Music! What are you listening to now?

Page 32 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community.
Libertine Seguros said:
Leonard Cohen - Death Of A Ladies' Man

One of the all time greatest there has ever been or will be.

The best there was, the best there is, the best there ever will be. In poland Waits Cohen and Dylan are seen as a quartet of poet singers with Polish poet Jacek Kaczmarski.

My favourite is Cohen though. No doubt
 
Jun 12, 2010
1,234
0
0
The Hitch said:
The best there was, the best there is, the best there ever will be. In poland Waits Cohen and Dylan are seen as a quartet of poet singers with Polish poet Jacek Kaczmarski.

My favourite is Cohen though. No doubt

Been a Cohen fan since the rather rediculous age of 11/12 with Greatest Hits and Songs of Love And Hate Albums. Seen him live in 77 at the age of 15...im 48 now.
At my weding we had a guy sing "True Love Leaves No traces " from Death Of a Ladies Man.
Dont think my X wife got the irony either at the time or now!:D

No one quite speeks quite so consistanly the truth free of "the Con" and its no word of a lie his words have both inspired me to seek the truth as well as helped me through hard times.

"From bitter searching of the heart we rise to play a greater part"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruDxyOebIQM
Enjoy!:)
 
The Hitch said:
The best there was, the best there is, the best there ever will be. In poland Waits Cohen and Dylan are seen as a quartet of poet singers with Polish poet Jacek Kaczmarski.

My favourite is Cohen though. No doubt

I am a massive fan of Dylan. An even bigger fan of Cohen, and an even bigger fan than that of Waits.

I think I might have to give Kaczmarski a go, though I imagine my rudimentary Polish will not stand up to the quality of the lyrics.

I would also insist that Jacques Brel be added to this pantheon of the all time greatest.
 
Darryl Webster said:
Been a Cohen fan since the rather rediculous age of 11/12 with Greatest Hits and Songs of Love And Hate Albums. Seen him live in 77 at the age of 15...im 48 now.
At my weding we had a guy sing "True Love Leaves No traces " from Death Of a Ladies Man.
Dont think my X wife got the irony either at the time or now!

No one quite speeks quite so consistanly the truth free of "the Con" and its no word of a lie his words have both inspired me to seek the truth as well as helped me through hard times.

"From bitter searching of the heart we rise to play a greater part"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruDxyOebIQM
Enjoy!

For me my favourite Cohen song is "Democracy" http://www.youclubvideo.com/video/89890/leonard-cohen-democracy.

Also his poem "the captain". But i get excited whenever i hear any of his songs. Their popular for covers seeing as there was the succesful album "Im your fan" with famous singers covering his song. From this spawned the hallelujah discrace i mention below. When i heard someone in the underground sing " and Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water"(guess the song;)) i immediately stopped and ended up being late because i listened to the whole thing.


I used to love "Hallelujha" but the rights were bought by simon coweel who eager to squeeze every penny he can out of every opportunity, had the winner of his reality tv singing competition the "x factor" run with it for christmas number 1. To say the song was butchered to fit this talentless winner is an understatement. I would say it was hung drawn and quartered, and its whole meaning was lost in the proccess, though then again, its whole meaning would have been lost on the audience anyway.

But what was worse is that some people didnt like that Cowell was ripping off the original. They decided that "the original" was the Jeff Buckley cover:eek:. So they started buying this one again in their numbers and the show biz obsessed media were for about two weeks reporting the battle between the cover and Buckleys original :confused:

Stupid ****s.:cool:

Libertine Seguros said:
I am a massive fan of Dylan. An even bigger fan of Cohen, and an even bigger fan than that of Waits.

I think I might have to give Kaczmarski a go, though I imagine my rudimentary Polish will not stand up to the quality of the lyrics.

I would also insist that Jacques Brel be added to this pantheon of the all time greatest.

I forgot to mention that Cohens popularity was such that at one time, they translated "Dance me to the end of love" word for word using the same tune, and i heard it playing on a pop radio station a few years ago. Unfortunately polish music has with globalisation declined to become probably the worst in the world now.

Personaly for me it goes Waits<Dylan<Cohen, though i think Waits and Cohen deserve far more praise than they get while Dylan hogs it all so to speak.

I was shocked to learn that Dylan is on a exclusive list, together with the Queen, the PM, the Potus, and Paul Mcartney, of people whos deaths would interrupt bbc coverage.

One admirable quality they all have in common is a tendancy to stay away from the spotlight. Waits has done a few late night talk shows, and Dylan used to do interviews now and again, but neither over do it, and as far as Cohen goes, i dont think ive ever heard him speak a single word outside of song.
 
The I'm Your Man documentary/concert film shows some brilliant spoken stuff from Lenny. There's a great bit where Bono and the Edge are being sycophantic, really talking about how listening to Leonard Cohen is a quasi-religious experience, then it cuts to Leonard Cohen saying that people called him a poet, which he felt was stretching it a bit, then calling him a singer "which was very kind since I could barely carry a tune". His self-deprecation juxtaposed with their sycophancy was very poignant.


As for Polish music being terrible, well, these guys and girls beg to differ.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6zWUhVprDY
 
Jun 12, 2010
1,234
0
0
The Hitch said:
Cohen goes, i dont think ive ever heard him speak a single word outside of song.

