Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

[fmk_RoI]

Tratnik

James Shaw.

Ion Aberasturi also returned to the WT after 8 years of waiting.

I think I would have expected more riders to be Moneyballing their way back having hit speedbumps early in/midway through their career but still provided value in the bush leagues.

Zoidl

Made it back to the back of the peloton only to be shelled out again after a single season?

Pellizoti is one I think.

No, he only dropped to Androni, which is Arkea for sinners needing a spell in purgatory.

Danilo Hondo did it before the WT existed.
Ángel Vicioso rode for a few teams in-between his time at Kelme and Katusha.
Rubé Plaza also rode for a conti team in-between his two Abarca stays.

Probably closest to Lopez/Quintana territory, I guess.

 

[search]

Guillaume Boivin also went from WT to CT and back to WT. Gaimon as well.

 

[Netserk]

Marko Kump.

 

[yaco]

Adam Blythe.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Chris Horner

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Jonathan Dibben did as well.

 

[Ricco']

Taco van der Hoorn as well.

Although he only was a CT rider for a month or so.

 

[staubsauger]

Question: name a former WT rider who, after dropping down to a Conti outfit, made it back to a WT team.

Jose Humberto Rujano Guillen!

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Jose Humberto Rujano Guillen!

No, but he did ride for a non-UCI team before he went back to WT level.

 

[StryderHells]

Does either want the other? Q has made it clear he wants to be a WT rider.

Lachlan Morton and Cameron Meyer.

 

[RedheadDane]

Lachlan Morton and Cameron Meyer.

You quoted one part of the post, but replied to... another...

 

[staubsauger]

No, but he did ride for a non-UCI team before he went back to WT level.

Gobernacion del Zulia wasn't even UCI registered?

 

[fmk_RoI]

No, but he did ride for a non-UCI team before he went back to WT level.

Actually, yes, for reading the meaning of the words it's about dropping from the big league to the bush league and coming back and you don't get much more bush league than a team like Gobernación Del Zulia, do you?

 

[fmk_RoI]

Gaimon

Chris Horner

Much and all as I love F Scott Fitzgerald, it has to be noted he was full of crap when he said there are no second acts in American lives.

 

[StryderHells]

You quoted one part of the post, but replied to... another...

Yes I did

 

[RedheadDane]

Yes I did

Are you implying Lachlan Morton and Cameron Meyer might have something to do with whether Quintana want to sign for Savio's team?

 

[fmk_RoI]

Are you implying Lachlan Morton and Cameron Meyer might have something to do with whether Quintana want to sign for Savio's team?

Even I understood the error and thought it hardly worth noting.

But if you must be a pedant about these things: yes it might have something to do with whether Quintana want to sign for Savio's team insofar as both riders show that a time-out in the minor leagues doesn't have to rule out a return to the top flight.

 

[Tonton]

Nairo Quintana is the new Oscar Sevilla?

 

[Kaptain Kool]

ASO invites might be be relevant for Savio but his team is still MPCC. Wouldn't that be a complication, anyway?

 

[Oldermanish]

Chris Horner

Chris went to the well in the US. That he won the Vuelta was a one off in time.

 

[RedheadDane]

Even I understood the error and thought it hardly worth noting.

I just thought it was funny.

 

[fmk_RoI]

Movement for a Credible Cycling praises teams for not signing Nairo Quintana

Are the MPCC really patting their members on the back for following MPCC rules? Or is this another acknowledgement that there isn't really a rule blocking them from hiring Quintana?

"Transparency, responsibility and our members’ engagement are the pillars of our identity," claims the MPCC. But there is zero transparency on what rule actually stops MPCC members from hiring a rider who did not fail an anti-doping test.

Nor is transparency helped by the MPCC yet again releasing a set of bogus doping stats, this year inventing two WorldTour doping cases:

The MPCC included Nairo Quintana’s positive tests for tramadol during the 2022 Tour de France in their statistics. Since March 2019, tramadol has been banned for in-competition use by the UCI, though testing positive for tramadol doesn't constitute a WADA anti-doping rule violation.

 

[Billie]

This is a witchhunt against Quintana. No idea why...

One of the MPCC teams signed a guy who is currently in the midst of a 2 year ** suspension couple months ago...?

 

[yaco]

I suspect this is more coming from the UCI - I doubt they were happy that Quintana appealed his case to CAS which was a bizarre decision on his behalf.

 

[fmk_RoI]

I suspect this is more coming from the UCI

I'd say it is MPCC. They have taken a stance against tramadol. Even if their rules don't actually allow it, of course they don't want Quintana riding for an MPCC team. ASO supporting the MPCC - which they have for more than a decade now - amplifies the issue. For the UCI, catching Quintana is actually a win, it justifies the money spent on DBS testing.