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....and there are these semi-fact thingees to consider....
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20249740/jay-cutler-change-miami-dolphins-2017-nfl-season-outlook
Cheers
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20249740/jay-cutler-change-miami-dolphins-2017-nfl-season-outlook
Cheers
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Listening to Mark Schlereth today on FOX, and he made the same statement above and added that knowing Gase's system, he also knows the terminology/language, whereas someone like Kaep would have to either learn the language or the team would have to change their system for Kaep. The latter would not happen. In either case, Mark said it was a no brainer from a system standpoint that they signed Cutler. Heap onto that the Kaep/Castro thingee and signing Kaep was a dead horse out of the gate.blutto said:
Schlereth, having played for Denver, has some insider knowledge on the Paxton Lynch situation. He said Lynch, having played in a spread system in college, is still struggling with learning the pro style offense. No longer can Lynch, or anyone who played in a spread system, simply look at the sideline, read cards like firetruck, then run a play to a designated receiver.
The door has almost closed for Kaep
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2017/aug/07/colin-kaepernick-baltimore-ravens-nfl-miami-dolphins
i thought the Ravens would have been one of the best choices. Kaep must have known that Miami was going to be a stretch. It seems that only more injuries to QBs could possibly get him and RGIII on the field now and teams will be concerned about RGIII on that point anyway, and they would be smart enough to use the situation to keep Kaep's contract amount down.No one has mentioned much about money so far although Kaep hinted at the fact a few months ago that he wouldn't be looking for big dollars whatever that means. The other option is that a team has a terrible start to the season with a back up QB which is possible but at the moment it seems that there is more likelihood that Romo could come out of retirement and get a job before Kaep did. The Jets probably were not interested because their coach is expected to be a casualty quite soon and they are heading for a 49ers type situation with a rebuild.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2017/aug/07/colin-kaepernick-baltimore-ravens-nfl-miami-dolphins
i thought the Ravens would have been one of the best choices. Kaep must have known that Miami was going to be a stretch. It seems that only more injuries to QBs could possibly get him and RGIII on the field now and teams will be concerned about RGIII on that point anyway, and they would be smart enough to use the situation to keep Kaep's contract amount down.No one has mentioned much about money so far although Kaep hinted at the fact a few months ago that he wouldn't be looking for big dollars whatever that means. The other option is that a team has a terrible start to the season with a back up QB which is possible but at the moment it seems that there is more likelihood that Romo could come out of retirement and get a job before Kaep did. The Jets probably were not interested because their coach is expected to be a casualty quite soon and they are heading for a 49ers type situation with a rebuild.
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Huge vitriol towards him - real intense hatred.
I really doubt that a PR dept could really control the spin well enough to keep the fans (and monday quarterbacks) happy, as was suggested previously...
(Yes, I'm aware that the callers may only represent a small portion of actual raven fans, but man, they were fired up!)
I came across a Baltimore [internet] radio station over the weekend, and Kaep was the hot topic. I was surprised that while the pundits were a bit more rational, and with similar viewpoints to what's been posted here, the general feeling from dozens of callers was that they hated him. Lots of calls to stop supporting the ravens if they signed him. More than one caller did the Vick comparison... "Vick hurt some dogs, but Kap hurt the country" was the standout. Some serious butthurt over the flag thing.movingtarget said:
Huge vitriol towards him - real intense hatred.
I really doubt that a PR dept could really control the spin well enough to keep the fans (and monday quarterbacks) happy, as was suggested previously...
(Yes, I'm aware that the callers may only represent a small portion of actual raven fans, but man, they were fired up!)
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Yes the USA does take it's anthem and flag very seriously and I am sure people are paying attention re future political protests..........anything but the flag and anthem ! But many people seemed okay about the fact that he didn't vote and his criticism of the police force. Even the police shooting of a white Australian woman seems to have got a lot of air time and it was a royal stuff up by the cop involved. So many Americans would be sympathetic about the social issues in the USA but then you have the flag and don't even mention the Castro T shirt or the pig socks ! And now with his girlfriend putting her opinions out there.........................maybe Kaep should apply for Cutler's vacant job at Fox but I wonder what the Fox owners think of him ? I still tend to think that Baltimore might be one of the better places for him support wise which is not exactly a bonus ! Let's say it's ahead of Miami !