Ya missing a treat Hitch, Cohen in discussion or interviev will have ya spliting ya sides.
There aint a lot of it about but its full of very tounge in cheek yet wise remarks and observations on life.
In the mid 80`s , when Im Your Man came out he was on tour in the UK and was interviewed by , off all people Ann Diamond on brreakfast tv.
She made remark that he waasnt exactly a flamboyent performer and lived a simple life..words to that effect. His reply was " I enjoy the voluptuous of osterity"!:D
The look on her face was priceless. Well worth the effort to find the few jems.
Theres a couple of docs I have on vhs..one a black and white profile made by the Candadian Film board that includes spoken poetry from before his singing career in the 60`s and one from the 80`s made under the Arena banner for uk tv.

For a complete list of everything hes done..including paintings and novels check out this site:
http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/
 
Libertine Seguros said:
The I'm Your Man documentary/concert film shows some brilliant spoken stuff from Lenny.

When was this from. Ive heard of a "Bird on a wire" documentary with Cohen from the 70's but i havent seen it.

And the point about Polish music is that 8 years ago i was able to hear Cohen songs on a popular radio station. Now these same most popular stations play only the worst manifestations of 15 minutes of fame, pop, hip hop and cheesy dance music.

The tragedy is embodied for me in a cousin of mine who growing up could play piano, sing like an angel, schooled in all forms of dance, and very intelligent. Now 18, i see to my horror that because of her surroundings and polands idiotic youth culture (or lack of it), these talents have been limited, and forced to manifest themselves in greatly diminished disco dance to brainless polish rap without a tune, so basic that her talentless sister does it to the same level.

Its a poetic tragedy. Today her talents are wasted, meaningless, but just a few years ago, in the days of Budka suflera her social status would have risen because of them.

Darryl Webster said:
Ya missing a treat Hitch, Cohen in discussion or interviev will have ya spliting ya sides.


For a complete list of everything hes done..including paintings and novels check out this site:
http://www.leonardcohenfiles.com/

Thanks for that.

But i still think COhen is very low profile and i admire that about him. Ive heard others say this too. He really doesnt try to squeeze every penny through show biz, publicity stunts etc. He sings, takes the money and goes home.
 
mortand said:
Talulah Gosh

Late 80's tweepop band with a knack of writing two-minute punk songs. With the primitive jangly guitars and Amelia Fletcher's...peculiar voice on top, they're probably a love-it-or-hate-it kind of thing.

The Girl With the Strawberry Hair

I follow the C86 genre pretty closely, so I love stuff like that. The Field Mice are my favourites of those acts, but there's some pretty spectacular one-hit-wonder types like Another Sunny Day (ok, three hits), The Sea Urchins, Hey Paulette! etc. I also love The Wedding Present, The Shop Assistants, The Popguns, Beat Happening and a few others. Talulah Gosh themselves, of course, were partially reinvented in the form of Heavenly.

Of course, that whole genre split into the whimsical and the punky as it went on; though it's easy to like both bis and Belle and Sebastian, you wouldn't mistake one band for the other. The former sound is continued to this day by the likes of Camera Obscura and 'Allo Darlin' and the latter by the likes of Los Campesinos! and Tullycraft.

Tweeeeeeeeeeeee!

The Magnetic Fields are a twee awesomeness all their own.
 
Ooh, lots of good things to check out. I'm really not all that familiar with the classic C86 and various generations of tweepop, but I do love folks like Beat Happening, Tiger Trap, The Lucksmiths and Camera Obscura, and - to a lesser extent - Belle and Sebastian and The Softies. I once received a bunch of similar stuff - Heavenly, Brighter, Comet Gain, etc. - from an acquaintance who's crazy about these things, but never really got into it. I oughtta give it another shot, I'll probably enjoy it more now.
 
Jul 17, 2009
4,316
2
0
Darryl Webster said:
The return of the protest song!

Just released Ska single "Liar. Liar". Enjoy!:D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQFwxw57NBI&feature=player_embedded#!

Oh...and if it realy gets ya feet taping get a dowload and help make it Christmas No 1.
Its a messege Im sure many of you can identify with whatever country your in.

Cheers peeps.;)


this rules finally someone posting and talking about new material here.

I stopped reading when someone posted they ride the rollers to phil collins..
 
hrotha said:
Wow, Los Fresones Rebeldes... That brings back memories.

Make no mistake, they were awful... but ridiculously catchy, and they made you happy for no reason.

Hell no. Al Amanecer is a great song. It may not be especially musically challenging, but making a song that's that catchy and cheerful doesn't happen by accident. It's like "Wouldn't It Be Nice" by the Beach Boys. Is it trite pop at heart? Sure. But it's fantastic, and a triumph of songwriting.

The heart and soul of C86, twee or whatever the offshoot you choose, lies in its joyful naïveté. The music is deliberately simplistic, childish and innocent. It's just pop music, but raw and without its soul torn out by mainstream (over)production.
 
Libertine Seguros said:
Hell no. Al Amanecer is a great song. It may not be especially musically challenging, but making a song that's that catchy and cheerful doesn't happen by accident. It's like "Wouldn't It Be Nice" by the Beach Boys. Is it trite pop at heart? Sure. But it's fantastic, and a triumph of songwriting.
Well, they can hardly sing and the lyrics are a bit of an embarrassment:
Y es que si estás cerca me siento mejor
Desde que te conozco soy mucho mejor
Sé que puedo amarte todavía mejor
I mean, wow.

I have no problem with simple songwriting (after all, my "genre of choice" is punk rock), but los Fresones Rebeldes... Come on! I admit they're ridiculously catchy and "Al amanecer" is part of the sountrack of my teen years, but still.

edit: also, curse you! Now I'll have to listen to it at least 10 times in a row.
edit 2: I think I'm in love with the bassist.