Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

[hfer07]

If Nairito was sick with fever & yet managed to limit his loses...........


then- if he recuperates in time - he might have a chance still

 

[saneguy]

I doubt he can win this. He looks quite weak and to make up so much time might be really tough!

 

[Gigs_98]

I doubt that he only was bad because he was ill but if thats really the case I hope we will see some crazy long range attacks. Maybe he could even make the Cercedilla stage really interesting

 

[fauniera]

So this is the second grand tour, where he pulls through despite being sick? That can't be good for his health and for his longtime prospects. Since Nairo is not the type that abandos easily (or at all), Movistar really should protect him and take him out if necessary. Of course i don't know how bad the sickness really is.

 

[WheelofGear]

He said he just had a bad day because of sickness. Maybe he is planning to attack later on?

 

[ILovecycling]

So this is the second grand tour, where he pulls through despite being sick? That can't be good for his health and for his longtime prospects. Since Nairo is not the type that abandos easily (or at all), Movistar really should protect him and take him out if necessary. Of course i don't know how bad the sickness really is.

Good point, I had this feeling too after hearing he is sick again.I think he should probably abandon

 

[fungusbear]

If Nairito was sick with fever & yet managed to limit his loses...........


then- if he recuperates in time - he might have a chance still

I would be surrprised- he is so far down now on GC with not enough super hard mountain stages to come (and even if yesterday was due to sickness, I don't think his form in the 1st week would give any credibilty to him taking 3 mins out of Tom, Aru, Rodriguez).

 

[sir fly]

It's a pity we won't be able to pull valid conclusions about his double capacity due to the illness.
I firmly believe he has what it takes to win two GTs in a season (even consecutive).
The way he improves as the race progresses, and the fact he's a diesel kind of a rider/climber, makes me think he can hold the top form longer than his rivals.
He's still a young rider, and the ability to maintain the form for longer periods comes with age. With right programming I think he can develop in the double capacity.

 

[Velolover2]

If Nairito was sick with fever & yet managed to limit his loses...........


then- if he recuperates in time - he might have a chance still

I would be surrprised- he is so far down now on GC with not enough super hard mountain stages to come (and even if yesterday was due to sickness, I don't think his form in the 1st week would give any credibilty to him taking 3 mins out of Tom, Aru, Rodriguez).

I'd just love to see him attacking early on. Better give it a try and fail miserably than getting 7th in GC. Like he did in the Tour 2013. That's the Quintana we all love to watch.

Just one stage with complete chaos from the beginning would be awesome. We saw that several times in the Giro.

 

[Isaak-Gabriel]

Animo Nairito ! https://twitter.com/Movistar_Team/status/639130995602534404

 

[Flamin]

Nairito said he suffered and felt empty today. Not looking good.

 

[Escarabajo]

Re:

Nairito said he suffered and felt empty today. Not looking good.

In that Twitter they said they felt better today.

 

[Flamin]

Weird, biciciclismo didn't publish that. Only that he felt empty and that he suffered, and hinting at a possible abandon.

 

[hfer07]

Re:

Weird, biciciclismo didn't publish that. Only that he felt empty and that he suffered, and hinting at a possible abandon.

Is confirmed: Nairito is hurting like a MoFo He feels empty because the fever was also accompanied with severe stomach upset/diarrhea over the last 4 days, which has taken all his strength away.......

damn

 

[Son of Amsterhammer]

If he can't win, there is no point I think. Not if he's feeling like $h!t@

 

[Escarabajo]

http://www.revistamundociclistico.com/ruta/19549-si-aguantamos-en-la-etapa-de-este-viernes-lo-mas-seguro-es-que-en-la-de-manana-nos-ira-mejor-nairo-quintana.html

He thought about retiring on Thursday. "If I survive on Friday it can only get better". He had fever and diarrhea two days ago. Doctor is impressed by Nairo and at the same time optimist. He is not giving up easily.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Quintana doesn't have the quality to rider 60+ race days imo at this point.
Needs more experience.

 

[ILovecycling]

Re:

http://www.revistamundociclistico.com/ruta/19549-si-aguantamos-en-la-etapa-de-este-viernes-lo-mas-seguro-es-que-en-la-de-manana-nos-ira-mejor-nairo-quintana.html

He thought about retiring on Thursday. "If I survive on Friday it can only get better". He had fever and diarrhea two days ago. Doctor is impressed by Nairo and at the same time optimist. He is not giving up easily.

I think it is a mistake,but if Nairo want it then I will support him.

 

[No_Balls]

Re:

It's a pity we won't be able to pull valid conclusions about his double capacity due to the illness.
I firmly believe he has what it takes to win two GTs in a season (even consecutive).
The way he improves as the race progresses, and the fact he's a diesel kind of a rider/climber, makes me think he can hold the top form longer than his rivals.
He's still a young rider, and the ability to maintain the form for longer periods comes with age. With right programming I think he can develop in the double capacity.

We have very valid conclusions. It is not that he suddenly became ill but that the acumultated fatigue sparked this fever, his stomach trouble also. When you are on the brink of exhaustion, when your body has passed its limit, you' get more receptive for diseases. He may or may not evolve into a double rider but far from that atm

 

[sir fly]

Re: Re:

It's a pity we won't be able to pull valid conclusions about his double capacity due to the illness.
I firmly believe he has what it takes to win two GTs in a season (even consecutive).
The way he improves as the race progresses, and the fact he's a diesel kind of a rider/climber, makes me think he can hold the top form longer than his rivals.
He's still a young rider, and the ability to maintain the form for longer periods comes with age. With right programming I think he can develop in the double capacity.

We have very valid conclusions. It is not that he suddenly became ill but that the acumultated fatigue sparked this fever, his stomach trouble also. When you are on the brink of exhaustion, when your body has passed its limit, you' get more receptive for diseases. He may or may not evolve into a double rider but far from that atm

You can't claim that with certainty.
It's just one possibility.

 

[Escarabajo]

No_Balls has a valid point. I use this point frequently in this forum. But ATM, I use it on riders that have repeated this behavior more than once just to validate the point.

 

[SeriousSam]

They're both right. Accumulated fatigue makes it more likely to get sick, and we don't know what made Quintana sick.

Double talk is premature for Quintana anyway. Let him win the Tour first. If he can.

 

[Tonton]

The bottom line is that maybe the Giro should start 1-2 weeks earlier (which I know is tough to do due to snow in the passes) and the Vuelta 1-2 weeks later, rearrange the prep races, et caetera. Their bodies are taking such a trauma/beating completing a GT that a little more rest seems necessary. Ask Bertie. He was fried at the TdF.

 

[dacooley]

human body is always very vulnerable when on peak or just good form and 6 weeks it too long-lasting period to keep a good physical condition up. quintana, contador and froome confirm this.

 

[ILovecycling]

The bottom line is that maybe the Giro should start 1-2 weeks earlier (which I know is tough to do due to snow in the passes) and the Vuelta 1-2 weeks later, rearrange the prep races, et caetera. Their bodies are taking such a trauma/beating completing a GT that a little more rest seems necessary. Ask Bertie. He was fried at the TdF.

It was discussed several times here and I would agree with that,but I think its not possible for too many reasons

Agree with Sam on Nairo goals.