Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

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Valv.Piti said:
Velolover2 said:
The Yates brothers deserve a mention too. Both know how to handle short, steep climbs.

And Dumoulin who is oddly enough better on steep, short climbs than he is on the longer, gradual ones.

I think Aru and Landa are a bit too far from to shape, surely Landa is, and Dumoulin seems to not be going too well. Its too tough for Gallopin, Dan Martin's ceiling is top-5 probably. The Yates are interesting, but I have no idea how they are doing this year and they shouldn't be able to beat either Quintana or Contador. Unless Quintana obviously get beaten by Izaguirre again... lets not hope for that.

Simon Yates climbed well in PN, while Adam Yates is still untested in 2016.
 
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Great victory! Fourth World Tour race after Basque 2013, Giro d'Italia 2014 and Tirreno-Adriatico 2015. Well deserved win, no fluke. And he needs to win only Paris-Nice some day and Romandie (maybe this year?) to have all one-week spring WT races.

I think that it will be difficult to win Pais Vasco this year, stage 5 is not hard enough so ITT will decide this race, but we will see.
 
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Quintana racking up those 1 week stage races. If he can beat (peak) Froome at the Tour this year, his prospective palmares as a stage racer look very good indeed
 
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I know that modest racing program isn't overly appreciated, but I respect the approach as long as the results are delivered.
To me it looks like Quintana learned that he should leave thinking about opposition to his rivals.
 
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Miburo said:
Wait what? Quintana actually wants to win the tour?

Why didn't he try that last year?

He did, don't you remember? He accelerated with about 2500m to go on the Stage 20 MTF; that's how all the great champions got their Tour wins! Anyway, he was busy fighting for the truly prestigious victory: the team classification.
 
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Cannibal72 said:
Miburo said:
Wait what? Quintana actually wants to win the tour?

Why didn't he try that last year?

He did, don't you remember? He accelerated with about 2500m to go on the Stage 20 MTF; that's how all the great champions got their Tour wins! Anyway, he was busy fighting for the truly prestigious victory: the team classification.
He attacked with several km to go. He did his best but in the end froomes margin was to great. Do that tour ten times froome always win he too strong no way Quintana ever win.
 
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Ramon Koran said:
Cannibal72 said:
Miburo said:
Wait what? Quintana actually wants to win the tour?

Why didn't he try that last year?

He did, don't you remember? He accelerated with about 2500m to go on the Stage 20 MTF; that's how all the great champions got their Tour wins! Anyway, he was busy fighting for the truly prestigious victory: the team classification.
He attacked with several km to go. He did his best but in the end froomes margin was to great. Do that tour ten times froome always win he too strong no way Quintana ever win.

Agree with almost everything, but if we replay that Tour 10 times, I would expect that at least a couple of those times Quintana would not have lost a minute in stage 2, and his attack in stage 20 would've been enough to win the race.
 
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Ramon Koran said:
Cannibal72 said:
Miburo said:
Wait what? Quintana actually wants to win the tour?

Why didn't he try that last year?

He did, don't you remember? He accelerated with about 2500m to go on the Stage 20 MTF; that's how all the great champions got their Tour wins! Anyway, he was busy fighting for the truly prestigious victory: the team classification.
He attacked with several km to go. He did his best but in the end froomes margin was to great. Do that tour ten times froome always win he too strong no way Quintana ever win.

Time waits for no man. Froome is much younger than Quintana and will inevitably reach the point where his talents are in decline, as it is with every athlete. Someone, maybe Quintana, will step up and defeat him, or Froome may retire before that happens, but that is rare among today's champions.

Edit: Should have said "Froome is much older than Quintana". Thanks for catching that del.
 
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Angliru said:
Ramon Koran said:
Cannibal72 said:
Miburo said:
Wait what? Quintana actually wants to win the tour?

Why didn't he try that last year?

He did, don't you remember? He accelerated with about 2500m to go on the Stage 20 MTF; that's how all the great champions got their Tour wins! Anyway, he was busy fighting for the truly prestigious victory: the team classification.
He attacked with several km to go. He did his best but in the end froomes margin was to great. Do that tour ten times froome always win he too strong no way Quintana ever win.

Time waits for no man. Froome is much younger than Quintana and will inevitably reach the point where his talents are in decline, as it is with every athlete. Someone, maybe Quintana, will step up and defeat him, or Froome may retire before that happens, but that is rate among today's champions.
I don't doubt for one second froome will be defeated. Probably not this year maybe not next year but in next 2-3 years Quintana landa aru pinot and co will take over.
 
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Angliru said:
Ramon Koran said:
Cannibal72 said:
Miburo said:
Wait what? Quintana actually wants to win the tour?

Why didn't he try that last year?

He did, don't you remember? He accelerated with about 2500m to go on the Stage 20 MTF; that's how all the great champions got their Tour wins! Anyway, he was busy fighting for the truly prestigious victory: the team classification.
He attacked with several km to go. He did his best but in the end froomes margin was to great. Do that tour ten times froome always win he too strong no way Quintana ever win.

