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I think people really overestimate how much time you can gain with climbing if the main competition consists of the other top climbers in the world. Gaps of 1 min are incredibly rare. Froome didn't manage that in his 2013 Tour (though only Porte prevented it from happening). Nibali managed it once against B level competition only by attacking from 10k out, having the confidence to do so only because he had a huge lead.
It's just going to be very hard to correct the stg 2 mistake even if Quintana turns out to be the best climber in the third week.
It's just going to be very hard to correct the stg 2 mistake even if Quintana turns out to be the best climber in the third week.
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I think for quintana it will all be about limiting his losses in the first two weeks because I expect froomes like in 2013 which means alien mode in the first two weeks but some weakness in the last one. There quintana has 3 mtf's which means that if he is really stronger than froome, he can get a lot of time there.
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I'm betting in this kind of stage Valverde has a fairly free role (like Quintana had in '13) because so much time can be lost if a split happens. Also he'd get a free ride and a shot for a stage win (no way was he pulling after that last break, even though you could tell he was itching to). Izaguirre and Castroviejo were there for Quintana most of the way. In the mountains I'm guessing it'll be a different story.qwer said:
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He still has to fight for not loosing time the rest of this week. So no time to think about that yet.
I agree with you. He has to rely on a crack by another big rider and take little bites of time each stage. Like he did on Stage 20 of Tour 2013.SeriousSam said:
He still has to fight for not loosing time the rest of this week. So no time to think about that yet.
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You're probably right, but I'd still be nervous for Froome if he is currently peaking. If by the last week Nibali and/or Contador has no interest in seriously chasing GC, and Sky are left with a tired Roche, Porte and Konig and "one bad day" Kennaugh and Poels too, I would say Movistar had the possibility of taking back serious time over the daily grind of mountains.
SeriousSam said:
You're probably right, but I'd still be nervous for Froome if he is currently peaking. If by the last week Nibali and/or Contador has no interest in seriously chasing GC, and Sky are left with a tired Roche, Porte and Konig and "one bad day" Kennaugh and Poels too, I would say Movistar had the possibility of taking back serious time over the daily grind of mountains.
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Great battle by our Nairoman today!
Almost on his own he was fighting at the back of the main groups during sectors, so I think he is at a good form!
What Im more concerend about is his team, like wtf? Especially for TTT I dont think Malori and Castroviejo have a good form and Dowsett has 6 stitches after today's carnage...
Before today's stage I thought that they will gain time at least against 2 oponnents teams (probably Saxo and Astana), now we have to hope they will limit their losses.It will be really crucial if they all have 9 rider teams (which is not certain as sprinters stages are coming!)
Now Movistar(!) has to help Nairo to get thru the wind stage and all dangerous finishes - Nairoman will probably loose about 10secs at Mur de Bretagne, but after that ttt I hope he will be around 2 minutes down on the first main favourite (probably Froome)
So far so good(great)...
Almost on his own he was fighting at the back of the main groups during sectors, so I think he is at a good form!
What Im more concerend about is his team, like wtf? Especially for TTT I dont think Malori and Castroviejo have a good form and Dowsett has 6 stitches after today's carnage...
Before today's stage I thought that they will gain time at least against 2 oponnents teams (probably Saxo and Astana), now we have to hope they will limit their losses.It will be really crucial if they all have 9 rider teams (which is not certain as sprinters stages are coming!)
Now Movistar(!) has to help Nairo to get thru the wind stage and all dangerous finishes - Nairoman will probably loose about 10secs at Mur de Bretagne, but after that ttt I hope he will be around 2 minutes down on the first main favourite (probably Froome
)So far so good(great)
...I highly doubt Froome is peaking for first week. Why would he? It is not like he actually saw an opportunity to gain time in first 8 stages before the race. He is just insanely strong and will get even stronger.
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Should be a great Tour with Nabili and Contador still in the mix
You are right, its a nonsense to peak for a first week, he is certainly trying to peak in the 3rd.OTOH I think Quintana will be even better in the 3rd, but it depends how much time he will lose till 1st mountains.damian13ster said:
Should be a great Tour with Nabili and Contador still in the mix
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There's a big difference in being the team leader and being allowed to seek your own way in the first week in order for the team to keep both options open if anything happens to one of them, which is what everyone expected. Every other dom only cared about Nairito.
Anyway, he did very well today with this little team support, the biggest fear for this stage. Of course a bit lucky Contador was also dropped so he could benefit from the work of Tinkoff but great job nonetheless.
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There's a big difference in being the team leader and being allowed to seek your own way in the first week in order for the team to keep both options open if anything happens to one of them, which is what everyone expected. Every other dom only cared about Nairito.
Anyway, he did very well today with this little team support, the biggest fear for this stage. Of course a bit lucky Contador was also dropped so he could benefit from the work of Tinkoff but great job nonetheless.
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To be honest maybe thats only my big hope because I see no other reason how this tour can get really exciting in terms of the fight for the gc.
Because he won the dauphine. That means his shape was already pretty good three weeks before the tour. Moreover in 2013 it was the same situation with the win of the dauphine and then a superb performance in the first two weeks of the tour. However in 2013 there were stronger riders in the third week so I think its absolutely possible that we will see something like in 2013 again.damian13ster said:
To be honest maybe thats only my big hope because I see no other reason how this tour can get really exciting in terms of the fight for the gc.
He was not as dominant in Dauphine as in 2013. Plus, who was peaking for Dauphine this year that could challenge him?
Don't fool yourself. He will be at his best in 3rd week, same as other contenders. Just has a really good base and he is riding perfectly when it comes to tactics
Don't fool yourself. He will be at his best in 3rd week, same as other contenders. Just has a really good base and he is riding perfectly when it comes to tactics
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funny how people here, quintana-haters, are spinning quintana's great cobble ride in something bad. if one thing quintana was very well placed, without help, and didn't waste nearly as much energy as froome did
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Ok let's look at the comments of the Quintana haters...
That's every single comment about the cobbled stage in this thread, from newest to oldest. Truly some hateful, bile-filled comments there. But hey, don't let mere reality stand in the way of a good persecution complex.
Ryo Hazuki said:
Ok let's look at the comments of the Quintana haters...
Flamin said:
ILovecycling said:
Carols said:
DBotero said:
Eclipse said:
Moviestar said:
Gigs_98 said:
AlexNYC said:
That's every single comment about the cobbled stage in this thread, from newest to oldest. Truly some hateful, bile-filled comments there. But hey, don't let mere reality stand in the way of a good persecution complex.
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I really don't understand your point in this sentencedamian13ster said:
Whatever, I try to explain it to you differently. The only other Big 4 rider, who rode the dauphine was nibali. Nibali was miles worse than froome, now do you really expect froome will still be that much better than vincenzo in the tdf? If yes then okay, froome is peaking for 3rd week but if no that means froome might loose advantage on nibali as long as the race goes --> he isn't peaking the 3rd week or at least not as good as nibali does. Moreover I think everyone forgets that in 2013 froome actually got most of his advantage out of the ITT. On the mtf's he hardly gained time or at least not much more than this year.
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I'm surprised that Ryo hasn't renounced Quintana now that it has emerged that Quintana is a gender equality activist.
carton said:
I'm surprised that Ryo hasn't renounced Quintana now that it has emerged that Quintana is a gender equality activist.
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