Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

[Valv.Piti]

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quintana will definitely not do as well in the itt as henao

I like how you are so definitive every time i encounter you in an argument. Do you know if Quintana has recovered from his virus?

 

[Marco Pantani]

Nairo has clearly improved this year. He's going much stronger on shorter climbs now. Even more impressive, considering the virus.

 

[Taxus4a]

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Nairo has clearly improved this year. He's going much stronger on shorter climbs now. Even more impressive, considering the virus.

He was better in Aia than expected, but still worse than Henao. It is difficult to say if that is enough for tomorrow make the difference, becouse Arrate is not a long climb.

 

[Marco Pantani]

I dont expect him to drop Contador or Henao. They are likely to finish in the same time tomorrow. Maybe Henao can take some seconds.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Im not the best at Spanish, but Im pretty sure he said he has recovered from his virus which also was quite obvious today when he followed Contador and those 2 bridged to Henao on that slope. My bet for tomorrow in Arrate.

Vamos Nairo!

 

[blackmamba]

It baffles me that Quintana which is under the gun and needs to attack (not Contador) cause of the last TT still HE NEVER ATTACKS just follows wheels such a boring rider.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

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It baffles me that Quintana which is under the gun and needs to attack (not Contador) cause of the last TT still HE NEVER ATTACKS just follows wheels such a boring rider.

where is he supposed to attack? also I think he doesn't care about winning this race at all. contador imo is far more disapointing

 

[Mr.White]

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It baffles me that Quintana which is under the gun and needs to attack (not Contador) cause of the last TT still HE NEVER ATTACKS just follows wheels such a boring rider.

The only stage where he could possibly gain time is tommorow. If he is strong he'll attack, just remember Catalunya, that was not so long ago. Arrate is a longer climb compared to Aia or other decisive climbs so far, so if he's going to strike, it's tommorow.

 

[Taxus4a]

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It baffles me that Quintana which is under the gun and needs to attack (not Contador) cause of the last TT still HE NEVER ATTACKS just follows wheels such a boring rider.

Surely you are right, or maybe not:

http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=23934 and Quinbtana now is a better rider.

as I said, there is not a clear favourite or a clear jierarchy for Saturday s ITT.

It suits very well Contador, but...

Contador could win this race the same he could not be on the podium.

 

[Taxus4a]

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It baffles me that Quintana which is under the gun and needs to attack (not Contador) cause of the last TT still HE NEVER ATTACKS just follows wheels such a boring rider.

The only stage where he could possibly gain time is tommorow. If he is strong he'll attack, just remember Catalunya, that was not so long ago. Arrate is a longer climb compared to Aia or other decisive climbs so far, so if he's going to strike, it's tommorow.

The problem in Catalonia is that there were a descent and everything was decided in the last Km. That wanst a bad stage for Quintana, but with that last 3 Km...

 

[blackmamba]

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It baffles me that Quintana which is under the gun and needs to attack (not Contador) cause of the last TT still HE NEVER ATTACKS just follows wheels such a boring rider.

Surely you are right, or maybe not:

http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=23934 and Quinbtana now is a better rider.

as I said, there is not a clear favourite or a clear jierarchy for Saturday s ITT.

It suits very well Contador, but...

Contador could win this race the same he could not be on the podium.

Ofcourse no arguing there Quintana is no pushover in this TT hes proven he can ride a good one before in these terrains but Contador SHOULD have the edge with other riders aswell now ofcourse that course require good legs which only time will tell who wins but in terms of who should have the edge going in (in terms of previous results, facts and history) Quintana knows aswell as me and you Contador SHOULD have the edge.

And theres my point I made which you quoted, as Quintana, knowing this why not try something (even tho hes not strong enough or anything if thats the case from the virus) atleast try something, test em, check em out hes not even done that!

 

[KyoGrey]

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It baffles me that Quintana which is under the gun and needs to attack (not Contador) cause of the last TT still HE NEVER ATTACKS just follows wheels such a boring rider.

The rumour is that if he ever stops wheelsucking Contador before the flamme rouge, he will receive an electroshock up from the saddle remotely activated by Unzue from the team car.

Now seriously, he surely is annoying. He is so good, so much talent wasted.

And the problem is that it is getting worse. He had declarations last month in which he himself said that he should take less risks and be (even more) conservative.

 

[AlexNYC]

Had Quintana attacked in stage 4, do you think he would've gained any time on the main contenders? Very probably not. So why should he attack in those circumstances? To make Contador fans in this forum happy?

