etc.

Look it's procycling. I suspect all of them. Having been through Riis and Rasmussen, I'm not about to declare Fuglsang's innocence am I? In retrospect I probably shouldn't have posted. Guess I got triggered by him being compared to the apparition that was Ventoux 2013, when I almost fell off my chair laughing while watching. :razz:

 

[Guybrush]

sorry i'm late... but what's the deal with the Benoot kid? i thought he was a more oriented classic rider despite having a good results at Algarve, but Dauphine is a high mountain stage race. Don't get me wrong, it wasn't highly suspicious, want to hear your opinion

 

[portugal11]

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If not Fuglsang then in your opinion what's more suspicious?

Hesjedal 2012 Giro.Wiggins 2012 Tour. Froome 2013 Tour. Astana/Contador 2015 Giro. Porte 2015 Tour. Dumoulin 2017 Giro. Etc, etc.

Look it's procycling. I suspect all of them. Having been through Riis and Rasmussen, I'm not about to declare Fuglsang's innocence am I? In retrospect I probably shouldn't have posted. Guess I got triggered by him being compared to the apparition that was Ventoux 2013, when I almost fell off my chair laughing while watching. :razz:

Contador in 2015 giro? Looooool

 

[Frankschleck]

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If not Fuglsang then in your opinion what's more suspicious?

Hesjedal 2012 Giro.Wiggins 2012 Tour. Froome 2013 Tour. Astana/Contador 2015 Giro. Porte 2015 Tour. Dumoulin 2017 Giro. Etc, etc.

Look it's procycling. I suspect all of them. Having been through Riis and Rasmussen, I'm not about to declare Fuglsang's innocence am I? In retrospect I probably shouldn't have posted. Guess I got triggered by him being compared to the apparition that was Ventoux 2013, when I almost fell off my chair laughing while watching. :razz:

Contador in 2015 giro? Looooool

Contador is of course a doper, but yeah 2015 is a bad example

 

[Singer01]

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If not Fuglsang then in your opinion what's more suspicious?

Hesjedal 2012 Giro.Wiggins 2012 Tour. Froome 2013 Tour. Astana/Contador 2015 Giro. Porte 2015 Tour. Dumoulin 2017 Giro. Etc, etc.

Look it's procycling. I suspect all of them. Having been through Riis and Rasmussen, I'm not about to declare Fuglsang's innocence am I? In retrospect I probably shouldn't have posted. Guess I got triggered by him being compared to the apparition that was Ventoux 2013, when I almost fell off my chair laughing while watching. :razz:

Contador in 2015 giro? Looooool

Contador is of course a doper, but yeah 2015 is a bad example

I think there is a lot suspicious about that performance, being immense in the TT and the Motirolo stage, but then garbage on the Finestre.

 

[Frankschleck]

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If not Fuglsang then in your opinion what's more suspicious?

Hesjedal 2012 Giro.Wiggins 2012 Tour. Froome 2013 Tour. Astana/Contador 2015 Giro. Porte 2015 Tour. Dumoulin 2017 Giro. Etc, etc.

Look it's procycling. I suspect all of them. Having been through Riis and Rasmussen, I'm not about to declare Fuglsang's innocence am I? In retrospect I probably shouldn't have posted. Guess I got triggered by him being compared to the apparition that was Ventoux 2013, when I almost fell off my chair laughing while watching. :razz:

Contador in 2015 giro? Looooool

Contador is of course a doper, but yeah 2015 is a bad example

I think there is a lot suspicious about that performance, being immense in the TT and the Motirolo stage, but then garbage on the Finestre.

yeah of course there is, i would just say with contador, there are a lot even more unrealistic preformances, so i don't really see him as suscpisious, i more see it as a fact that he is doped, after all, he has been caught once.

 

[portugal11]

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If not Fuglsang then in your opinion what's more suspicious?

