Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

[Jspear]

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More than decent time trial today, very hard course for Nairo today and the wind obviously affected the race.. If he continues winning 3-4 stage races every year, he will reach and surpass Contador in the near future.

He's already to old to surpass AC in GT's....(are those considered stage races?)

 

[Valv.Piti]

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More than decent time trial today, very hard course for Nairo today and the wind obviously affected the race.. If he continues winning 3-4 stage races every year, he will reach and surpass Contador in the near future.

He's already to old to surpass AC in GT's....(are those considered stage races?)

I was just talking about stage races. And yes, being the pinnacle of stage races I assume they are considered stage races as well. The count is 22-14 by the way. Valverde has 17, Froome 13, Nibali 12.

And no, chances are he won't reach that number of GT's, but who knows. If its 7 Grand Tours we are talking about, I think he has a decent shot at reaching that.

 

[yaco]

Quintana wins - It's often under-rated in sports.

 

[Jspear]

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More than decent time trial today, very hard course for Nairo today and the wind obviously affected the race.. If he continues winning 3-4 stage races every year, he will reach and surpass Contador in the near future.

He's already to old to surpass AC in GT's....(are those considered stage races?)

I was just talking about stage races. And yes, being the pinnacle of stage races I assume they are considered stage races as well. The count is 22-14 by the way. Valverde has 17, Froome 13, Nibali 12.

And no, chances are he won't reach that number of GT's, but who knows. If its 7 Grand Tours we are talking about, I think he has a decent shot at reaching that.

I'll never say never, but I still highly doubt he'll reach 7. Especially if Froome is still superman for another 2 years. No doubt he'll win the Giro this year. (that'll only be 3 gt's) I'd love to see him win the Tour as well (because I don't think AC can, So Quintana is my second pick), but realistically I don't think that'll happen. He's running out of time.

 

[AlexNYC]

He has more than a decent chance to reach 7 GTs. To reach or surpass 9, he'll need at least 2 years where he wins 2.

 

[AlexNYC]

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More than decent time trial today, very hard course for Nairo today and the wind obviously affected the race.. If he continues winning 3-4 stage races every year, he will reach and surpass Contador in the near future.

He's already to old to surpass AC in GT's....(are those considered stage races?)

I was just talking about stage races. And yes, being the pinnacle of stage races I assume they are considered stage races as well. The count is 22-14 by the way. Valverde has 17, Froome 13, Nibali 12.

And no, chances are he won't reach that number of GT's, but who knows. If its 7 Grand Tours we are talking about, I think he has a decent shot at reaching that.

I'll never say never, but I still highly doubt he'll reach 7. Especially if Froome is still superman for another 2 years. No doubt he'll win the Giro this year. (that'll only be 3 gt's) I'd love to see him win the Tour as well (because I don't think AC can, So Quintana is my second pick), but realistically I don't think that'll happen. He's running out of time.

You think Quintana is running out of time to win the Tour? He's 27... How long before Froome starts declining? It's not a sure thing, but it is very likely Nairo will win at least one Tour.

Edit: Ok, very likely is too optimistic; but if he stays healthy, I think he has at least five years where he should be at the very top of his form and there's a good chance he will win the Tour in that time.

 

[Mr.White]

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More than decent time trial today, very hard course for Nairo today and the wind obviously affected the race.. If he continues winning 3-4 stage races every year, he will reach and surpass Contador in the near future.

He's already to old to surpass AC in GT's....(are those considered stage races?)

I was just talking about stage races. And yes, being the pinnacle of stage races I assume they are considered stage races as well. The count is 22-14 by the way. Valverde has 17, Froome 13, Nibali 12.

And no, chances are he won't reach that number of GT's, but who knows. If its 7 Grand Tours we are talking about, I think he has a decent shot at reaching that.

as time goes by, more and more we'll talk about 7 GT's, unfotunatelly Don't know if he can reach that number, it's possible, but it's going to be very hard. 9 seems unreachable

 

[Jspear]

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More than decent time trial today, very hard course for Nairo today and the wind obviously affected the race.. If he continues winning 3-4 stage races every year, he will reach and surpass Contador in the near future.

He's already to old to surpass AC in GT's....(are those considered stage races?)

I was just talking about stage races. And yes, being the pinnacle of stage races I assume they are considered stage races as well. The count is 22-14 by the way. Valverde has 17, Froome 13, Nibali 12.

And no, chances are he won't reach that number of GT's, but who knows. If its 7 Grand Tours we are talking about, I think he has a decent shot at reaching that.

I'll never say never, but I still highly doubt he'll reach 7. Especially if Froome is still superman for another 2 years. No doubt he'll win the Giro this year. (that'll only be 3 gt's) I'd love to see him win the Tour as well (because I don't think AC can, So Quintana is my second pick), but realistically I don't think that'll happen. He's running out of time.

You think Quintana is running out of time to win the Tour? He's 27... How long before Froome starts declining? It's not a sure thing, but it is very likely Nairo will win at least one Tour.

Edit: Ok, very likely is too optimistic; but if he stays healthy, I think he has at least five years where he should be at the very top of his form and there's a good chance he will win the Tour in that time.

I didn't form that paragraph very well. He's running out of time to reach the goal of 7 gt wins.

