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I don't think he looks heavy or really out of form. It just looks like he's lost about 5% of his engine, so at the end of a stage, which basically means that he can make it to the final selection on an MTF but will gradually go backward. His TT'ing is also down. And, if he does have a great day, he's inevitably flat on the following stage. I don't think that's something he'll be able to get back.

But, even a diminished Nairo is a top 5-10 GT talent, so for Arkea that's basically a win right there. Even if he finishes, say, 8th at the TdF or even 5th at the Giro, that's a better result than Barguil will get them.
In the mountains he lost more than 5%. He gained some power in the flats. Go figure.

Tours ans Vuelta with more crosswinds and he has a chance to win it. LOL.
 
In the mountains he lost more than 5%. He gained some power in the flats. Go figure.

Tours ans Vuelta with more crosswinds and he has a chance to win it. LOL.
I mean, that could just be he's struggling to lose a couple of kilos to make his best weight. If he's, at, say, 57 kg instead of 55 kg then that means that 340W FTP is around 5.95W/Kg instead of 6.2W/Kg, then that 4% is the difference between finishing in Alpe d'Huez on the last stage of a hard final week in 39'22" or finishing 1'40" later like Thibaut Pinot, Alejandro Valverde or a fully rested Wout Poels.
I also think he's always been a little fragile health-wise, there are the stories about him being a sickly kid, even in 2014 when he won the Giro he was fighting off a virus. I think he's always had a hard time holding 100%, he has just been able to get results regardless.
A 4th place in a GT farewell is quite a great result - He got his stage win, was part of the overall contention, animated the race & ultimately made the best of it- given the fact that he's departing!! Folks here have been extremely harsh on him, despite6.15 the fact that his Palmares is quite impressive!!

Looking forward to what he can achieve at Arkea,
+1. Even if he can't reach his best again if he can hold his form just a little bit better he should challenge, even against a loaded Tour field. And who knows, he picks the right raid to go on again and he could finally win one.
 
carton, I agree the 5% can be significant on a cyclist like him on a given day. The bigger problem with the higher weight is losing his recuperation skills which can be more damaging. And therefore the inconsistency. You saw how Valverde solved that problem during this Vuelta.
 
carton, I agree the 5% can be significant on a cyclist like him on a given day. The bigger problem with the higher weight is losing his recuperation skills which can be more damaging. And therefore the inconsistency. You saw how Valverde solved that problem during this Vuelta.
I mean, sure, the inconsistency might be explained by a weakened ability to recover. But that's the part that' possibly hard to diagnose or work on. Maybe just solely focusing on one race a la Gerraint Thomas?

The more optimistic case would be that he's had some issues that he hasn't fully been able to work past. But who knows.

On Valverde, yeah, he's been more consistent than ever. But the lack of altitude and the relatively flat last week might also have helped.
 
Valverde isn't more consistent than ever. Both in 2018 and 2019 he had like one standout race at the highest level.
Age has finally caught up with Valverde, in the classics as well but I thought his ride in the Vuelta was very impressive. What wil be interesting now is how Roglic goes against Ineos next season and tougher opposition. Pogacar as well. It's apparent that although Lopez and Quintana are doing their best, in this form they would be nowhere near the Tour podium next season. Eyebrows have to be raised a little when a 20 year old and 39 year old make the podium................
 
Valverde was very impressive in the Vuelta. He's always been very consistent and this Vuelta we saw what he really hadn't seen from him this year was a very high level of consistency through out. Now it helps that it appears la Vuelta also designed a course specifically to give him that one last chance at his record breaking podium. Is it age that caught up to him, or is it simply having won the Worlds and a loss of hunger/desire, we'll likely never know.

With Quintana (back on subject) it appears something happened after 2015 as that was his highest level and he hasn't reached that again.
 
Valverde isn't more consistent than ever. Both in 2018 and 2019 he had like one standout race at the highest level.
My point exactly. In 2019 I think he really focused on the Vuelta and that's one reason why he was unusually consistent at it. In 2018 he actually cracked a bit at Collada de Gallina, just as he has on three-week stage races during most of his career. But then again in 2018 he actually won both Catalunya and Abu Dhabi, which are pretty high-level.

The particularly flat third week aided in that respect. But for stage racers, in particular, timing those peaks also helps.
 
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While we count insignificant records, it was mentioned in NBCS that Nairo just surpassed Fabio Parra in top 10 in GT's. Parra had 10 and now Quintana has 11 with the Vuelta a España.

To be honest I think is significant. That is consistency record. And I had no idea Parra had it. He was a tough dude!!
 
While we count insignificant records, it was mentioned in NBCS that Nairo just surpassed Fabio Parra in top 10 in GT's. Parra had 10 and now Quintana has 11 with the Vuelta a España.

To be honest I think is significant. That is consistency record. And I had no idea Parra had it. He was a tough dude!!
That must be Colombians only. Valverde has 19 - most of all.
 
I think he will continue the TDF Vuelta combo especially if he fails in TDF. So opportunities will be there.
If Arkea doesn't get a World Tour license they won't get a Vuelta Invite. With only 2 wild cards for the next two years la Vuelta will pick 2 of the 3 Spanish Pro Conti teams for their Wild Card teams. With only 2 wild cards none of the Pro Conti teams are required to get invites based on points. It's unlikely they'll get one of the 2 WT licenses for Pro Conti teams. Cofidis will get one and Direct Energie is the most likely (based on points) to get the other one.
 

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