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Which is the more likely? Valverde felt well that day and his only worry was Nibali, who was up front, so you could even argue that it was en Valverde's interest to force the pace a bit form longer way out. Valverde is being blamed all too much for Nairo not jumping more early and more often which simply isnt true. After stage 17 (TJ eliminated, Contador more or less eliminated from podium), Valverde didnt have that much to worry about and even if he had, I don't want to believe than Valverde/Unzue would hold Quintana back if he said 'hey, im going to go early and put a few minutes into Froome'. They just wouldnt. Valverde had everything fairly under control from that point on
Either way, its okay to speculate that, but to state that's how it was (which was very common - journalists, experts, twitter, forums, commentators etc.) is just not right. Give the man a break, even if he isnt totally likeable to many
Which is the more likely? Valverde felt well that day and his only worry was Nibali, who was up front, so you could even argue that it was en Valverde's interest to force the pace a bit form longer way out. Valverde is being blamed all too much for Nairo not jumping more early and more often which simply isnt true. After stage 17 (TJ eliminated, Contador more or less eliminated from podium), Valverde didnt have that much to worry about and even if he had, I don't want to believe than Valverde/Unzue would hold Quintana back if he said 'hey, im going to go early and put a few minutes into Froome'. They just wouldnt. Valverde had everything fairly under control from that point on
Either way, its okay to speculate that, but to state that's how it was (which was very common - journalists, experts, twitter, forums, commentators etc.) is just not right. Give the man a break, even if he isnt totally likeable to many
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wasnt he dropped as early as chaussy?
also it looked like strong headwinds in glandon so you would rather stay in the group. i think nairo did his maximum possible. one factor froome not loosing the tour were the 2 truncated, girodonne mountain stages
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Billie said:
wasnt he dropped as early as chaussy?
also it looked like strong headwinds in glandon so you would rather stay in the group. i think nairo did his maximum possible. one factor froome not loosing the tour were the 2 truncated, girodonne mountain stages
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Having said that, after reviewing all the mountain stages and realistically taking into account the strength of Sky, Froome's strength, descents, Quintana's strength, I actually believe that this was the stage where he lost the Tour. I don't thing he would have been successful in the other stages for the things I mentioned. He should have gone early at the bottom of La Toussuire . The numbers show that he could have gone early and he could have sustained it for longer time.
It was not the right thing to do for Quintana. Probably OK for Nibali, but not for Quintana.Red Rick said:
Having said that, after reviewing all the mountain stages and realistically taking into account the strength of Sky, Froome's strength, descents, Quintana's strength, I actually believe that this was the stage where he lost the Tour. I don't thing he would have been successful in the other stages for the things I mentioned. He should have gone early at the bottom of La Toussuire . The numbers show that he could have gone early and he could have sustained it for longer time.
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I am happy that he didnt go with nibali on the CdF but I think if he had done so he would have won the tour. (At least if Nibali had worked with him and even if he hadn't done so, Nairo at least would have won the stage because there wouldnt have been any other riders up in front, besides rolland who was just too weak to stay in front, that day)
the thing is froome could respond if quintana had joined nibali in that move or close the gap on the descent at least. inspite of the mechanical, he was able to accelerate on the summit of croix de fer yet, unlike toussuire.
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Oh, let's not forget he waited till very late on la Toussuire to attack, they rode with the same group the whole time, he could've attacked 8-10km earlier, which is what he would've done if he had waited for Froome for fair play reasons. That tells me it was more a matter of being too afraid to attack than to 'wait'.
Let's agree he's a champion, a single GT champion who's never won the Tour
Let's agree he's a champion, a single GT champion who's never won the Tour
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The day cyclists lower themselves to the gutter by attacking a race leader when he has a mechanical is the day this sport pushes a lot of fans to turn off for good. (that's any race leader, not just Froome).
SergeDeM said:
The day cyclists lower themselves to the gutter by attacking a race leader when he has a mechanical is the day this sport pushes a lot of fans to turn off for good. (that's any race leader, not just Froome).
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lol. what kind of bull**** you never watched cycling before this century that's for surePricey_sky said:
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Ok a bit over the top, but its it's still something which you don't do.
Ryo Hazuki said:
Ok a bit over the top, but its it's still something which you don't do.
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why not? it's all part of cycling and competition. what happens next? when a rider feels ill you don't attack anymore?Pricey_sky said:
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it happens all the time. like Roche and Delgado ganging up on Bernard who was behind because of flat. They attacked and rest of the peloton closed up the road on a bridge. Roche actually did it twice that year, also in the Giro. The italian team leader of Roche was in pink when he flatted, Roche was ordered to fall back but instead attacked. Or not so long ago Contador and Andy on Bales.
Also i've never understood the 'don't attack the race leader when he has a mechanical". Why would it be any different for the race leader then nr 189 in classification.
Also i've never understood the 'don't attack the race leader when he has a mechanical". Why would it be any different for the race leader then nr 189 in classification.
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