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c&cfan said:
go to youtube, slane castle 2003. watch greatness.
RDCP were mediocre until frusciante came even if their first guitar player already was a genius. however frusciante was much more than guitar, apparently.

proof? their album with navarro (mother's milk??) is seen as a huge floop. also, navarro was pathetic back then. californication stadium arcadium and by the way are considered masterpieces. their sound reached a new level since 99, even their live performances provide possitive and amazed critics all over the world.
How is it proof? Navarro was a better guitar player, just dig out any Jane's Addiction record from before they split the first time. However, Navarro did not mesh with the Chilis at all, their style of writing and playing did not fit with his and they were better off without him. Also, Californication, By The Way and Stadium Arcadium are considered classics? By who exactly? Californication spawned some radio hits, but By The Way and Stadium Arcadium are classics only in the same way as U2 records from the late 90s are classics - it's a mediocre retread of something that was much better first time around. All those records are are the RHCPs making a "best of, consisting of new material" - which entails doing a bit of everything they did before, none of it as well as they did before. And each record is progressively more of a scraping of the barrel.

anthony is the first to say that he is far from having a great voice. but for sure that he has the lirics and he is the soul of that band. "professional" opinion says that frusciante is -unlike navarro- one of the best and i totally agree. chad is viewed as the 5th best drummer of all times (ah..that right foot) and flea as his own style.
Again, by who? Chad is a better drummer than who? Not Neil Peart. Not Danny Carey. Not John Bonham. Not Keith Moon. Not Dave Lombardo. Not Bill Ward. Not Gene Krupa. Not Buddy Rich. Not Tim 'Herb' Alexander. Chad's a perfectly serviceable modern rock drummer, but a great he is not. Flea's "own style" is pretty much exactly the same as any funk bassist, only with more gurning. Kiedis' lyrics... REALLY? You're about to defend the lyrics of a guy who once wrote "Intercourse/with a porpoise/is a dream for me" and "I like pleasure spiked with pain/and music is my aeroplane/it's my aeroplane"?

stadium arcadium didn't had a californication but overall it his only matched by glories of the past. that album in the present music scene is amazing.
Try looking a bit deeper. If you think that is amazing in the present music scene, your mind would be fair blown by half the bands in existence, since they aren't phoning it in after 20 years of accumulating money.

guns n' roses had the potential to be the best rock band ever. at least we have 3 great cds. helmet are a joke compared to GNR sucess\popularity back then. their situation had nothing to do with other bands with maybe the exception of nirvana.
Success and popularity have NOTHING to do with quality. That's why Leonard Cohen was on tour in his mid-70s recouping lost money, and Beyoncé could retire now and never do anything for the rest of her life. Guns 'n' Roses sounded like they were kicking down a scene... but with the benefit of hindsight, they were just being another part of it. Nirvana kicked down the scene, but at the same time their sound was, as Kurt himself said, Pixies+Melvins.

i don't like copy cats. i like guys that bring up something new. hendrix, page, knofler, clapton, frusciante and now bellamy. those(with more one or two) will be remembered as the teachers and others as students.

your paragraph about satriani made me think that you were talking about edge.
Matt Bellamy does not do ANYTHING new. At all. I don't think he ever has. He's written some decent riffs in his time, but ruins them all with too much pitch-shift, being so overblown the freaking MOODY BLUES laugh at it, and a falsetto vocal wail that would actually be really good if you'd never listened to Jeff Buckley.

You want a guitarist who brought up something new? Glenn Branca. Thurston Moore. Jimi Hendrix. Steve Albini. Stuart Braithwaite. There's 5.


What you've basically done, is take a group of bands who are big because they are the "acceptable" face of rock music. They are the rock bands who get MTV play, who get radio play. They are the mainstream representation of alternative music. Once upon a time, they really were alternative. Don't kid yourself into thinking they are anything but another cog in the same mainstream they were once the alternative to. Unless you consider Coldplay "edgy".
 
c&cfan said:
no he isn't. in fact, led zepplin, beatles, the immortals Queen and even dire straits already were ages ahead of pink floyd, even in guitar players.

led zepllin had one flaw... their singer. god, i can only imagine how great they would be with steven taylor! perfect!! their amazing drummer.. john paul jones and page.. steven taylor!
Steven Taylor is a Christian rock act.