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Yes the USA does take it's anthem and flag very seriously and I am sure people are paying attention re future political protests..........anything but the flag and anthem ! But many people seemed okay about the fact that he didn't vote and his criticism of the police force. Even the police shooting of a white Australian woman seems to have got a lot of air time and it was a royal stuff up by the cop involved. So many Americans would be sympathetic about the social issues in the USA but then you have the flag and don't even mention the Castro T shirt or the pig socks ! And now with his girlfriend putting her opinions out there.........................maybe Kaep should apply for Cutler's vacant job at Fox but I wonder what the Fox owners think of him ? I still tend to think that Baltimore might be one of the better places for him support wise which is not exactly a bonus ! Let's say it's ahead of Miami !
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Unfortunately the Raven fans who called into the radio station to express their displeasure with the thought of signing Kaep might represent the vocal minority. Not from that area though so i don't know.
What do you think eventually is going to happen with Kap this year? I was quite surprised that the Dolphins would sign Cutler, who I thought was signed, sealed & delivered with FOX. I get the connection with Gase and all, but he was 1-4 last year with a 78 QB rating before his shoulder injury, and I think Chicago was glad to show him the highway. IMO, I think his durability & mental toughness is very questionable.
You've got to wonder how long this is going to go on with Kap. I predict QBs are going to start dropping like flies in the preseason and there isn’t much left out there (maybe coax Romo out of retirement? Lol). I'm not sold on Kap as a starter in this league, but certainly a capable backup considering the likes of Mark Sanchez still hanging around in this league...please.
You've got to wonder how long this is going to go on with Kap. I predict QBs are going to start dropping like flies in the preseason and there isn’t much left out there (maybe coax Romo out of retirement? Lol). I'm not sold on Kap as a starter in this league, but certainly a capable backup considering the likes of Mark Sanchez still hanging around in this league...please.
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I think at this point no one will sign him, period. I think he's viewed as being radioactive, and teams have their starting QB's, and are willing to roll the dice with a lesser talented backup QB, than Kaepernick.
He says he wants to play football, but if you look at his Twitter account, it's all politics and social commentary still. All about "rights", police abuse, people oppressed in his eyes, etc. Tweet after tweet, day after day.
If he doesn't get signed by mid-season, I think he will start looking into politics. Or should. I imagine there are a lot of fringe radio programs, and some TV shows that would love to have him on there for ratings. Let him go on about how oppressive the country is to minorities, how bad the police are, and how great Castro was, etc. I think he sold his mansion in the bay area to move to NYC. Maybe he can find a district there and run for office.
He says he wants to play football, but if you look at his Twitter account, it's all politics and social commentary still. All about "rights", police abuse, people oppressed in his eyes, etc. Tweet after tweet, day after day.
If he doesn't get signed by mid-season, I think he will start looking into politics. Or should. I imagine there are a lot of fringe radio programs, and some TV shows that would love to have him on there for ratings. Let him go on about how oppressive the country is to minorities, how bad the police are, and how great Castro was, etc. I think he sold his mansion in the bay area to move to NYC. Maybe he can find a district there and run for office.
Who will improve and who will decline ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AojqVsM61sU
I think the Jets decline is a no brainer and I think the Falcons could. I'm in two minds about Seattle. The improvers ? I will pick the Bucs and maybe the Eagles. Browns and 49ers to show some improvement. Getting off the bottom but not threatening the playoffs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AojqVsM61sU
I think the Jets decline is a no brainer and I think the Falcons could. I'm in two minds about Seattle. The improvers ? I will pick the Bucs and maybe the Eagles. Browns and 49ers to show some improvement. Getting off the bottom but not threatening the playoffs.
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A common comment among millennials these days is "nobody in our age group watches ESPN anymore. They used to have good programs that we all watched, but now they suck". I actually agree. If ESPN is aware of that impression and wants to change it, expect some controversial or profoundly odd material from them. Or they could do what they should do and start producing good material, but I do not think they have the horsepower to accomplish that.
