Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

[Escarabajo]

If that was Quintana's bad day then he is in good position. Same for Contador when de has bad days in this forum. Only loses few seconds and the world falls apart. I think they are fine.

Froome's bad days are another thing.

 

[Taxus4a]

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"Nairo Quintana: “It wasn’t only Arrate: the whole race was really hard today. Race conditions were tough as hell, and for some reason I can only blame myself about, I got too cold under the rain. That really hits hard in the decisive moments. I chose to follow my own pace when Contador and Henao attacked: I was already feeling a bit out of energy, and should have I followed their wheels, I knew I’d crack sooner or later. I could only keep my own rhythm to limit any losses. I hope to complete this race as strong as I can and keep fighting in tomorrow’s TT - that’s how we came here, with an aim to until the very end.”

I think it's first time when he has problems because of cold weather.

Thanks for that, I was looking his words. It is as I though, he was afected bu cold and rain conditions. He is much better on hot weather.

Yes, he won a stage on the snow, (that day he was much better than the rest) even with the worse weather possible he would have won) but today whole stage was much harder, and he came from heath problems.

 

[SeriousSam]

It's hard to stay on top of each top rider's unique weather sensibilities. They seem to be changing to whatever best suits the narrative

 

[RedheadDane]

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"Nairo Quintana: “It wasn’t only Arrate: the whole race was really hard today. Race conditions were tough as hell, and for some reason I can only blame myself about, I got too cold under the rain. That really hits hard in the decisive moments. I chose to follow my own pace when Contador and Henao attacked: I was already feeling a bit out of energy, and should have I followed their wheels, I knew I’d crack sooner or later. I could only keep my own rhythm to limit any losses. I hope to complete this race as strong as I can and keep fighting in tomorrow’s TT - that’s how we came here, with an aim to until the very end.”

I think it's first time when he has problems because of cold weather.

Yep, I read that, sounds like a bad excuse to me. He wasn't better, hopefully he will be able to do better in Romandie, but first and foremost tomorrow.

Doesn't look like an excuse to me, he's simply pointing out that it was his own fault.

 

[Angliru]

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Climbing style techniques: Andy >> Rolland > Contador > Quintana

Andy and Frank brings to mind two old men with canes stumbling about.

 

[ILovecycling]

I dont believe it either, simply a bad day, hopefully he will be all right with form

 

[diego721]

I've been reading for a while, but just wrote 2 or 3 posts, and I don't understand the hate for Nairo, I mean year after year he is improving. Right now he is just riding for miles and testing his body, and he has done that pretty good beside the virus that affected him this week. I really thing that he is aggressive when he need too, but not aggressive "full *** mode", probably is not the most fun to watch because he calculates every move and don't make movements can't get him a good reward, and that's it.

Sometimes Contador make that long, crazy attacks an everybody loves him about that, because he is "aggressive", but more than one time it turns out into a silly and stupid attack that leaves him dead and makes him loose time, and nobody say "Oh such stupid move from Alberto", everybody have different ways to do stuff, to see life, and in cycle to ride the bike and get the things done in his own way. By now I think Nairo is still trying to find his own proper style, and fortunately he has plenty of years to come, so all of us can tell to other the things that like or not, but just blaming the rider one day yes and the other too for his way of be just doen't has sense, look at Nairo's interviews, I think that he rides just as he is as a person, a businesslike way of riding.

 

[blackmamba]

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I've been reading for a while, but just wrote 2 or 3 posts, and I don't understand the hate for Nairo, I mean year after year he is improving. Right now he is just riding for miles and testing his body, and he has done that pretty good beside the virus that affected him this week. I really thing that he is aggressive when he need too, but not aggressive "full *** mode", probably is not the most fun to watch because he calculates every move and don't make movements can't get him a good reward, and that's it.

Sometimes Contador make that long, crazy attacks an everybody loves him about that, because he is "aggressive", but more than one time it turns out into a silly and stupid attack that leaves him dead and makes him loose time, and nobody say "Oh such stupid move from Alberto", everybody have different ways to do stuff, to see life, and in cycle to ride the bike and get the things done in his own way. By now I think Nairo is still trying to find his own proper style, and fortunately he has plenty of years to come, so all of us can tell to other the things that like or not, but just blaming the rider one day yes and the other too for his way of be just doen't has sense, look at Nairo's interviews, I think that he rides just as he is as a person, a businesslike way of riding.

