Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

[cellardoor]

Quintana is a proven master at coming good in the 3rd week. Despite his time-loss, he's very much in striking distance in my view and I think he's done the best so far at quietly conserving energy.

 

[Ataraxus]

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I also take in bonus seconds.

froome being stronger than 2013 seems no ground to be based on. quintana definitely is. froome will be empty just as he was in other final weeks'of gt's.

Tour 2013 didn't have bonus seconds! So it's 1:35 to the second.
And "being stronger than 2013" is much different than "being more prepared for the third week than the third week of 2013"

I'll bookmark the bolden part and we'll talk at the end of the Tour. I'll give you the Tour of 2013 as reference. Because you clearly hurry to much into the comments to take into consideration the Vuelta 2011 and 2014 and Tour 2012.

 

[SeriousSam]

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I also take in bonus seconds.

froome being stronger than 2013 seems no ground to be based on. quintana definitely is. froome will be empty just as he was in other final weeks'of gt's.

He didn't seem to be empty in the most recent GT he completed.

 

[Bronstein]

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I also take in bonus seconds.

froome being stronger than 2013 seems no ground to be based on. quintana definitely is. froome will be empty just as he was in other final weeks'of gt's.

He didn't seem to be empty in the most recent GT he completed.

Didn't seem empty during the final week of the 2012 Tour either.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

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I also take in bonus seconds.

froome being stronger than 2013 seems no ground to be based on. quintana definitely is. froome will be empty just as he was in other final weeks'of gt's.

He didn't seem to be empty in the most recent GT he completed.

you mean the vuelta 2014?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

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I also take in bonus seconds.

froome being stronger than 2013 seems no ground to be based on. quintana definitely is. froome will be empty just as he was in other final weeks'of gt's.

He didn't seem to be empty in the most recent GT he completed.

Didn't seem empty during the final week of the 2012 Tour either.

no wonder when you softpedal for 3 weeks and have a total of one and a half mountainstage

 

[DBotero]

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I also take in bonus seconds.

froome being stronger than 2013 seems no ground to be based on. quintana definitely is. froome will be empty just as he was in other final weeks'of gt's.

I think this one was in the first week too.

 

[ray j willings]

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Be interesting to see what Quintana does if he senses weakness in TJ and Bertie but not Froome tomorrow, will he try to take back time on them with Froome.

When you say Quintana " senses" do you think he has special mind powers.
Can he do other things with his powers, can he levitate or are his special powers only of the mind

 

[Singer01]

i don't think tomorrows stage is ideal for Quintana to take time off froome, the steep part is at the beginning, so even if he drops froome the last few K favour him getting back on to him. though i'd like to see it.

with regards to froome there is more evidence that froome is strong in week 3 than weak.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

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i don't think tomorrows stage is ideal for Quintana to take time off froome, the steep part is at the beginning, so even if he drops froome the last few K favour him getting back on to him. though i'd like to see it.

with regards to froome there is more evidence that froome is strong in week 3 than weak.

what evidence exactly?

 

[ILovecycling]

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i don't think tomorrows stage is ideal for Quintana to take time off froome, the steep part is at the beginning, so even if he drops froome the last few K favour him getting back on to him. though i'd like to see it.

with regards to froome there is more evidence that froome is strong in week 3 than weak.

yep its a *** stage for Quintana, worst possible mountains stage if you ask me
1)after a rest day 2)flat till the mountain 3)like you said, steep in its middle 4) flat at the top .
Tomoroz its about finding how he can beat Froome or how their climbing levels are, probably not to lose more than 10 secs in a final sprint to the line.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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i don't think tomorrows stage is ideal for Quintana to take time off froome, the steep part is at the beginning, so even if he drops froome the last few K favour him getting back on to him. though i'd like to see it.

with regards to froome there is more evidence that froome is strong in week 3 than weak.

what evidence exactly?

Vuelta '11, Tour '12, Tour '13, Vuelta '14.

 

[Netserk]

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i don't think tomorrows stage is ideal for Quintana to take time off froome, the steep part is at the beginning, so even if he drops froome the last few K favour him getting back on to him. though i'd like to see it.

with regards to froome there is more evidence that froome is strong in week 3 than weak.

what evidence exactly?