Hesjedal 2012 Giro.Wiggins 2012 Tour. Froome 2013 Tour. Astana/Contador 2015 Giro. Porte 2015 Tour. Dumoulin 2017 Giro. Etc, etc.

Look it's procycling. I suspect all of them. Having been through Riis and Rasmussen, I'm not about to declare Fuglsang's innocence am I? In retrospect I probably shouldn't have posted. Guess I got triggered by him being compared to the apparition that was Ventoux 2013, when I almost fell off my chair laughing while watching. :razz:

Contador in 2015 giro? Looooool

Contador is of course a doper, but yeah 2015 is a bad example

Everybody is...

 

[portugal11]

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Singer01"]

If not Fuglsang then in your opinion what's more suspicious?

Hesjedal 2012 Giro.Wiggins 2012 Tour. Froome 2013 Tour. Astana/Contador 2015 Giro. Porte 2015 Tour. Dumoulin 2017 Giro. Etc, etc.

Look it's procycling. I suspect all of them. Having been through Riis and Rasmussen, I'm not about to declare Fuglsang's innocence am I? In retrospect I probably shouldn't have posted. Guess I got triggered by him being compared to the apparition that was Ventoux 2013, when I almost fell off my chair laughing while watching. :razz:

Contador in 2015 giro? Looooool

Contador is of course a doper, but yeah 2015 is a bad example

I think there is a lot suspicious about that performance, being immense in the TT and the Motirolo stage, but then garbage on the Finestre.[/quote]

yeah of course there is, i would just say with contador, there are a lot even more unrealistic preformances, so i don't really see him as suscpisious, i more see it as a fact that he is doped, after all, he has been caught once.[/quote]
They only "catch" who they want... Contador was caught only because wiggins would never win a tour against contador. Yeah I really beleive sky paid a lot to uci just to contador was suspended.

 

[Frankschleck]

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Singer01"]

If not Fuglsang then in your opinion what's more suspicious?

Hesjedal 2012 Giro.Wiggins 2012 Tour. Froome 2013 Tour. Astana/Contador 2015 Giro. Porte 2015 Tour. Dumoulin 2017 Giro. Etc, etc.

Look it's procycling. I suspect all of them. Having been through Riis and Rasmussen, I'm not about to declare Fuglsang's innocence am I? In retrospect I probably shouldn't have posted. Guess I got triggered by him being compared to the apparition that was Ventoux 2013, when I almost fell off my chair laughing while watching. :razz:

Contador in 2015 giro? Looooool

Contador is of course a doper, but yeah 2015 is a bad example

I think there is a lot suspicious about that performance, being immense in the TT and the Motirolo stage, but then garbage on the Finestre.

yeah of course there is, i would just say with contador, there are a lot even more unrealistic preformances, so i don't really see him as suscpisious, i more see it as a fact that he is doped, after all, he has been caught once.[/quote]
They only "catch" who they want... Contador was caught only because wiggins would never win a tour against contador. Yeah I really beleive sky paid a lot to uci just to contador was suspended.[/quote]

agreed, i tend to think that to. Wiggins and froome are defiantly the biggest jokes in modern cycling, transformed one to day to the other.

 

[King Boonen]

My FTP and VO2 max is up there

 

[Irondan]

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My FTP and VO2 max is up there

The 300km jaunts up and over the mountains of Scotland on a fixie have always been highly suspicious, it's just that nobody has said anything up till now...

 

[King Boonen]

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My FTP and VO2 max is up there

The 300km jaunts up and over the mountains of Scotland on a fixie have always been highly suspicious, it's just that nobody has said anything up till now...

Yeah, but I'm usually accusing of being a dope, not using it

 

[Irondan]

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My FTP and VO2 max is up there

The 300km jaunts up and over the mountains of Scotland on a fixie have always been highly suspicious, it's just that nobody has said anything up till now...

Yeah, but I'm usually accusing of being a dope, not using it

At least it's in the same conversation.

