Re: Re:
The rim-based motors are not really realistic for reasons already explained in this thread. If we were to allow for the system that was explained in the video by Mr. Salden one wouldn't expect the bike moving or the wheel turning on its own as that system seems to rely largely not on motor a such but rather illegally optimizing the energy that is put through the crank by the rider himself.
sniper said:we had.GJB123 said:...
I don't see the crank turning and I thought we had covered the fact that hub-motors are very visible.
but we've also covered the fact that a host of alternative wheel-based systems have become available in recent years. With sky's budget you'll agree nothing is beyond reach.
The fact that we didn't know how Lance cheated, didn't mean he wasn't cheating.
That said, i agree that this bit of footage is not very compelling. But as maxiton and others have pointed out, the state of the sport is such that suspicion is totally warranted.
"Better to see a motor when there isn't one, then to not see a motor when there is one."
(i think i'm quoting maxiton here)
correct me if wrong: the fact that this hasn't happened yet I think can be taken to suggest two things:Merckx index said:dwyatt said:It was meant as a joke, however at least with motors no-one is risking their health![]()
Actually, they can be very dangerous. It's been pointed out that when the bottom bracket is opened to insert the motor, then resealed, it's structurally weakened, and is at risk for breaking during the race and causing a horrific accident.
1. (hubbased) motordoping isn't very widespread (yet)
2. the peloton has already moved on from hub-based systems or has found alternative ways to hide them
The rim-based motors are not really realistic for reasons already explained in this thread. If we were to allow for the system that was explained in the video by Mr. Salden one wouldn't expect the bike moving or the wheel turning on its own as that system seems to rely largely not on motor a such but rather illegally optimizing the energy that is put through the crank by the rider himself.