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Koronin said:
That's not a rating most people don't know about and is one that movies don't get released to theaters with or at least not broadly, at best it can get a very limited release.
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Most movies these days are edited to avoid an R rating because its usually commercial suicide unless the director is Tarantino or Von Trier, someone who has a cult following and a devoted audience. They used to have an X rating as well especially when adult movies used to be shown at the cinema then they all moved to VCR anyway where the ratings system was different. X movies got banned for cinema release and the R rating took over which was much less explicit for cinema releases.
 
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movingtarget said:
Most movies these days are edited to avoid an R rating because its usually commercial suicide unless the director is Tarantino or Von Trier, someone who has a cult following and a devoted audience. They used to have an X rating as well especially when adult movies used to be shown at the cinema then they all moved to VCR anyway where the ratings system was different. X movies got banned for cinema release and the R rating took over which was much less explicit for cinema releases.
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Or is a Deadpool movie or is an action movie. The Expendable movies are rated R. Both Deadpool movies and Logan did just fine with R ratings. The reason for not many R rated movies outside of very specific genres is Disney has eaten up most of the studios and they rarely release R rated movies under any of the other studio names anymore.
 
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Or is a Deadpool movie or is an action movie. The Expendable movies are rated R. Both Deadpool movies and Logan did just fine with R ratings. The reason for not many R rated movies outside of very specific genres is Disney has eaten up most of the studios and they rarely release R rated movies under any of the other studio names anymore.
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Yes but those movies are franchise movies so they will do well commercially anyway. A bit different for independent movies or smaller budgets movies when they lose their teenage audience. R rated movies are usually in the horror genre now as you say they are becoming rarer. Or the real independent low budget movies that never play at multiplexes also get R ratings sometimes, they later turn up on DVD if they are lucky but even DVD releases are dying up now, you don't have the same selection you used to have and they disappear quickly if they don't sell much.
 
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Yes but those movies are franchise movies so they will do well commercially anyway. A bit different for independent movies or smaller budgets movies when they lose their teenage audience. R rated movies are usually in the horror genre now as you say they are becoming rarer. Or the real independent low budget movies that never play at multiplexes also get R ratings sometimes, they later turn up on DVD if they are lucky but even DVD releases are dying up now, you don't have the same selection you used to have and they disappear quickly if they don't sell much.
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Yes it's basically 3 genres that still get R ratings, action, horror and the occasional Sci-Fi. Thing is, Sci-Fi usually doesn't need an R rating for it to be a good Sci-Fi movie, you need a good script. I do agree that there aren't nearly as many as there used to be. Now pre early 80's there were more because stuff that would be PG-13 either was dropped to PG (think Star Wars) or upped to R. That was part of why the PG-13 rating came in.
 
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Yes it's basically 3 genres that still get R ratings, action, horror and the occasional Sci-Fi. Thing is, Sci-Fi usually doesn't need an R rating for it to be a good Sci-Fi movie, you need a good script. I do agree that there aren't nearly as many as there used to be. Now pre early 80's there were more because stuff that would be PG-13 either was dropped to PG (think Star Wars) or upped to R. That was part of why the PG-13 rating came in.
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Yes I think originally it was only G rating M and R then they brought in PG and changed M to MA. Actually some of the MA rated movies now probably would have been R ratings in the 70s and 80s.
 
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movingtarget said:
Most movies these days are edited to avoid an R rating because its usually commercial suicide unless the director is Tarantino or Von Trier, someone who has a cult following and a devoted audience. They used to have an X rating as well especially when adult movies used to be shown at the cinema then they all moved to VCR anyway where the ratings system was different. X movies got banned for cinema release and the R rating took over which was much less explicit for cinema releases.
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This makes me think of that "blue" movie Jack Lemmon had to go see in a theater of questionable repute in Save the Tiger, what was the name of it? Danish something or other, I can't remember...

Anyway, didn't know porn movies were called blue movies back then, definitely rated X.
 
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This makes me think of that "blue" movie Jack Lemmon had to go see in a theater of questionable repute in Save the Tiger, what was the name of it? Danish something or other, I can't remember...

Anyway, didn't know porn movies were called blue movies back then, definitely rated X.
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The old X rating is now NC-17.