 

[aphronesis]

You should get him over to do the STP on a fixed.

 

[Irondan]

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You should get him over to do the STP on a fixed.

I'd be real suspicious of anyone completing the STP on a fixie, especially if they did it in one day.

 

[aphronesis]

Didn't ride a fixed in those days, but a friend says he pulled it out with a few others. I've done that distance on coast 1 with a fixed, so it seems reasonable. Falls more into KB's dopes not dope category by most lights.

 

[King Boonen]

Is that Seattle to Portland? I'd be up for that on a fixed wheel, looks fun

We should probably stop the off-topic chat now though before we get into trouble...

 

[Irondan]

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Is that Seattle to Portland? I'd be up for that on a fixed wheel, looks fun

We should probably stop the off-topic chat now though before we get into trouble...

Yes, Seattle to Portland. I'd like to see you do it, 200 miles with I don't even know how much climbing but It's a lot and you can either do it in one or two days.

Well worth the trip from your neck of the woods.

Okay, no more off-topic chatter, sorry KB.

 

[pastronef]

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Singer01"]

If not Fuglsang then in your opinion what's more suspicious?

Hesjedal 2012 Giro.Wiggins 2012 Tour. Froome 2013 Tour. Astana/Contador 2015 Giro. Porte 2015 Tour. Dumoulin 2017 Giro. Etc, etc.

Look it's procycling. I suspect all of them. Having been through Riis and Rasmussen, I'm not about to declare Fuglsang's innocence am I? In retrospect I probably shouldn't have posted. Guess I got triggered by him being compared to the apparition that was Ventoux 2013, when I almost fell off my chair laughing while watching. :razz:

Contador in 2015 giro? Looooool

Contador is of course a doper, but yeah 2015 is a bad example

I think there is a lot suspicious about that performance, being immense in the TT and the Motirolo stage, but then garbage on the Finestre.

yeah of course there is, i would just say with contador, there are a lot even more unrealistic preformances, so i don't really see him as suscpisious, i more see it as a fact that he is doped, after all, he has been caught once.[/quote]
They only "catch" who they want... Contador was caught only because wiggins would never win a tour against contador. Yeah I really beleive sky paid a lot to uci just to contador was suspended.[/quote]

ahahahhah ffs.
Uci paid the UCI in 2010 to make him positive, and suspend him for the 2012 Tour! hahaha oh dear you Contador fans are really funny

 

[portugal11]

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ahahahhah ffs.
Uci paid the UCI in 2010 to make him positive, and suspend him for the 2012 Tour! hahaha oh dear you Contador fans are really funny[/quote]
Everyone is a doper... froome is, contador is, wiggins is,etc so why was only contador caught?

 

[silvergrenade]

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ahahahhah ffs.
Uci paid the UCI in 2010 to make him positive, and suspend him for the 2012 Tour! hahaha oh dear you Contador fans are really funny

Everyone is a doper... froome is, contador is, wiggins is,etc so why was only contador caught?[/quote]
Because if you are smart, you don't get caught.
It's simple really!
Oh yeah, smart and avoiding bad meat. :lol:

 

[tantocomo]

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Honestly I don't anything is going to beat that Landis performance.

Jeepers, even after he dismounts he's still raging full on. He could probably have done it all again he's that pumped up.

Just a quick question that I don't think requires its own thread... Would Landis being supercharged also help him descending? I imagine being more alert or even just more comfortable is going to make a massive difference, even if it can't be measured so easily.

 

[Cycle Chic]

Steve Cummings winning British Nationals in both events - ridiculous !!

 

[Bolder]

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Steve Cummings winning British Nationals in both events - ridiculous !!

I wondered in which thread this topic would end up...Cummings is kind of like a poor man's Chris Horner, down to the dome...except unlike Horner, he had no results to speak of until age 35. Then last year...boom! Winning GT stages, animating breaks...