Museeuw calls for doping confessions

[Mrs John Murphy]

There are confessions and then there are partial confessions and then there are confessions that claim to be confessions but which reveal nothing.

If you are in the last two categories and claiming to be in the first then you deserve any flack that comes your way.

 

[wannab]

"Doping nemen, hoorde er voor iedereen bij. Na verloop van tijd ging het zelfs bij je levensstijl horen"

"Of je sprong op de trein, of je bleef op het perron staan. Iedereen wist het van mekaar en toch werd met geen woord over gerept. Die hypocriete houding doet ons nu de das om."

etc. source

Note: I am a bad translator

Everyone was part of it, after a while it became a lifestyle.

You either jumped on the train, or were left behind. Everyone knew about each other but no one talked about it. This hypocritical attitude now harms us.

The only way to escape this deadly spiral is to break the silence

If all my ex colleagues would also open up, we'd get a long way

If the Armstrong case was ment to settle with the doping years, then this was at least good for something.

Because of the widespread doping use, the playing field was level

If we all rode completely clean, I'd still be the king of one day races in that time, and Armstrong still would have won 7 tours


I highly doubt the bolded part hehe .. ironically as it is, due to the individual nature of doping this can't just be "assumed", it's just another justification of a doper's mind. Also, not everyone wishes to go as far as another. Left aside that some people (hint la) just had a better program all together (more expensive, more advanced, inside knowledge, protected etc.).

This statement alone confirms to me that he (still) is a hypocrite, aside the fact that he just disproved his "only at the end of my career" story.

I'm glad he is saying this but he's still a 2 face to me, if he never got caught would he still say this? It's also easy to say this NOW, where was he a few years ago?

 

[Flux Capacity]

Hmm, what's going on with his hair? Plugs?

 

[Cycle Chic]

nyvelocity tweets

NY Velocity tweets are hilarious...

nyvelocity‏@nyvelocity

It's been 20 minutes and no one new's confessed. WTF.



7mnyvelocity‏@nyvelocity
The UCI leaders are the herpes of sport's organizers, they just keep coming back.

 

[D-Queued]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/museeuw-calls-for-doping-confessions-from-past-riders

Thank you Johan.

The ball keeps on rolling. Some good days.

Huge step. And, thank you JM.

Two things:

1. This could be the catalyst for Kimmage's suggestion to pursue a full recounting. It may not be complete (as some posters have noted above), but it is a very open admission that appears to fully support further conversation and detail.

2. It is interesting to consider that this may actually be to Lance's benefit, as it helps with the 'everyone did it' defense/diminishment.

NOT (!) wanting to either thread-jack, attract the Loonies, or undermine Museeuw's major step, but is it possible that Lance could have encouraged this?

Dave.

 

[amp300]

NY Velocity tweets are hilarious...

nyvelocity‏@nyvelocity

It's been 20 minutes and no one new's confessed. WTF.



7mnyvelocity‏@nyvelocity
The UCI leaders are the herpes of sport's organizers, they just keep coming back.

These guys and RR actually make me want to join twitter.

 

[classicomano]

Hmm, what's going on with his hair? Plugs?

Yeah its fake, I guess hes got another thing to fess up to now

 

[Ninety5rpm]

“In the 80s and 90s everyone knew what each other was doing but never said a word about doping. Using doping was something everyone did. Eventually it became a part of your lifestyle."

In the 80s and 90s. Everyone.

So that includes Lemond, yes?

 

[roundabout]

more like "I've been doping already in the 80's."

 

[MacRoadie]

In the 80s and 90s. Everyone.

So that includes Lemond, yes?

Can't believe it took four pages and 33 posts to get to this...

 

[Maxiton]

Hmm, what's going on with his hair? Plugs?

Scalp doping. He just can't stop.

In the 80s and 90s. Everyone.

So that includes Lemond, yes?

For sure, by implication. But still nothing that points the finger at him directly.

 

[Benotti69]

Museeuw is an idiot until he breaks omerta. Until he goes to WADA and gives a full confession to his doping, doctors and suppliers he is doing more damage limitation for Armsrong and Bruyneel.

It was a lifestyle, what like in a magazine Johan? or in a junkies den?

It was a level playng field! We hear this BS from Armstrong bots all the time!

Give me a break Museeuw is an idiot and trying to help Bruyneel, Riis and Armstrong.

 

[luckyboy]

These guys and RR actually make me want to join twitter.

Yeah there's so many news bits and interesting discussions you pick up if you join. Don't know how I did without it to be honest.

 

[Benotti69]

Yeah there's so many news bits and interesting discussions you pick up if you join. Don't know how I did without it to be honest.

while checking out RR on twitter, dont forget this lady

https://twitter.com/cyclingfansanon

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Can't believe it took four pages and 33 posts to get to this...