Yeah, I think he'll win at least one Tour in his career, but that might not be for another two years. Right now Froome seems unstoppable. Of course anything can happen.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Quintana looks pretty much unbeatable to me. Even if Nibali gets better, he is not of that level

 

[Valv.Piti]

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More than decent time trial today, very hard course for Nairo today and the wind obviously affected the race.. If he continues winning 3-4 stage races every year, he will reach and surpass Contador in the near future.

He's already to old to surpass AC in GT's....(are those considered stage races?)

I was just talking about stage races. And yes, being the pinnacle of stage races I assume they are considered stage races as well. The count is 22-14 by the way. Valverde has 17, Froome 13, Nibali 12.

And no, chances are he won't reach that number of GT's, but who knows. If its 7 Grand Tours we are talking about, I think he has a decent shot at reaching that.

as time goes by, more and more we'll talk about 7 GT's, unfotunatelly Don't know if he can reach that number, it's possible, but it's going to be very hard. 9 seems unreachable

He definitely can win 7 with decent luck and marginals, 9 is out of reach, yes.

 

[AlexNYC]

Great article on the front page: http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/quintana-turns-focus-to-giro-ditalia-after-tirreno-adriatico-win/

I know it's been said many times, but he is very mature and clear headed for his age, and for any age really.

 

[Cookster15]

Of course Quintana can win 7. He's only 27 years old, has 4 years up his sleeve compared to Froome and still not at his physiological peak, Froome is now 31, doesn't ride all the same GTs as Quintana and Froome doesn't target the Giro or Vuelta like he does the TdF. In two years Quintana will likely be stronger than Froome at the TdF. In 3 years, Quintana will definitely have the edge on Froome mano a mano.

 

[carton]

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He definitely can win 7 with decent luck and marginals, 9 is out of reach, yes.

As he admitted as much this week, Froome has been stronger than him.

Still, he won two GTs the last two years and was leading the vuelta in '15 when he crashed out. He Who Must Not Be Named had zero grand tours to his name when he was the same age. On what I've seen from them, of the young stars (Bardet, Chaves, Aru, Pinot, the twins) and even the up-and-comers (Soler, Lopez, Latour, Formolo, Carthy), the only one that has shown me he can take time off Quintana either uphill or against the clock is Thibopino (fellow 1990 babies -boy that was a good vintage- Drill Sargent Dennis and Major Tom have to show me at least top 5 at a Grand Tour before I'll add them to the list).

So while I think he probably won't get past the handful, he certainly still has an outside chance of at least seven.

But this year will tell us a little more.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Of course Quintana can win 7. He's only 27 years old, has 4 years up his sleeve compared to Froome and still not at his physiological peak, Froome is now 31, doesn't ride all the same GTs as Quintana and Froome doesn't target the Giro or Vuelta like he does the TdF. In two years Quintana will likely be stronger than Froome at the TdF. In 3 years, Quintana will definitely have the edge on Froome mano a mano.

Quintana might have the edge mano a mano already this year, at 100% psychically, but likely won't show it if thats the case due to the Giro. I don't know how likely that is tho, I have a really hard time judging Froome, but I've never seen Quintana this comfortable. He is riding with such ease and composure at the moment, its honestly a joy to watch.

By the way, at 27 years of age, here is what 'the big 4 had won':

Quintana - 14
Contador - 11
Nibali - 4
Froome - 0

 

[Netserk]

At 27 (on the birthday, obviously), Quintana had won 12 stage races. I'd take 2 Tours over three week long stage races

 

[Valv.Piti]

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At 27 (on the birthday, obviously), Quintana had won 12 stage races. I'd take 2 Tours over three week long stage races

Route du Sud any day.

 

[staubsauger]

Once Quintana becomes the overwhelming top climber we gonna have 60-80 kilometers of tt's in the grand tours again to favor Dumoulin.

 

[Escarabajo]

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Once Quintana becomes the overwhelming top climber we gonna have 60-80 kilometers of tt's in the grand tours again to favor Dumoulin.

Let them clash a la Pantani-Ullrich!

 

[staubsauger]

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Once Quintana becomes the overwhelming top climber we gonna have 60-80 kilometers of tt's in the grand tours again to favor Dumoulin.

Let them clash a la Pantani-Ullrich!

This!

 

[del1962]

I think Quintana has a great chance of more than 7 GTs, he has maybe 7 or 8 more seasons at the top.

 

[Red Rick]

If there's one thing I've learnt from following sports closely, it's too never look too far ahead.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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I think Quintana has a great chance of more than 7 GTs, he has maybe 7 or 8 more seasons at the top.

I wouldn't say great chance, but he definitely has a decent shot at getting 7 at some point due to his professionalism and killer instinct, just win, ya know? He also has one thing that Contador never had which is of great significance in the long run, the same team and one of the best at that, only Sky is better when it comes to GTs.

But let him win the double this year, then we will talk.

 

[lenric]

If he can win 1 GT per year (average), then I believe he will reach 7 GTs.

 

[red zone]

it's very hard to predict how many he can win since we not only have to evaluate him but also who'll his competition will be in the future

if he stays healthy and motivated he could easily hit 7 or even more if no one steps up after Bertie and then Froome retire

 

[IndianCyclist]

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it's very hard to predict how many he can win since we not only have to evaluate him but also who'll his competition will be in the future

if he stays healthy and motivated he could easily hit 7 or even more if no one steps up after Bertie and then Froome retire

Not only that the organizers will make it more time trail friendly for better competition