Well, ESPN put together the list of teams they expect to decline and improve, so right off the bat I'm very skeptical how accurate those lists will be (OFC only time will tell), and skeptical whether or not ESPN INTENDED to be as accurate as possible but instead are just putting something out to stir up controversy and sell news. Their list of teams expected to decline, in order: Raiders, Texans, Dolphins, Giants, Cowboys. They have to be fools to put they Raiders on that list, so I stopped watching the video after that. But I can actually see a case for the other 4 teams to be expected to decline. Giants I'm on the bubble with actually. Texans cant get too much worse than their record of 9-7 last year but who's their QB? Dolphins on that list reflects the QB situation, otherwise the Fins are not too bad. But because of the QB situation, I can SEE them on the list, but think Cutler will do better than some expect. Cowboys have lost talent on defense and offensive line, teams will have Dak figured out and will make more trouble for him this year, so Dak could hit a sophomore slump, and so I can see them on that list. But the Raiders on that list is a huge gaffe, even if they were 12-4 last season and therefore have much less to improve on. Honestly, THAT's the primary reason they are on their decliners list IMO.movingtarget said:
A common comment among millennials these days is "nobody in our age group watches ESPN anymore. They used to have good programs that we all watched, but now they suck". I actually agree. If ESPN is aware of that impression and wants to change it, expect some controversial or profoundly odd material from them. Or they could do what they should do and start producing good material, but I do not think they have the horsepower to accomplish that.
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I think record wise, the Raiders could drop from 12-4, but does anyone see them dropping to less than 10-6, in a division where Denver appears on the decline, and most pundits see KC slipping a little too?
I think the Cowboys are in for a little decline overall, and agree with you on Dak. But he's pretty dynamic, and they are still talented. They look like a 10-6 team. Will the Giants finish 10-6 or better? Maybe.
I think Philly is iffy, just like last season, same with Jax, though Coughlin, and a year under some of these guys belts on defense, may give some stability and wins. Cleveland looks like a 6-10 team, maybe. Still, that's five more wins than last year. Recall last year they were actually in several of the games they lost, and could have gone 5-11 then with a few bounces. SF still looks like a 3-13 team. They need at least this entire season to improve at all. It won't be quick.
Well, at least Herm Edwards had the right reaction. Miami and NYJ will drop, for the reasons they said. Four easy wins for the Patriots in that division (plus the other 2 easy wins against Buffalo).on3m@n@rmy said:
I think record wise, the Raiders could drop from 12-4, but does anyone see them dropping to less than 10-6, in a division where Denver appears on the decline, and most pundits see KC slipping a little too?
I think the Cowboys are in for a little decline overall, and agree with you on Dak. But he's pretty dynamic, and they are still talented. They look like a 10-6 team. Will the Giants finish 10-6 or better? Maybe.
I think Philly is iffy, just like last season, same with Jax, though Coughlin, and a year under some of these guys belts on defense, may give some stability and wins. Cleveland looks like a 6-10 team, maybe. Still, that's five more wins than last year. Recall last year they were actually in several of the games they lost, and could have gone 5-11 then with a few bounces. SF still looks like a 3-13 team. They need at least this entire season to improve at all. It won't be quick.
Yes, but it's not as much they used to produce good things, as they have become stale. That's because they are re-producing the same studio content over and over, which is easiest, and cheapest to do. Just bring in some ex-jocks in the studio, and have them gab about a topic the producer tosses at them, while adding some graphics. Very Y2K broadcasting. Compare this to the snapchat/instagram/twitter world we live in, where Facebook is for middle aged people. No wonder the millenneals think ESPN sucks.
Its always a safe bet to say that a 12+ win from last year could decline. Will (can) the Browns decline?
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Here's another way to look at that.
On paper at least, the Patriots appear to be a better team this year, than they were last. Plus last year they were missing Brady for 4 games, then Gronk got hurt. No problem, they went 14-2 anyway. USA Today was bold enough to say this was quite possibly the best Belicheck/Brady team yet, and predicted they would go 16-0.
Still, not enough to get mentioned on such a show, right?