You should change 10 post per page option

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Props to him for stating this, and hopefully it will get the ball rolling on others to do the same. But he really needs to talk to WADA and NADO, and directly call other cyclists and pressure them to do the same, as much as make a press statement.

I for one don't believe cycling is cleaner than ever. Cleaner than it was in his career? Definitely. But 100% clean? No way.

 

[Arnout]

Who is RR on twitter?

 

[amp300]

https://twitter.com/TheRaceRadio

 

[Pantani_lives]

This isn't a real confession. He's saying: "Everybody did it. Let's act as if nothing happened, not disqualify anyone and not fire any of the doctors and team leaders that were involved." It's the Lefevere philosophy.

And he certainly isn't the first: Manzano, Simeoni etc.

 

[ElChingon]

I wouldn't necessarily call it a victory, the guy has a line of bike frames and getting back in the headlines as a anti-doping crusader is questionable, he's also out of the Pro-Scene because of his admission. Outing the Omerta might let him back in if the powers that be are no longer there, he wants back in badly.

Somebody brought up Lemond but with Museeuw's call we should actually be bringing up Patrick Lefévère and then connect the dots down to none other than Tom Boonen.

 

[Anonymous]

I wouldn't necessarily call it a victory, the guy has a line of bike frames and getting back in the headlines as a anti-doping crusader is questionable, he's also out of the Pro-Scene because of his admission. Outing the Omerta might let him back in if the powers that be are no longer there, he wants back in badly.

Somebody brought up Lemond but with Museeuw's call we should actually be bringing up Patrick Lefévère and then connect the dots down to none other than Tom Boonen.

Bingo.....

 

[spetsa]

Museeuw is an idiot until he breaks omerta. Until he goes to WADA and gives a full confession to his doping, doctors and suppliers he is doing more damage limitation for Armsrong and Bruyneel.

It was a lifestyle, what like in a magazine Johan? or in a junkies den?

It was a level playng field! We hear this BS from Armstrong bots all the time!

Give me a break Museeuw is an idiot and trying to help Bruyneel, Riis and Armstrong.

+1
I doubt he has called up his buddy Bruyneel and encouraged him to come clean. I will never forget the two of them walking around, shoulder to shoulder at the worlds all weekend shortly after Museeuw was accused of buying Aranesp and kept out of the race. We may very well be hearing more about that drug in the near future. It was very obvious that neither gave a crap what anyone thought.

 

[benzwire]

Scalp doping. He just can't stop.

I believe Valverde is guilty of this as well

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

Props to him for stating this, and hopefully it will get the ball rolling on others to do the same. But he really needs to talk to WADA and NADO, and directly call other cyclists and pressure them to do the same, as much as make a press statement.

I for one don't believe cycling is cleaner than ever. Cleaner than it was in his career? Definitely. But 100% clean? No way.

I'd like to hear that phone conversation when he talks to LieStrong. I'd imagine it going something like Lance telling him repeatedly that Museeuw is number one, or if they are Skyping, Lance holding up 3 fingers and telling him to read between the lines. Just to enhance the direct verbal insults.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Museeuw is a big time Motherf@cker, first class. One of the first and best responders to EPO. Now calling for redemption? He was a nice sprinter, was chickened out of the sprints because Abdoujaparov was so dangerous so he went to the Flamish Classics. Thanks to him real Flandriens like Edwig van Hooydonck quit cycling. Mind you, I didn't like van Hooydonck at all but I hate guys like Museeuw stating he would have won without the dope. **** that hypocrite dopehead!

http://www.sportgeschiedenis.nl/2008/03/28/edwig-van-hooydonck-kon-winnen-zonder-doping.aspx

Na de Brabantse Pijl van 1996 gooide Van Hooydonck de handdoek in de ring. "Ik reed voorin met Museeuw. Ik dacht dat ik frisser was, omdat hij daags voordien de E3-Prijs had gewonnen, een koers die ik niet had gereden. En dan zie je dat hij op de Alsemberg doodleuk drie tanden groter rijdt. Dan verklaart hij na zijn carri&#232]

Translation:
''After the Brabantse Pijl 1996 van Hooydonck threw in the towel. 'I was riding up front with Museeuw. I thought I was fresher because he won the E3 the day before, I hadn't riden the E3. And then you see him on the Alsemberg riding 3 gears bigger than me. After his carreer he states he only doped in his final year, I say BS, Museeuw doped his whole carreer, simple as that' ''

And now mister EPO wants to come clean? Throw him and that idiot Lefevre in jail for dealing drugs, which is a criminal offence in Belgium. If it wasn't for this kind of idiots maybe Franck Vandebroucke would still be alive.

Sorry for my language!