The current ratings are:
G, PG, PG-13, R, and NC-17

Here's a link that has the ratings more explained.

Motion Picture Association film rating system - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org
 
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movingtarget said:
Australia is different but the ratings are roughly equivalent to the American ones : we have G, PG, M, MA, R, and X for non cinema adult releases.
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You do have a different system. In the US there is a reason they couldn't use X for adult releases and it has something to do with not being able to patent it for rating or some such thing. It's been like 20 years since I had that film class in college that actually taught all this stuff. That's why it's NC-17.
 
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You do have a different system. In the US there is a reason they couldn't use X for adult releases and it has something to do with not being able to patent it for rating or some such thing. It's been like 20 years since I had that film class in college that actually taught all this stuff. That's why it's NC-17.
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I had to look it up... you're right that the MPAA has had to fine-tune their ratings over the years due to changing public tastes, like you were saying, going from rated X to rated NC-17, for example. But I think movingtarget and I were specifically talking about adult entertainment movies (porn) which had their own adult theaters once upon a time... the MPAA won't even touch porn movies because of various lewdness and obscenity laws. So the porn industry has just sort of haphazardly slapped rated X (or even XXX) on their movies, I think if you mention rated X nowadays most people will think you're talking about porn. At least that is where I was coming from. Speaking of which...

Has anyone here seen Deep Throat? I have not but I feel like I should because it, and Linda Lovelace, are so legendary. It's funny to think Deep Throat was popular with the mainstream audience back in the 70s, it even earned a review from Roger Ebert. How times have changed.
 
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The Crazies (1973) early movie from horror director George Romero and a mediocre one. Low budget and pretty dull even if the original idea wasn't a bad one. A small town gets infected with a military bio-weapon and the army try to contain the mess. One of his forgotten movies for good reasons. Maybe the remake was better, it couldn't have been any worse............
 
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This makes me think of that "blue" movie Jack Lemmon had to go see in a theater of questionable repute in Save the Tiger, what was the name of it? Danish something or other, I can't remember...

Anyway, didn't know porn movies were called blue movies back then, definitely rated X.
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'blue movies'

haven't heard that term used in a long. long time
 
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Rewatched Murder on the Orient Express (1974) again, I was in the mood for trains and some snow. Each time I pick up something new, this time it was watching Ingrid Bergman's facial expressions while she was being interviewed by Albert Finney. They were practically cheek to cheek, I nearly burst out laughing at the way Bergman was looking and staring at Finney as though she was studying his bushy eyebrows and other facial features. How Finney didn't lose it is beyond me.
 
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movingtarget said:
Moneyball (2011) Movie about number crunching in sports, team building and performance analysis, a lot more entertaining than it sounds. Brad Pitt, Jonah Hill and Philip Seymour Hoffman all in good form.
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I just finished watching this, it's quite good. On the surface it's a bit reminiscent of Bull Durham and Major League, but its approach differs in that it highlights the cold, and cold-hearted, business side of probably every professional sport out there. Brad Pitt is not my fave because he tends to hog the spotlight, but I really enjoyed Philip Seymour Hoffman and Jonah Hill.

Anyhoo, for fans of any sport I would definitely recommend it, that is if you want to know about the ugly underbelly that makes professional sports, well, professional. I thought it was interesting, at any rate.
 
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I liked Moneyball... as did my son who liked the nerdy guy of course... but he didn't like the ending. :D
The way I remember it the editing was pretty good, no over-emotional lingering which is so often the case with sport movies, the tempo seemed original and served the purpose to tell this specific story, and gave it the slightly ironic touch which in my eyes puts it above most "similar" stories.

One film I recently watched and liked a lot: Our souls at night. Wow, Robert Redford. So far I always liked him best (I mean, I actually always liked him...) in the Electric Rider, but this one may beat it. (Funnily the Electric Rider was the last film before he made with Jane Fonda.) Here he just quietly captured every nuance. Jane Fonda was also great.
Well, the story of two lonely old people connecting and proceeding their lives might not sound too exciting and there are some clichés in the plot, but the way it's told, with dialogues and camera easy and spot on, and getting alive through its actors, it never bothered me but instead felt genuine and touching.
But it's probably not for everyone...
 
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