On paper at least, the Patriots appear to be a better team this year, than they were last. Plus last year they were missing Brady for 4 games, then Gronk got hurt. No problem, they went 14-2 anyway. USA Today was bold enough to say this was quite possibly the best Belicheck/Brady team yet, and predicted they would go 16-0.
Still, not enough to get mentioned on such a show, right?
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HaHaaaaaa. Ya know, the first time I watched the video I was so ticked with the Raiders being put on the decline list that I killed it before Herm's comments. I had to re-watch it to see what he said.
Herm:
Also agree with Herm that players who fight (fisticuffs, not the shoving variety) in practice should be tossed from the practice field. Just that happened to Seattle's DL Frank Clark, who punched LT Germain Ifedi in the face, putting Ifedi on the ground. This happened several days ago and Germain has not returned to practice since then. Ifedi has a reputation for dirtiness in practice, and so afterward I noticed Frank in a knee brace. Not sure if Ifedi went for Frank's knees or not, but that would be motive for a response like Frank's. Shouldn't do it, but things get hot at times. Still, tossing from practice is appropriate.
Regarding health, some players are commenting on the new version of the Vicis Pro helmet saying:
- last year's model was so uncomfortable in the forehead area that it could not be worn for a game
- this year's model has corrected the comfort issues and some guys will be using them in preseason (Richard Sherman is one)
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HaHaaaaaa. Ya know, the first time I watched the video I was so ticked with the Raiders being put on the decline list that I killed it before Herm's comments. I had to re-watch it to see what he said.
Herm:
White dude with blond hair:
Also agree with Herm that players who fight (fisticuffs, not the shoving variety) in practice should be tossed from the practice field. Just that happened to Seattle's DL Frank Clark, who punched LT Germain Ifedi in the face, putting Ifedi on the ground. This happened several days ago and Germain has not returned to practice since then. Ifedi has a reputation for dirtiness in practice, and so afterward I noticed Frank in a knee brace. Not sure if Ifedi went for Frank's knees or not, but that would be motive for a response like Frank's. Shouldn't do it, but things get hot at times. Still, tossing from practice is appropriate.
Regarding health, some players are commenting on the new version of the Vicis Pro helmet saying:
- last year's model was so uncomfortable in the forehead area that it could not be worn for a game
- this year's model has corrected the comfort issues and some guys will be using them in preseason (Richard Sherman is one)
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PLUS, the Patriots have added WR Brandin Cooks, who is killing it in practice from what I heard. Cooks is prolly the fastest man in the NFL right now. Also hear he took less money to play for the Pats. What a novel concept. And probably with less touches as Brady spreads the ball around. Unselfish.
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Alpe d'Huez said:
PLUS, the Patriots have added WR Brandin Cooks, who is killing it in practice from what I heard. Cooks is prolly the fastest man in the NFL right now. Also hear he took less money to play for the Pats. What a novel concept. And probably with less touches as Brady spreads the ball around. Unselfish.
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ESPN had a clean out recently. Quite a few staff gone even long timers. Must be a reduction in viewership and revenue.
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ESPN had a clean out recently. Quite a few staff gone even long timers. Must be a reduction in viewership and revenue.
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QB shuffle going around in camp. For example, in Cleveland Cody Kessler was the projected starter, then DeShone Kizer played very well with the first team making it appear he could be ready from week 1, but he then struggled, and in recent days Hugh Jackson said the job is Brock Osweiller's to lose. He apparently just has the veteran experience and leadership skills, and is throwing the ball well enough and adapting quick enough.
In Denver it looks like again Paxton Lynch is being outplayed by Trevor Simeon, which has to be a bit of a disappointment to Bronco brass. Lynch will start game 2 of the preseason, and more will be known then.
With the Fins overpaying Jay Cutler ($10m, not as badly as the Bears overpaid him), and Adam Gase saying they didn't pay Cutler to stand on the sidelines, does this mean Matt Moore, who has been a pretty serviceable backup his career, even played well when started, doesn't have a chance at the starting job, considering Tannehill will be out for several weeks, maybe the season?