 

[DNP-Old]

I hope he somehow wins, just to see another Milburo meltdown.

 

[dacooley]

I don't think arrate is a proper climb to make a gap for anyone but henao who might grab a few seconds in the final. the most probable scenario is nairo, bertie, henao, landa, pinot and a few more guys finishing together with tiny margins between each other. tt will be crucial for nairo, he'll have to be really adequate at tt to win this year's tour, so that's the first time trial test for him coming up.

 

[rick james]

I thought he looked OK yesterday, I'm sure he sees this race as more race miles in the legs, now if he is feeling good we will find out today.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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It baffles me that Quintana which is under the gun and needs to attack (not Contador) cause of the last TT still HE NEVER ATTACKS just follows wheels such a boring rider.

The rumour is that if he ever stops wheelsucking Contador before the flamme rouge, he will receive an electroshock up from the saddle remotely activated by Unzue from the team car.

Now seriously, he surely is annoying. He is so good, so much talent wasted.

And the problem is that it is getting worse. He had declarations last month in which he himself said that he should take less risks and be (even more) conservative.

Very well said. Looks like he's spent too much time with Piti although ironically Piti does not wheelsuck as much these days Did you know if you type "chuparruedas" in google, the autocomplete suggests "valverde chuparruedas"

 

[SeriousSam]

Reports of Quintana's wheel sucking are exaggerated, it's not that long ago he accelerated powerfully to leave Contador for dead and win a stage race.

He is a cerebral warrior on the bike who knows that you need to swing the battle axe when the time is right, not tire yourself out stinging someone with a needle repeatedly on every little hill.

 

[KyoGrey]

Re: Re:

It baffles me that Quintana which is under the gun and needs to attack (not Contador) cause of the last TT still HE NEVER ATTACKS just follows wheels such a boring rider.

The rumour is that if he ever stops wheelsucking Contador before the flamme rouge, he will receive an electroshock up from the saddle remotely activated by Unzue from the team car.

Now seriously, he surely is annoying. He is so good, so much talent wasted.

And the problem is that it is getting worse. He had declarations last month in which he himself said that he should take less risks and be (even more) conservative.

Very well said. Looks like he's spent too much time with Piti although ironically Piti does not wheelsuck as much these days Did you know if you type "chuparruedas" in google, the autocomplete suggests "valverde chuparruedas"

¡No jodas! Well, to be fair, Valverde has the justification that he (theorically) isnt as good a pure climber as the top guns in GTs while he is faster in the sprint, and he always leaves us 2-3 or even 4 legendary performances in one day-races or in certain stages each year.

Quintana is supposed to be the "best climber in the world"...

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

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It baffles me that Quintana which is under the gun and needs to attack (not Contador) cause of the last TT still HE NEVER ATTACKS just follows wheels such a boring rider.

The rumour is that if he ever stops wheelsucking Contador before the flamme rouge, he will receive an electroshock up from the saddle remotely activated by Unzue from the team car.

Now seriously, he surely is annoying. He is so good, so much talent wasted.

And the problem is that it is getting worse. He had declarations last month in which he himself said that he should take less risks and be (even more) conservative.

how is quintana potential wasted when in the past few years alone age 23-26 he has already won stagewins in giro and tour, tirreno, catalunya, pais vasco and the giro

 

[hrotha]

Quintana just wants to do "cosas bonitas".

 

[KyoGrey]

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Quintana just wants to do "cosas bonitas".

Imagine the celebrations in the hotel afterwards, as Nairo clinched his desired 2nd place and Alejandro the 3rd.

 

[Cannibal72]

But did they get the team classification? As we learned from the TdF, that's the real prize.

 

[blackmamba]

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Quintana just wants to do "cosas bonitas".

Imagine the celebrations in the hotel afterwards, as Nairo clinched his desired 2nd place and Alejandro the 3rd.

Dont know if its more funny or sad cant decide

 

[Valv.Piti]

Ugh, the Nairo-hate.. and people are also clever enough on this forum to give Alejandro a bit as well, something which he surely hasn't deserved based on his last couple of years.

Quintana is smart. He doesn't spend energy on useless attacks like Contador sometimes does, sometimes it even seems like he races for his fans, but strikes when the opportunity is there and he feels he can actually drop the rest. Basically what SeriousSam noted.

I also do think its important to remember Quintana was one of the most aggressive in last year's Vuelta, despite not being too good. He basically tried every time he felt well, funny how these things have forgotten. Its also funny that he just left Contador in the dust 2 weeks earlier.