Vuelta '11, Tour '12, Tour '13, Vuelta '14.

Really?

 

[damian13ster]

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Maybe, if he hasn't used past tense (that's why I bolded the word 'looked'). Might be a bit of a grammar police, but if it was in fact an error then it totally changed the meaning of the post, making it quite comical and plain wrong.

If he meant that Quintana might perform better in the rest of the Tour than Froome because it looked like he wasted less energy (which I agree with due to TTT in which he was given pretty much a free ride) then I won't argue against that, it is plausible. 2 minute loss is huge though for a rider with such a limited skillset though, and might be impossible to overcome.

lolz I would like my skillset to be limited to those 90vo2max

you are reallly funny guy

I mean that he won't ride away from Froome on descent, he won't outsprint him for bonus seconds either (probably going to lose some more time this way, starting tommorow). Also, Movistar does not seem stronger than Sky. The only chance of him winning is Froome cracking very badly, that's why I said limited skillset.

 

[DBotero]

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i don't think tomorrows stage is ideal for Quintana to take time off froome, the steep part is at the beginning, so even if he drops froome the last few K favour him getting back on to him. though i'd like to see it.

with regards to froome there is more evidence that froome is strong in week 3 than weak.

what evidence exactly?

Vuelta '11, Tour '12, Tour '13, Vuelta '14.

Really?

Stage 20 looked pretty strong to me

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

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i don't think tomorrows stage is ideal for Quintana to take time off froome, the steep part is at the beginning, so even if he drops froome the last few K favour him getting back on to him. though i'd like to see it.

with regards to froome there is more evidence that froome is strong in week 3 than weak.

what evidence exactly?

Vuelta '11, Tour '12, Tour '13, Vuelta '14.

lol @ all of that

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

he's ready!

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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i don't think tomorrows stage is ideal for Quintana to take time off froome, the steep part is at the beginning, so even if he drops froome the last few K favour him getting back on to him. though i'd like to see it.

with regards to froome there is more evidence that froome is strong in week 3 than weak.

what evidence exactly?

Vuelta '11, Tour '12, Tour '13, Vuelta '14.

Really?

Well, he might not have been that strong (or perhaps he had an offday), but he was decent on stage 20 and he won the ITT. But you're right, 2013 probably wasn't the best example.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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i don't think tomorrows stage is ideal for Quintana to take time off froome, the steep part is at the beginning, so even if he drops froome the last few K favour him getting back on to him. though i'd like to see it.

with regards to froome there is more evidence that froome is strong in week 3 than weak.

what evidence exactly?

Vuelta '11, Tour '12, Tour '13, Vuelta '14.

lol @ all of that

So Froome was weak in the third week in '13?

 

[Singer01]

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i don't think tomorrows stage is ideal for Quintana to take time off froome, the steep part is at the beginning, so even if he drops froome the last few K favour him getting back on to him. though i'd like to see it.

with regards to froome there is more evidence that froome is strong in week 3 than weak.

what evidence exactly?

as mentioned above he has finished 5 grand tours since his breakthrough
11 vuelta - strong in last week
12 tour - strong in last week
12 vuelta - weak in last week, but coming off a tour
13 tour - weak ish, but had little reason to really push himself (but clearly Quintana was strongest).
14 vuelta - strong in last week

 

[Moviestar]

Froomey declares by himself that he was running out of energy midway the 2013 Tour. "In 2013 I had just won all races in the run, but halfway through the Tour i was running out of energy.''

 

[Vasilis]

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Froomey declares by himself that he was running out of energy midway the 2013 Tour. "In 2013 I had just won all races in the run, but halfway through the Tour i was running out of energy.''

Yes, and also that things are different this year, he's getting stronger and hasn't had such a tiring early season.

 

[Miburo]

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he's ready!

Got your material for when you're lonely at night.

 

[Pantani Attacks]

The Monk might shock the world tomorrow and ride into yellow.

 

[Metabolol]

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he's ready!

Great picture.