How is it proof? Navarro was a better guitar player, just dig out any Jane's Addiction record from before they split the first time. However, Navarro did not mesh with the Chilis at all, their style of writing and playing did not fit with his and they were better off without him. Also, Californication, By The Way and Stadium Arcadium are considered classics? By who exactly? Californication spawned some radio hits, but By The Way and Stadium Arcadium are classics only in the same way as U2 records from the late 90s are classics - it's a mediocre retread of something that was much better first time around. All those records are are the RHCPs making a "best of, consisting of new material" - which entails doing a bit of everything they did before, none of it as well as they did before. And each record is progressively more of a scraping of the barrel.c&cfan said:go to youtube, slane castle 2003. watch greatness.
RDCP were mediocre until frusciante came even if their first guitar player already was a genius. however frusciante was much more than guitar, apparently.
proof? their album with navarro (mother's milk??) is seen as a huge floop. also, navarro was pathetic back then. californication stadium arcadium and by the way are considered masterpieces. their sound reached a new level since 99, even their live performances provide possitive and amazed critics all over the world.
Again, by who? Chad is a better drummer than who? Not Neil Peart. Not Danny Carey. Not John Bonham. Not Keith Moon. Not Dave Lombardo. Not Bill Ward. Not Gene Krupa. Not Buddy Rich. Not Tim 'Herb' Alexander. Chad's a perfectly serviceable modern rock drummer, but a great he is not. Flea's "own style" is pretty much exactly the same as any funk bassist, only with more gurning. Kiedis' lyrics... REALLY? You're about to defend the lyrics of a guy who once wrote "Intercourse/with a porpoise/is a dream for me" and "I like pleasure spiked with pain/and music is my aeroplane/it's my aeroplane"?anthony is the first to say that he is far from having a great voice. but for sure that he has the lirics and he is the soul of that band. "professional" opinion says that frusciante is -unlike navarro- one of the best and i totally agree. chad is viewed as the 5th best drummer of all times (ah..that right foot) and flea as his own style.
Try looking a bit deeper. If you think that is amazing in the present music scene, your mind would be fair blown by half the bands in existence, since they aren't phoning it in after 20 years of accumulating money.stadium arcadium didn't had a californication but overall it his only matched by glories of the past. that album in the present music scene is amazing.
Success and popularity have NOTHING to do with quality. That's why Leonard Cohen was on tour in his mid-70s recouping lost money, and Beyoncé could retire now and never do anything for the rest of her life. Guns 'n' Roses sounded like they were kicking down a scene... but with the benefit of hindsight, they were just being another part of it. Nirvana kicked down the scene, but at the same time their sound was, as Kurt himself said, Pixies+Melvins.guns n' roses had the potential to be the best rock band ever. at least we have 3 great cds. helmet are a joke compared to GNR sucess\popularity back then. their situation had nothing to do with other bands with maybe the exception of nirvana.
Matt Bellamy does not do ANYTHING new. At all. I don't think he ever has. He's written some decent riffs in his time, but ruins them all with too much pitch-shift, being so overblown the freaking MOODY BLUES laugh at it, and a falsetto vocal wail that would actually be really good if you'd never listened to Jeff Buckley.i don't like copy cats. i like guys that bring up something new. hendrix, page, knofler, clapton, frusciante and now bellamy. those(with more one or two) will be remembered as the teachers and others as students.
your paragraph about satriani made me think that you were talking about edge.
You want a guitarist who brought up something new? Glenn Branca. Thurston Moore. Jimi Hendrix. Steve Albini. Stuart Braithwaite. There's 5.
What you've basically done, is take a group of bands who are big because they are the "acceptable" face of rock music. They are the rock bands who get MTV play, who get radio play. They are the mainstream representation of alternative music. Once upon a time, they really were alternative. Don't kid yourself into thinking they are anything but another cog in the same mainstream they were once the alternative to. Unless you consider Coldplay "edgy".