Time waits for no man. Froome is much younger than Quintana and will inevitably reach the point where his talents are in decline, as it is with every athlete. Someone, maybe Quintana, will step up and defeat him, or Froome may retire before that happens, but that is rare among today's champions.

I think you mean older

Anyway Quintana should win the tour a number of times if he makes the best use of his talents
 
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del1962 said:
Angliru said:
Ramon Koran said:
Cannibal72 said:
Miburo said:
Wait what? Quintana actually wants to win the tour?

Why didn't he try that last year?

He did, don't you remember? He accelerated with about 2500m to go on the Stage 20 MTF; that's how all the great champions got their Tour wins! Anyway, he was busy fighting for the truly prestigious victory: the team classification.
He attacked with several km to go. He did his best but in the end froomes margin was to great. Do that tour ten times froome always win he too strong no way Quintana ever win.

Time waits for no man. Froome is much younger than Quintana and will inevitably reach the point where his talents are in decline, as it is with every athlete. Someone, maybe Quintana, will step up and defeat him, or Froome may retire before that happens, but that is rare among today's champions.

I think you mean older

Anyway Quintana should win the tour a number of times if he makes the best use of his talents

That's exactly what I meant. :eek: Thanks.
 
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Scarponi said:
I wonder if he will ever attempt the Dauphine or Swisse

I thought the same thing. I would absolutely love him to try Suisse to give him a little more time after Romandie in what is a ridiculous route. It would also be fun to see him square off against Contador and Froome in the prologue in Dauphine. But I think the safe bet is RdS or nothing, especially since he does Romandie (I remember him saying at some point that he was a little conservative about his prep).

He will do the right thing for him, but I think its super important to be strong for the start of the Pyrenees. I could see Froome go mental up Aspin, I really could. If not there, then Aracalis
 
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Agree with the above. I really hope Nairo's preparation is geared towards being able to cope with an all-out assault by Froome in the first week; otherwise, he'll find himself in a similar situation to last year and it's going to be on his shoulders.
 
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AlexNYC said:
Agree with the above. I really hope Nairo's preparation is geared towards being able to cope with an all-out assault by Froome in the first week; otherwise, he'll find himself in a similar situation to last year and it's going to be on his shoulders.
This!
His recovery is great, he was really strong at the end of the Vuelta (he had a decent shot at winning the race if it wasn't for the fever on the Andorra stage), so doing a longer stage race before the Tour shouldn't be a problem for him. I get the fact that he doesn't want a big showdown against Froome at the Dauphine, but TdS would be a great option for him, it's not like he has compete for the win, but with a little bit more racing days before the Tour his form should be better at the end of the first week and recovery has never been a problem for Quintana, the guy was able to ride Tour+Vuelta and in both races he was at his best durning the 3rd week.
This year we have 2 mountain stages right before the first MTF (Aracalis), that should be better for him, but you never know...
 
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Mayomaniac said:
AlexNYC said:
Agree with the above. I really hope Nairo's preparation is geared towards being able to cope with an all-out assault by Froome in the first week; otherwise, he'll find himself in a similar situation to last year and it's going to be on his shoulders.
This!
His recovery is great, he was really strong at the end of the Vuelta (he had a decent shot at winning the race if it wasn't for the fever on the Andorra stage), so doing a longer stage race before the Tour shouldn't be a problem for him. I get the fact that he doesn't want a big showdown against Froome at the Dauphine, but TdS would be a great option for him, it's not like he has compete for the win, but with a little bit more racing days before the Tour his form should be better at the end of the first week and recovery has never been a problem for Quintana, the guy was able to ride Tour+Vuelta and in both races he was at his best durning the 3rd week.
This year we have 2 mountain stages right before the first MTF (Aracalis), that should be better for him, but you never know...

Nairo riding Suisse would be so sweet (3 hard MTF's in a row + some other good stuff), it has some upsides like you mentioned, not meeting Froome/Contador beforehand and its a little later compared to Dauphine which allows him to stay in Columbia. I don't think Nairo was below average on PSM, I just think Froome was extremely good, but if TDS could give him a little extra for the Pyrenées, that would obviously be great
 
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Of course he doesn't still have the virus, he would have to be beyond stupid to start such a tough race while he is ill, it could seriously compromise his preparation for the Tour. He's most likely just sandbagging, just like Contador always does. Let's see if people will call Quintana a liar too.
 
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LaFlorecita said:
Of course he doesn't still have the virus, he would have to be beyond stupid to start such a tough race while he is ill, it could seriously compromise his preparation for the Tour. He's most likely just sandbagging, just like Contador always does. Let's see if people will call Quintana a liar too.

One thing about Quintana is that he tends to be pretty straightforward when he talks to the press. If he says he had a virus, I'm pretty sure he did have a virus.

Today was not a good test; a rider of his caliber should not have any issues surviving a stage like this. Tomorrow, however, will be very telling. Even when in top shape, Quintana could lose time to the most explosive climbers on a finish like that.
 
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DNP-Old said:
He looked pretty good for a person who's ''suffering'' from a virus.

He was interviewed by Bicigoga right after the end of the stage in the Señal Colombia broadcast, and it was clear he is "acatarrado".