Lal. I guess this nonsense logically follows from the moment he concluded he had lost the Tour in the crosswinds. A "more conservative" Quintana. God help us all.
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Taxus4a said:Some people says Quintana is not offensive. I am always disagree, and he was today the more offensive rider and his team was the team who put more pace in the hardest climb of the day.
Quintana is not an explosive rider, he is more diesel, so he is not going to attack so easy like others, and his attack is not going to take some meters so easy as others like Contador, Purito, Valverde, Dan Martin, etc... but he attack, what he doesnt do is crazy attacks.. he attack when the best decission is to attack acording a lot of parameters that maybe just he or his teams knows.
Just a friendly tip: in English we say "I disagree", not "I am disagree".Taxus4a said:Some people says Quintana is not offensive. I am always disagree, and he was today the more offensive rider and his team was the team who put more pace in the hardest climb of the day.
Red Rick said:Taxus4a said:Some people says Quintana is not offensive. I am always disagree, and he was today the more offensive rider and his team was the team who put more pace in the hardest climb of the day.
Quintana is not an explosive rider, he is more diesel, so he is not going to attack so easy like others, and his attack is not going to take some meters so easy as others like Contador, Purito, Valverde, Dan Martin, etc... but he attack, what he doesnt do is crazy attacks.. he attack when the best decission is to attack acording a lot of parameters that maybe just he or his teams knows.
I'd like to know the calculations that said attacking in the last 5km of La Toussuire was a good idea lasts year
CheckMyPecs said:Just a friendly tip: in English we say "I disagree", not "I am disagree".Taxus4a said:Some people says Quintana is not offensive. I am always disagree, and he was today the more offensive rider and his team was the team who put more pace in the hardest climb of the day.
portugal11 said:Merckx is right, quintana is very limited, he only gains time in very hard mountain stages, in stages with wind, with explosive climbs (but shorts) and time trials he looses time for rivals. So it's impossible to me, see where he could be a threat for contador or froome in le tour
portugal11 said:Merckx is right, quintana is very limited, he only gains time in very hard mountain stages, in stages with wind, with explosive climbs (but shorts) and time trials he looses time for rivals. So it's impossible to me, see where he could be a threat for contador or froome in le tour
The only problem is that most Tours are decided in the mountains. LOL. I can see where TT can affect him some, not a lot since he is not bad.portugal11 said:Merckx is right, quintana is very limited, he only gains time in very hard mountain stages, in stages with wind, with explosive climbs (but shorts) and time trials he looses time for rivals. So it's impossible to me, see where he could be a threat for contador or froome in le tour
Taxus4a said:portugal11 said:Merckx is right, quintana is very limited, he only gains time in very hard mountain stages, in stages with wind, with explosive climbs (but shorts) and time trials he looses time for rivals. So it's impossible to me, see where he could be a threat for contador or froome in le tour
In the mountains, he is the best climber. The second ITT he could even win le Tour as he did in Basque country ITT
He could pay in some mountains stages the plain, but this Tour hasnot a real long and flat forst week.
Quintana has lost today some seconds, in part becouse he was ambitious, but tomorrow he could put one minute to rivals who are today siilar or better in GC.
Quintana didnt lose time in the pave stage, Quintana can do very good ITTs, Quintana has a good team, he is the best climber, so he is obviously one of the favourites for le Tour, he has been second 2 times, and he is still young.
I think Froome is more favourite, but not a big difference, quite similar.
Tomorrow I will tell you if Contador is more favourite than Quintana.
Sorry but I just hate comments like this. Every time when people discuss about upcoming gt's there are people who bring up arguments like this. Rider A will beat rider B for sure because he did in any other year. Rider A is not as good as rider B in ITT's so there is absolutely no chance he can win. Rider A will without any doubt be better than rider B in the last week because he has been last year.portugal11 said:He gains time to froome in the third week but against contador he won't gain any time
Each year he's got pollen allergy at the beginning of spring so wait and see. Last year he was the biggest favorite of PV, however he struggled to win the GC and Izagirre finished on the podium.Valv.Piti said:I guess it was a decent result. Movistar and Quintana had obviously hoped for something better, but tomorrow should be considered the real test. I think a top-3 should be his goal and possibly the stage, but it will be hard.
Vamos Nairo, glad to finally see him on European soil. He should be better in Pais Vasco and should ride a better Romandie compared to last year.