So your saying his finding his way and it seems to land on, beeing happy and content with second places, never attacking unless your absolutely sure you wont pay for it, preferably very close to the finish line and even tho I cant TT as my opponents ill just sit on their wheel never testing with a attack to see where im at although im probably stronger, I will rather follow em as much as I can so I dont risk that second place way?

Well good for him then if hes figuring out thats how he wanne ride,waste of talent but hey if it works for him in life then chapou

 

[Taxus4a]

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I've been reading for a while, but just wrote 2 or 3 posts, and I don't understand the hate for Nairo, I mean year after year he is improving. Right now he is just riding for miles and testing his body, and he has done that pretty good beside the virus that affected him this week. I really thing that he is aggressive when he need too, but not aggressive "full *** mode", probably is not the most fun to watch because he calculates every move and don't make movements can't get him a good reward, and that's it.

Sometimes Contador make that long, crazy attacks an everybody loves him about that, because he is "aggressive", but more than one time it turns out into a silly and stupid attack that leaves him dead and makes him loose time, and nobody say "Oh such stupid move from Alberto", everybody have different ways to do stuff, to see life, and in cycle to ride the bike and get the things done in his own way. By now I think Nairo is still trying to find his own proper style, and fortunately he has plenty of years to come, so all of us can tell to other the things that like or not, but just blaming the rider one day yes and the other too for his way of be just doen't has sense, look at Nairo's interviews, I think that he rides just as he is as a person, a businesslike way of riding.

I quite agree with you, but it is not just a question on that. Contador dont use to move crazy attack.. sometime he do attack for his fans, just for pride, as what he did in Galibier, at the begining of the telegraphe. He had nothing to lose, so it is ok, but maybe people is impressed for that...but he fade later, he wanst so strong to try that really. I dont like today too much andy, but when he 2 previous days moved on Izoard and won that stage, that is what is impressing in cycling, he could have fade at the end, but he would have showed he had to try, Peole were critized him previous days, but that kind of endurace riders, when attack and won, use to be a mitical victory.

Both thing are good, to win a big stage by getting lot of time to everybody and to have lot of victories,

But normaly he do things becouse is good for him. He is not stupid.

His main advantage is his powerfull attack in the mountains, he has a impressive 1 Km in mountains to 3 to 10 Km, and a good 4 Km attack. He has 200 metres very explossives, for him is easy to drop people, so he has to attack. Other people are maybe stronger but is not the best for them to make a lot of attacks, they are more diesel. They just can attack when all the people is exausted, and they have stilll his engine quite full.

So Alberto do what he has to do, and Quintana do what he has to do. He came to this race in bad condition for his illness, so it is OK he just follow wheels, there is not big mountains for him, not big altitude (he won a pais vasco doing that, anyway)

But he showed in Cataluña he is an agressive rider, and he won the race.

Here is a different situation for him

 

[Taxus4a]

Re: Re:

"Nairo Quintana: “It wasn’t only Arrate: the whole race was really hard today. Race conditions were tough as hell, and for some reason I can only blame myself about, I got too cold under the rain. That really hits hard in the decisive moments. I chose to follow my own pace when Contador and Henao attacked: I was already feeling a bit out of energy, and should have I followed their wheels, I knew I’d crack sooner or later. I could only keep my own rhythm to limit any losses. I hope to complete this race as strong as I can and keep fighting in tomorrow’s TT - that’s how we came here, with an aim to until the very end.”

I think it's first time when he has problems because of cold weather.

Yep, I read that, sounds like a bad excuse to me. He wasn't better, hopefully he will be able to do better in Romandie, but first and foremost tomorrow.

Doesn't look like an excuse to me, he's simply pointing out that it was his own fault.

Of course is a bad day, he is explaining why is a bad day. If you think that with good weather today he would have lost the same time IMO you are wrong.

