Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

[Cookster15]

Re: Re:

That's the true.

Yep, Contador and Pantani are the "true". No objections there.

"Three minutes is too much," stated Discovery Team Manager Johan Bruyneel to Jean-François Quénet of Cyclingnews. "Alberto did all he could, we must accept the defeat. It will be necessary to go flat-out in the time trial because we never know."

The Chicken destroyed all and sundry in that Tour. That shouldn't really be up for debate.

Two points:

1. Debating Chicken's 2007 Tour performance is impossible in this forum. . Naturally at just 24 Alberto faded on Aubisque under the onslaught.
2. Pantani was on a different planet uphill compared to any rider I have seen including Contador. Different era sure but nothing compares to Pantani's long range demolition of Jan Ullrich on the stage to Les Deux Alpes in the 1998 Tour and his domination of the 1999 Giro before the start of his tragedy. To group Contador with Pantani is unfair to the latter IMO.

 

[Red Rick]

I just deleted a bunch of clinic and wayyy off topic posts.

You can drop the clinic talk now.

 

[Escarabajo]

Gosh Red Rick, they keep bringing Pantani into the conversation about Quintana. How can we avoid that talk. Pretty much any name from that era will bring the clinic talk. It is kind of hard.

Ok. Enough is enough.

 

[Moviestar]

Currently in reconnaissance mode in the Alps with JL Arrieta. On the menu: Mont du Chat, le col de Serre Chevalier and l'Izoard. Definitely no Route du Sud for Nairo, although he was mentioned on the startlist.

diariodenavarra.es

 

[Escarabajo]

I am not sure where the news about Route du Sud came from but I knew from long time ago that he would not do it. I guess they put it as an emergency race. But nothing else.

 

[Escarabajo]

Training in the Alps.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/quintana-recons-tour-de-france-climbs/

http://www.revistamundociclistico.com/ruta/23379-tour-de-francia-a-11-dias-del-comienzo-nairo-quintana-hace-reconocimiento-de-etapas-claves.html

This year a different approach to his training was done. I know, I know, He did the Giro and therefore there was a different approach. But not only that changed but he was brought to Europe earlier than usual. I am happy about that because the training in Colombia was becoming more difficult with him being so popular. And also the climate. It is important to acclimatize to that heat in France now.

 

[diego721]

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Training in the Alps.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/quintana-recons-tour-de-france-climbs/

http://www.revistamundociclistico.com/ruta/23379-tour-de-francia-a-11-dias-del-comienzo-nairo-quintana-hace-reconocimiento-de-etapas-claves.html

This year a different approach to his training was done. I know, I know, He did the Giro and therefore there was a different approach. But not only that changed but he was brought to Europe earlier than usual. I am happy about that because the training in Colombia was becoming more difficult with him being so popular. And also the climate. It is important to acclimatize to that heat in France now.

I had been told, hat he didn't even travel this time.

 

[Pantani_lives]

Those two Alpine stages should suit him, especially the finish on the Isouard. He might be on the podium for a fourth consecutive GT.

 

[Escarabajo]

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Training in the Alps.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/quintana-recons-tour-de-france-climbs/

http://www.revistamundociclistico.com/ruta/23379-tour-de-francia-a-11-dias-del-comienzo-nairo-quintana-hace-reconocimiento-de-etapas-claves.html

This year a different approach to his training was done. I know, I know, He did the Giro and therefore there was a different approach. But not only that changed but he was brought to Europe earlier than usual. I am happy about that because the training in Colombia was becoming more difficult with him being so popular. And also the climate. It is important to acclimatize to that heat in France now.

I had been told, hat he didn't even travel this time.

That is strange. I would have assumed that he took at least 10 days off in his home town at altitude.

We'll see if results are positive or better than last year's.

 

[mirunj]

The recently retired climber Sylwester Szmyd has been keeping Nairo company in the Colombian's Tour de France recon. According to Sylwester, Nairo is flying up the French mountains, and if anybody is qualified to appraise another rider's climbing legs, Szmyd is. Unsurprisingly, he tips Quintanta to win the Tour.

Another piece of gossip (albeit it maybe has already been reported - I don't visit this thread often enough) is that Nairo was struggling with muscular pain after his Stage 15 crash on a descent, he was apparently hampered by it to a point where he could barely walk. But, I don't know what to make of that (sour grapes?).

