Music! What are you listening to now?

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hrotha said:
Well, they can hardly sing and the lyrics are a bit of an embarrassment:

I mean, wow.

I have no problem with simple songwriting (after all, my "genre of choice" is punk rock), but los Fresones Rebeldes... Come on! I admit they're ridiculously catchy and "Al amanecer" is part of the sountrack of my teen years, but still.

Os Mutantes' amazing "A Minha Menina" is one of the catchiest, most fun, uplifting and enjoyable pieces of music of the modern era.

Here's the main refrain:
"ela e a minha menina
eu sou o menino dela
ela e o meu amor
eu sou o amor todinho dela"
- utter rubbish.

What about "she loves you, yeah yeah yeah (repeat)"?

About whether they can sing... well, you just admitted to listening to punk, and on the last page I've been singing the praises of the likes of Bob Dylan and Leonard Cohen, neither of whom are much good in the vocals dept. Plus, a deliberately amateurish song like Al Amanecer would sound ridiculous with a voice like a Jeff Buckley soaring over it!

Los Fresones basically do what should be done in tweepop. It's irksomely catchy, joyfully innocent, uplifting and gleefully amateurish. Ticks all the boxes for the genre.
 
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The issue I have is that they use the same rhyme in that particular verse, when they don't do it anywhere else. The result doesn't sound right. It's not an inherent part of the song's structure, unlike the examples you brought up, it's just lazy. But whatever, I don't even care anymore, I can't take my eyes off the bassist. Damn. Damn.

Say, have you ever listened to Architecture in Helsinki?
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
I am a massive fan of Dylan. An even bigger fan of Cohen, and an even bigger fan than that of Waits.

I think I might have to give Kaczmarski a go, though I imagine my rudimentary Polish will not stand up to the quality of the lyrics.

I would also insist that Jacques Brel be added to this pantheon of the all time greatest.

Please tell me you aren't talking ab out the drunk hobo Tom Waits? I don't classify the noise he makes as music but more as pollution.
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Please tell me you aren't talking ab out the drunk hobo Tom Waits? I don't classify the noise he makes as music but more as pollution.

Tom Waits has been sober since 1994.

He's also one of the best songwriters of his or in fact any generation, a gifted lyricist and a very original and unique musician. He makes things that sound effortlessly traditional yet unflinchingly different to anybody else ever.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
Tom Waits has been sober since 1994.

He's also one of the best songwriters of his or in fact any generation, a gifted lyricist and a very original and unique musician. He makes things that sound effortlessly traditional yet unflinchingly different to anybody else ever.

He was a heavy drinker through the 1970's. I don't understand anyone who could like such music personally.
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Please tell me you aren't talking ab out the drunk hobo Tom Waits? I don't classify the noise he makes as music but more as pollution.

oh no, please dont stop there.

Youve put me in a state of limbo. Youve convinced me with a brilliantly thought out, written and presented argument that Tom Waits isnt music.

But you havent told me what i shoul listen to instead. Please Acf, tell me what you do classify as music so i can listen to that instead.
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
He was a heavy drinker through the 1970's. I don't understand anyone who could like such music personally.


Well you cant be very big on philosphy then


Immanuel Kant was a real ****-ant who was very rarely stable.
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
who could think you under the table.
David Hume could out consume
Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel,
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
who was just as sloshed as Schlegel.

There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya
'bout the raisin' of the wrist.
Socrates himself was permanently ****ed.

John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
after half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato, they say, could stick it away,
'alf a crate of whiskey every day!
Aristotle, Aristotle was a ****** for the bottle,
and Hobbes was fond of his Dram.
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart:
"I drink, therefore I am."
 
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The Hitch said:
oh no, please dont stop there.

Youve put me in a state of limbo. Youve convinced me with a brilliantly thought out, written and presented argument that Tom Waits isnt music.

But you havent told me what i shoul listen to instead. Please Acf, tell me what you do classify as music so i can listen to that instead.

I don't like the music because I just don't like it. I don't have to. Music is about feel. You can't always explain why you like it but you do.
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
He was a heavy drinker through the 1970's. I don't understand anyone who could like such music personally.


Well you cant be very big on philosphy then


Immanuel Kant was a real ****-ant who was very rarely stable.
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
who could think you under the table.
David Hume could out consume
Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel,
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
who was just as sloshed as Schlegel.

There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya
'bout the raisin' of the wrist.
Socrates himself was permanently ****ed.

John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
after half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato, they say, could stick it away,
'alf a crate of whiskey every day!
Aristotle, Aristotle was a ****** for the bottle,
and Hobbes was fond of his Dram.
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart:
"I drink, therefore I am."
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
I don't like the music because I just don't like it..

Well what i asked in my post was for you to give me an alternative, so i can see what you DO classify as music.


I don't have to. Music is about feel. You can't always explain why you like it but you do

Then why have you made a big deal about the fact that he liked to drink once in a while.
 
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The Hitch said:
Well what i asked in my post was for you to give me an alternative, so i can see what you DO classify as music.




Then why have you made a big deal about the fact that he liked to drink once in a while.

Anything that is screamo or has a hobo singing or any song that is completely electronic like quite a lot of songs today, is not music. Having "music" that is just made by a synthesizer is not personally music in my opinion

Saying he liked to have a drink once in a while is a major under statement.
 
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"I feel sorry for people who don't drink. They wake up in the morning and that's the best they're going to feel all day."
Dean Martin
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Anything that is not screamo or has a hobo singing or any song that is completely electronic like quite a lot of songs today is not music. Having "music" that is just made by a synthesizer is not personally music in my opinion

Saying he liked to have a drink once in a while is a major under statement.

I hope that was a mistake.
 
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simo1733 said:
C'mon ACF I know you listen to midnight oil everyday!

They're not bad, dont really like Garrett tbh. Like listetning to good aussie bands such as silverchair & powderfinger.