Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

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What a stage for Nairo. Did really well. This was Nairo at full steam attacking a full steam Sky Team. Remember when he attacked Sky had at least 4 domestiques. Fab result for him.

Froome finally cracked today. I hope he cracks big time on Friday but I dont see Thomas or Dumoulin crack.

Probably this is how the tour will end 1-2-3
 
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Escarabajo said:
Koronin said:
They let him go. The top 4 had nothing to worry about in letting him have a small amount of time and Landa isn't (or shouldn't) attack his own teammate.
Who let him go?
Those in the top 4. They had time to play with and had no reason to chase. Truthfully had no reason to chase Martin either and he didn't gain all that much time on them. There's at this point still less than a 1% chance he makes the podium.
 
Koronin, they couldn't. They were being paced by Sky domestiques. And from those four I could only see one going with Nairo. That was Thomas. The others couldn't, even with the nice pacing.

And what about all the complaining that nobody can get away from the Sky train in the last mountain. Only applies to other riders and not Quintana?
 
Have to agree that they let him go. They were probably surprised he made it to the end though. Plus the rest still have about 2 mins extra on him in the ITT, so no threat to overall.

Edit, great stage win for him though, confidence boost.
 
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koronin quintana suffer just a bad day on alpe due to the heat , and lose 75 seconds on stage one otherwise he would be on the podium ,he is a very good gt specialist with 6 podiums at 27 years he simply cannot win everytime and he is just 54-55 kg at the end of gt ,He is a very rare talent
 
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telencefalus said:
koronin quintana suffer just a bad day on alpe due to the heat , and lose 75 seconds on stage one otherwise he would be on the podium ,he is a very good gt specialist with 6 podiums at 27 years he simply cannot win everytime and he is just 54-55 kg at the end of gt ,He is a very rare talent

He's 28. He will also lose time in the ITT. He also lost time on the stage before Alpe d'Huez. He hasn't WON a Tour yet. He won the two GT's he's won with some luck.
In case you missed it the top 4 in GC still have over a minute on Quintana AND are all better time trialists.
 
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tour 2015 was lost because Valverde wants the podium and didn't do a gregario like Scarponi that's all

ah and tour of 2013 was also won by Quintana ,but that's a clinic stuff
 
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Escarabajo said:
Hugo Koblet said:
yaco said:
27km solo attack to win a stage in Suisse and then attacking early on a 14km climb to win a stage in the TDF - But i read he is a passive rider.
He's not really passive when chasing stage wins like today. Unfortunately, when it comes to GC riding, he's pretty passive.
He is fifth you know!
Sure, but what's a fifth place for him? No, today was all about the stage win. He needed to gain 6 minutes on Thomas, which he certainly didn't try to do.
 
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RattaKuningas said:
Suddenly he is back again. I wonder what went wrong in the 2nd week because this was a lot stronger Quintana compared to the Quintana that we saw on Alpe D'Huez.
In the 2nd week he was still tired from the first? Whereas now everyone who was less tired from the first (the big Northern Europeans) is now tired from the 2nd week. Bernal is looking stronger this week too.
 
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telencefalus said:
tour 2015 was lost because Valverde wants the podium and didn't do a gregario like Scarponi that's all

ah and tour of 2013 was also won by Quintana ,but that's a clinic stuff
Please stop talking about Quintana to Koronin. I am tired of her criticism and whining about him. Let's enjoy it at least for 1 day. Thanks. :)
 
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Hugo Koblet said:
Escarabajo said:
Hugo Koblet said:
yaco said:
27km solo attack to win a stage in Suisse and then attacking early on a 14km climb to win a stage in the TDF - But i read he is a passive rider.
He's not really passive when chasing stage wins like today. Unfortunately, when it comes to GC riding, he's pretty passive.
He is fifth you know!
Sure, but what's a fifth place for him? No, today was all about the stage win. He needed to gain 6 minutes on Thomas, which he certainly didn't try to do.
I agree that today was about the stage win.
 
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Koronin said:
telencefalus said:
koronin quintana suffer just a bad day on alpe due to the heat , and lose 75 seconds on stage one otherwise he would be on the podium ,he is a very good gt specialist with 6 podiums at 27 years he simply cannot win everytime and he is just 54-55 kg at the end of gt ,He is a very rare talent

He's 28. He will also lose time in the ITT. He also lost time on the stage before Alpe d'Huez. He hasn't WON a Tour yet. He won the two GT's he's won with some luck.
In case you missed it the top 4 in GC still have over a minute on Quintana AND are all better time trialists.
It's fairly obvious to me based on your posts regarding Quintana that he is not in your favor. It appears giving him any credit is a painful task but going all out to defend Valverde is a labor of love. Maybe a bit of bitterness because Quintana has stolen some of Valverde's thunder? Wishing Valverde were free to ride his own race and Quintana's presence compromises those opportunities for Valverde to shine?
 
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AlexNYC said:
I'm very happy for Nairo. You could see by the way he reacted afterwards that this win was very cathartic for him.
I just hope he gets his pre-Tour training in order because he's been struggling for the past couple of years. This victory will definitely be a boost to his morale. It's probably been pretty frustrating for him.
 
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Angliru said:
Koronin said:
telencefalus said:
koronin quintana suffer just a bad day on alpe due to the heat , and lose 75 seconds on stage one otherwise he would be on the podium ,he is a very good gt specialist with 6 podiums at 27 years he simply cannot win everytime and he is just 54-55 kg at the end of gt ,He is a very rare talent

He's 28. He will also lose time in the ITT. He also lost time on the stage before Alpe d'Huez. He hasn't WON a Tour yet. He won the two GT's he's won with some luck.
In case you missed it the top 4 in GC still have over a minute on Quintana AND are all better time trialists.
It's fairly obvious to me based on your posts regarding Quintana that he is not in your favor. It appears giving him any credit is a painful task but going all out to defend Valverde is a labor of love. Maybe a bit of bitterness because Quintana has stolen some of Valverde's thunder? Wishing Valverde were free to ride his own race and Quintana's presence compromises those opportunities for Valverde to shine?

Valverde isn't going to win the Tour just because the French climbs don't fit his style and he struggles with high altitude. The problem with Quintana is that he is a good climber, but he's not shown that he's a great climber for a couple of years and he's not gotten better at time trials. Thus making it even harder to win a GT. Ask Purito about GTs and time trials.
 
Lol @ who thinks he was let go. Nobody could beat him yesterday. Check his time and his power estimate, it's probably his best performance ever. If he's got these watts tomorrow he needs to go early, all of the riders ahead of him in GC can crack.
 
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SafeBet said:
Lol @ who thinks he was let go. Nobody could beat him yesterday. Check his time and his power estimate, it's probably his best performance ever. If he's got these watts tomorrow he needs to go early, all of the riders ahead of him in GC can crack.
Tomorrow is a flat stage with two small cat 4 climbs.
 
I agree with some that he was the strongest yesterday and not just because Sky let him go, it was great to see him back to his best.

However yet again he is in a situation like Froome’s earlier Tour wins where he is best in week 3 but cannot be in good enough shape in the first 2 weeks. I don’t know what he’s doing as preparation, but it obviously isn’t working. How many more Tours is he going to be 3+ minutes down going into the final week?
 

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