 

[Valv.Piti]

The recently retired climber Sylwester Szmyd has been keeping Nairo company in the Colombian's Tour de France recon. According to Sylwester, Nairo is flying up the French mountains, and if anybody is qualified to appraise another rider's climbing legs, Szmyd is. Unsurprisingly, he tips Quintanta to win the Tour.

Another piece of gossip (albeit it maybe has already been reported - I don't visit this thread often enough) is that Nairo was struggling with muscular pain after his Stage 15 crash on a descent, he was apparently hampered by it to a point where he could barely walk. But, I don't know what to make of that (sour grapes?).

Thats very cool news, certantly! Keep it coming. I like the Szmyd part (where do they even know eachother from?)

 

[mirunj]

The recently retired climber Sylwester Szmyd has been keeping Nairo company in the Colombian's Tour de France recon. According to Sylwester, Nairo is flying up the French mountains, and if anybody is qualified to appraise another rider's climbing legs, Szmyd is. Unsurprisingly, he tips Quintanta to win the Tour.

Another piece of gossip (albeit it maybe has already been reported - I don't visit this thread often enough) is that Nairo was struggling with muscular pain after his Stage 15 crash on a descent, he was apparently hampered by it to a point where he could barely walk. But, I don't know what to make of that (sour grapes?).

Thats very cool news, certantly! Keep it coming. I like the Szmyd part (where do they even know eachother from?)

Szmyd rode for Movistar through 2013-2014 (very quiet seasons indeed, even by his 'domestique' standards), that's where they got to know each other. TBH, I didn't know they were pals or trained together until this morning Szmyd's been running his own coaching business these days (or rolling it out, more like), but still goes to races and rides a lot will Sagan, Kwiat and ... Nairo!

 

[Valv.Piti]

Lol, how did I forget Szmyd rode for Movistar in that period... as you say, he was pretty quiet indeed. But thats interesting fo sure, I wonder how much he dropped Szmyd with on Galibier.

 

[Breh]

Szmyd was such a great domestique.

 

[Moviestar]

A pity we've never got to see the Liquiqas Szmyd with Movistar. Always liked those Polish domestiques like Brozyna and Baranowski in the Banesto-era.

 

[mirunj]

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A pity we've never got to see the Liquiqas Szmyd with Movistar. Always liked those Polish domestiques like Brozyna and Baranowski in the Banesto-era.

Both are still involved in cycling. Brozyna is a directeur sportif at CCC, where his son is riding. Baranowski regularly commentates cycling on Polish ES. Enough with this off-topic

 

[Arked]

Szmyd was able to to predict Kwiatkowski's great form this spring after riding with him. We will see if it's the same with Nairo. It surely would make Tour more interesting.

 

[Valv.Piti]

http://movistarteam.com/news/2017-6-22/quintana-ready-to-take-on-tdf-challenge
Sound analysis by Nairo, I have a feeling he will be pretty strong this upcoming Tour, he really is a big joker.

 

[sir fly]

Good interview.
Assures me we'll have a great race.

 

[Jspear]

Maybe his team was right when they said he'll be better in his second gt......

 

[DFA123]

Very interesting and encouraging news. I guess you'd kind of expect him to be flying at this stage though. It's the third week where it may all catch up with him. But it didn't in the Vuelta last year, and he clearly was well below 100% at the end of the Giro, whether by design or accident. For me, he's still easily the biggest danger to Froome - not least because he's got a team-mate in incredible form who will be able to drop the entire Sky train if needed.

 

[Valv.Piti]

It still feels a bit weird to me he is training with Szmyd, but I guess Sylvester must be a very nice person to be around (that would also explain him being completely selfless during his career, also remember how Valv figted him the stage on Ventoux, Movi connection) and still have quite formidable climbing shape just to keep somewhat up. Just saw the video of them training today, I must admit it got me a bit nostalgic, Szmyd's climbing style is quite stylish.

 

[sir fly]

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It still feels a bit weird to me he is training with , but I guess Sylvester must be a very nice person to be around (that would also explain him being completely selfless during his career, also remember how Valv figted him the stage on Ventoux, Movi connection) and still have quite formidable climbing shape just to keep somewhat up. Just saw the video of them training today, I must admit it got me a bit nostalgic, Szmyd's climbing style is quite stylish.

Maybe Quintana likes how Szmyd's anthem sounds...

 

[Red Rick]

Quintana is an interesting case for this Tour, and the outcome is probably gonna have an impact on his approach to the next few seasons.

 

[perico]

My question is whether Nairo will ride the Vuelta in support of Valverde as Alejandro did (quite selflessly) last year.