Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

[Bonimenier]

Difficult to say…

I actually think they (UCI and WADA) should consider whom (which rider) it concerns. So if Rider A (here: Nairo) is positive, they should still count in what Nairo gave to global cycling in general, and cycling in Southern America, within the last ten years or so. Also Arkea and Samsic should be rewarded for pushing money into cycling, and not punished.

If Rider B (another rider, from another team) would be positive, they could still sanction him.

Punishing Nairo - IMHO - is not a correct decision, because he‘s a good guy from a good entourage.

You must be on tramadol yourself

 

[hrotha]

No, I‘m serious, actually… Maybe because I like Nairo very much, as a rider, and even more so as a person…

Say no to parasocial relationships (and to Tramadol)

 

[Ilmaestro99]

You must be on tramadol yourself

Not only tramadol I would say

 

[lenric]

No, I‘m serious, actually… Maybe because I like Nairo very much, as a rider, and even more so as a person…

Facts don't care about feelings.

 

[Barnacle Bill]

Brief statement from the team saying they will not be commenting further at this time.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1559935363635941376

"The Arkéa-Samsic team has taken note of the notification from the UCI and received by Nairo Quintana informing him of the presence of Tramadol in two dried blood samples collected during the last Tour de France.

Since March 1, 2019, the UCI Medical Regulations have provided for the prohibition of Tramadol in competition for medical reasons.

Moreover, this violation of the UCI medical regulations does not lead to a suspension for the rider.

The Arkéa-Samsic team will not provide any further comment."

 

[Bonimenier]

Brief statement from the team saying they will not be commenting further at this time.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1559935363635941376

"The Arkéa-Samsic team has taken note of the notification from the UCI and received by Nairo Quintana informing him of the presence of Tramadol in two dried blood samples collected during the last Tour de France.

Since March 1, 2019, the UCI Medical Regulations have provided for the prohibition of Tramadol in competition for medical reasons.

Moreover, this violation of the UCI medical regulations does not lead to a suspension for the rider.

The Arkéa-Samsic team will not provide any further comment."

They might as well made no statement

 

[PhiLiz]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1559953971229474817

View: https://twitter.com/NairoQuinCo/status/1559953971229474817/photo/1


Nairo with the classic DINDU NUFFIN defense.

 

[tobydawq]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1559953971229474817

View: https://twitter.com/NairoQuinCo/status/1559953971229474817/photo/1


Nairo with the classic DINDU NUFFIN defense.

At least we now know that he will be mounted on his bike during the Vuelta.

 

[hrotha]

Well yeah that's the 100% standard verb you'd use in Spanish, nothing remarkable about it

 

[CyclistAbi]

Considering this is not related to doping i won't lose sleep over it.

P.S. Still likely an appeal in regards to disqualification should be made. To try to overturn the decision in regards to disqualification.

 

[Lequack]

Will they now edit him out of the Tour archive footage, or maybe pixelate him?

 

[Oldermanish]

Maybe he has a TUE?

Not supposed to be taking opioids or extreme painkillers to race. That niggling problem about navigation and "operating machinery" type of thing. He probably did have a prescribed regime but the rules are the rules. Nairo has always been a popular and dynamic rider IMO. He should have a suspension, though.

 

[glassmoon]

Brief statement from the team saying they will not be commenting further at this time.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1559935363635941376

"The Arkéa-Samsic team has taken note of the notification from the UCI and received by Nairo Quintana informing him of the presence of Tramadol in two dried blood samples collected during the last Tour de France.

Since March 1, 2019, the UCI Medical Regulations have provided for the prohibition of Tramadol in competition for medical reasons.

Moreover, this violation of the UCI medical regulations does not lead to a suspension for the rider.

The Arkéa-Samsic team will not provide any further comment."

there goes all the MPCC mumbo jumbo out of the window...

 

[Volderke]

It seems some people are confusing things here:

Tramadol is banned by the UCI as they deem riders using it unfit for competition, both because a rider in pain shouldn't compete, and because tramadol is thought to cause undesired side effects (lack of concentration, slower reaction times,...) which are thought to have caused crashes in the last couple of years.

Tramadol is not on the doping list. It's only the UCI (no other sports federation) that banned it, because it's mainly used in cycling and not so much in other sports.

So Quintana can't get a doping ban. He can get punished, as a first offense results in a DSQ and fine, a second offense (using tramadol) results in 5 months suspension (and a fine) and a third offense in a 9 month suspension.

ps: I have used prescribed tramadol, and it worked wonders to relieve post-op pain, but I got habituated after 2 weeks and thus stopped as it didn't have any effect anymore. I didn't have any noticeable side effects.

 

[Volderke]

Quintana is not starting the Vuelta. Probably some (mostly) team pressure involved?

 

[Ulle97]

Ah seriously????
Was looking forward to seeing Nairo race here as he always does well in the Vuelta.
I wonder why he pulled out despite being allowed to race??
Perhaps he feels too much uncertainty!!

 

[glassmoon]

bad publicity, constant talk about PEDS whenever he is on camera, MPCC would look like a joke from now on, no chance to win anyways, etc.

I'd say it is a wise decision from team (I think it's not his idea for sure)

 

[Elos Anjos]

Things don't look good.

 

[Ulle97]

Will he race again this year??? Is there any stage race that might suit him that is left in the calendar?
Or is his main race now fighting for his Tour results to be reinstated?

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

Appealing to CAS now as well. I wonder if that is a reaction to his (potentially team advised) exclusion or if he was gonna do it anyway.

 

[glassmoon]

Appealing to CAS now as well. I wonder if that is a reaction to his (potentially team advised) exclusion or if he was gonna do it anyway.

or maybe TdF DSQ? who knows...

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Appealing to CAS now as well. I wonder if that is a reaction to his (potentially team advised) exclusion or if he was gonna do it anyway.

He wrote on Twitter I think that he isn‘t starting so he can appeal to CAS. His team might still have excluded him though

 

[frisenfruitig]

Either way you look at it, you have to be really fcking stupid to take Tramadol as a professional cyclist, especially in the TDF when the chances are so much higher for it to be detected. It's quite baffling honestly

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

He wrote on Twitter I think that he isn‘t starting so he can appeal to CAS. His team might still have excluded him though

Ah okay, so the other way around. Well he better be sure to be able to win his case, if he just wanted to save face it would've probably been better just to go on and ride the Vuelta hoping people just forget about the whole episode as quickly as possible.

 

[IndianCyclist]

Considering this is not related to doping i won't lose sleep over it.

P.S. Still likely an appeal in regards to disqualification should be made. To try to overturn the decision in regards to disqualification.

Nairo also isn't going to lose any sleep. He's got a 3 year contract. He does not even have to suffer in the Vuelta. He can go back to enjoying being on Television.