 

[yespatterns]

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Climbing style techniques: Andy >> Rolland > Con

Andy and Frank brings to mind two old men with canes stumbling about.

One blind, one deaf, hanging onto one another to complete a task. Cycling is better off without the dramatic duo.

 

[hrotha]

Diego, few people say "oh, such a stupid move by Alberto" when he fails because it's acknowledged that he's only riding for 1st, and thus that sometimes he simply *needs* to take crazy risks. That's why people love him, and even we haters admire his style.

 

[gooner]

That is true.

My opinion is well-known on Contador but I wouldn't begrudge him respect for his style and mentality to try and win.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Re style, I'd honestly rather watch Froome than Quintana. Froome's style might be ugly but it's entertaining. Quintana is just boring.

 

[dacooley]

being an obsessed bertie fan is a sickness because suchlike supporters seem to sincerely start believing that the whole sport is all about if he wins or not. cheer for contador, but ignore mania named contador and you will see cycling in all its magnificence

 

[LaFlorecita]

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One blind, one deaf, hanging onto one another to complete a task. Cycling is better off without the dramatic duo.

This is exactly how I feel. Sometimes I am surprised to find out Frank is still riding

 

[Marco Pantani]

I wonder what's the point of all this criticism. There's a brilliant 26 year old climber, that has won a lot of big stages and races and many of you have nothing else to do, than looking for any wrongdoing. He hasn't won all these races by staying on someones backwheel.

This man is the best climber in the world and he will make that perfectly clear this July. Don't worry you will be pleased with the number of attacks, or not, if you want Contador to win.

 

[SeriousSam]

Virus-ridden Quintana only 5 seconds down on Contador who prepared meticulously for it

Encouraging sign for the Tour

 

[burning]

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Virus-ridden Quintana only 5 seconds down on Contador who prepared meticulously for it

Encouraging sign for the Tour

Come on, you can do better than that.

 

[Eclipse]

Good ride today, shame about the bad day yesterday but all things considered another good performance in a race that really didn't suit him

 

[Rollthedice]

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Virus-ridden Quintana only 5 seconds down on Contador who prepared meticulously for it

Encouraging sign for the Tour

Well, he won this race in 2013 finishing second after Tony Martin in the ITT.

 

[Mr.White]

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Virus-ridden Quintana only 5 seconds down on Contador who prepared meticulously for it

Encouraging sign for the Tour

I wouldn't give much significance to that virus. Contador was better, hands down! But still a great ride and a great recovery from yesterday...

 

[Moviestar]

The youth equipe of Nairo, Boyaca Raza, will be doing some European races in the coming period.

- 15-17 abril: Vuelta a Castilla y León (2.1, España)
- 30 abril-2 mayo: Vuelta a Asturias (2.1, España)
- 7-8 mayo: Vuelta a Madrid (2.1, España)
- 13-15 mayo: Volta Internacional Cova da Beira (2.1, Portugal)

Héiner Parra (Sora, 24 años), Diego Ochoa (Paipa, 22 años), Yeison Chaparro (Duitama, 24 años), Néstor García (Motavita, 22 años), Miguel Flórez (Duitama, 19 años), Róbinson Ortega (Ramiriquí, 20 años), Wilson Rodríguez (Tuta, 21 años), puis les rejoindront Roller Diágama (Tunja, 21 años) y Michael Rodríguez (Jenesano, 26 años), pusi enfin Michael Rodríguez (Jenesano, 26 años) .

Parra has spent 2 years with Caja Rural, but that wasn't a success.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Some brilliant stuff today, only beaten by an incredible Contador today and distancing every one else significantly apart from Henao. Very happy with this result considering all things: Its a better race for Contador, the virus affection and the obvious bad day yesterday. A stage win would almost have been too good after Arrate yesterday..

So, its evened now, 1-1. Chances are they are never going to see each other again until Col d' Aspin, but Quintana will have a taste of Froome in Romandie where is always does well. It will be really hard to beat him there.

 

[cineteq]

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Really bad news for Contador and Froome

Virus-ridden Quintana only 5 seconds down on Contador who prepared meticulously for it

Encouraging sign for the Tour