Do you mean Steven Tyler, of Aerosmith?

If so, he's a Mick Jagger tribute act. Even within that genre, Bon Scott knocks spots off him.
 
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I'm gonna have to agree with Libertine Seguros: IMO, RHCP have sucked for over a decade.

But that is why they make Almond Joy and Mounds. To each his own.
 
Zamo... Pink Floyd is good. I like some of their early works off the Fragile album better than later works, which are still good BTW. Stuff like 'Roundabout', 'South side of the sky', even 'The fish (Schindleria Praematurus)'. Some of their stuff was what I'd call 'interesting'. I heard a radio interview with the band members a couple years ago that was enlightening. I don't recall names, but one of the members said every once in a while they had to really pull back on the reigns of one of the other members who wrote music for the instrumentals. He said he was so imaginative that some of the material just would not work.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
The best guitarist of the last 30 years has been Johnny Marr, of the Smiths. Listen to some of his guitar lines. Everything sounds so simple, so catchy. You wonder how on earth these amazing pop melodies had never been written before! And then you try to play them, and you know - because nobody could play them. But where most guitarists would have turned that into a solo, Marr was happy just to make that the hook of the song.

Yes I'd say Jonny Marr is a step ahead. Also Radiohead quitar on the early tracks are something special because its so random. Kind of mind blowing.
 
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sublimit said:
Yes I'd say Jonny Marr is a step ahead. Also Radiohead quitar on the early tracks are something special because its so random. Kind of mind blowing.

blow out. remember?
 
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on3m@n@rmy said:
Zamo... Pink Floyd is good. I like some of their early works off the Fragile album better than later works, which are still good BTW. Stuff like 'Roundabout', 'South side of the sky', even 'The fish (Schindleria Praematurus)'. Some of their stuff was what I'd call 'interesting'. I heard a radio interview with the band members a couple years ago that was enlightening. I don't recall names, but one of the members said every once in a while they had to really pull back on the reigns of one of the other members who wrote music for the instrumentals. He said he was so imaginative that some of the material just would not work.

"... so imaginative that some of the material just would not work". Kinda reminds me of a former roommate who lamented/bragged to me that he was so well-endowed that his ex-girlfriend used to complain that sex was too painful.
 
Libertine Seguros said:
You want a guitarist who brought up something new? Glenn Branca. Thurston Moore. Jimi Hendrix. Steve Albini. Stuart Braithwaite. There's 5.
Would like to add Bob Mould and Greg Ginn, the godfathers of the 80s underground guitar sound. Ginn brought extra gnarl to the to the early hardcore sound but also mastered the darker and slower sabbath-esque grooves. Black Flag's Depression & Damaged I encapsulate both aspects perfectly. Bob Mould's mixture of sixties psychedelia, punk and even folk is highly unique and also my all time fave. The mixture is perhaps at its peak when Husker Du tears Byrds' "Eight Miles High" apart.

And Iommi, of course.
 
Hüsker Dü were AMAZING.

Currently on "I Want You (She's So Heavy)" - must go into the top 5 Beatles songs, that one. Along with Happiness is a Warm Gun, Tomorrow Never Knows, A Day In The Life and Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown).

For a long time I was one of those people who was always down on the Beatles, all about them being overrated. But over time I've realised the folly of that. Were they the best band of all time? Hard to say. When on form, they were right up there. But they also made some utter garbage. But no way were they anything other than the most important band ever.
 
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If Husker Du were 'amazing' then what word would you use to describe The Replacements? You'd have to coin a new term to convey their brilliance.
 
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I've often wondered if German sprinter Robert Forster is a fan of Aussie singer-songwriter Robert Forster of The Go-Betweens. Or vice versa for that matter. Oddly enough, their names aren't their only connection. As the Aussie Robert once sang, " I lived in seclusion for a couple of years, in a 'German Farmhouse' just drinking beer/ and every morning I'd wake up with a smile from ear to ear".