Reports are that Tom Savage is clearly outplaying Deshaun Watson in Houston and already penciled in as the starter. I'm one of the people who believes Watson was drafted too high, and expectations are too high for him, though I don't think he'll completely bust. So far, this doesn't surprise me, but it says something, because not many people in the league hear Tom Savage name and think of him as a starter. That's the one reason I said "penciled in" above. The pressure to start and play Watson, both to fill seats, and roll the dice, may cause coaches to start him anyway if the competition for the job is at all close.
That's really good news. This is a long process, so every step is important. I've said before reducing long term brain injuries in football isn't just about changing rules on hits. It's an issue with evaluating health, and technology. I'm curious to hear what players using the Vicis have to say by the end of the season.on3m@n@rmy said:
QB shuffle going around in camp. For example, in Cleveland Cody Kessler was the projected starter, then DeShone Kizer played very well with the first team making it appear he could be ready from week 1, but he then struggled, and in recent days Hugh Jackson said the job is Brock Osweiller's to lose. He apparently just has the veteran experience and leadership skills, and is throwing the ball well enough and adapting quick enough.
In Denver it looks like again Paxton Lynch is being outplayed by Trevor Simeon, which has to be a bit of a disappointment to Bronco brass. Lynch will start game 2 of the preseason, and more will be known then.
With the Fins overpaying Jay Cutler ($10m, not as badly as the Bears overpaid him), and Adam Gase saying they didn't pay Cutler to stand on the sidelines, does this mean Matt Moore, who has been a pretty serviceable backup his career, even played well when started, doesn't have a chance at the starting job, considering Tannehill will be out for several weeks, maybe the season?
Reports are that Tom Savage is clearly outplaying Deshaun Watson in Houston and already penciled in as the starter. I'm one of the people who believes Watson was drafted too high, and expectations are too high for him, though I don't think he'll completely bust. So far, this doesn't surprise me, but it says something, because not many people in the league hear Tom Savage name and think of him as a starter. That's the one reason I said "penciled in" above. The pressure to start and play Watson, both to fill seats, and roll the dice, may cause coaches to start him anyway if the competition for the job is at all close.
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Going to be interesting with the draft QBs. Everyone seemed to have a different opinion about who was the best and most pundits didn't think it was a good year for QBs. Also going to be an interesting year for Goff especially if he doesn't show much improvement. The Browns obviously won't cut Osweiler now. I thought Prescott and Carson Wentz were the best of last season's rookie QBs.
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Going to be interesting with the draft QBs. Everyone seemed to have a different opinion about who was the best and most pundits didn't think it was a good year for QBs. Also going to be an interesting year for Goff especially if he doesn't show much improvement. The Browns obviously won't cut Osweiler now. I thought Prescott and Carson Wentz were the best of last season's rookie QBs.
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http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/espn-layoffs-fired-list-1202399712/
The above link includes a full list of names laid off. Here is the list of the employees who covered the NFL:
- NFL analyst Trent Dilfer
- NFL analyst Ashley Fox
- NFL reporter Ed Werder
However, that is not the complete list. Here are a few other names who were either laid off or left on their own accord:
- NFL analyst John Clayton. John still works his Seattle-based show mostly covering sporting news in the Seattle area (Seahawks, Mariners, & other miscellaneous stuff).
- NFL analyst Mark Schlereth. He was the most recent employee let go, who has since been picked up by FOX.
- General analyst Doug Gotlieb. Also picked up by FOX.
- Probably the most important name: COLIN COWHERD, who I believe was let go over some politically incorrect statement he made that I do not even recall what it was. He was almost immediately picked up by FOX, who allowed him to continue operating his former ESPN show "The Herd" under a similar format. The new show is "The Herd - with Colin Cowherd". I say he was an important loss to ESPN because his show was well watched and had good ratings. Since joining FOX, ratings for his show continued or improved slightly. Some say he continues to outperform competitor shows of NBC and ESPN (http://www.inquisitr.com/2566874/co...n-lebatard-dan-patrick-in-ratings-department/). That last link was from November. Since then, The Herd has not lost any steam. If anything it has gained steam.
Colin's "The Herd" show on FOX Sports1 is important not just because of ratings. The show is doing so well that FOX is using his show to host guests of other analysts who have joined the FOX team after leaving ESPN. Some examples I saw in the past week:
- Doug Gotlieb (today)
- Mark Schlereth (last week, who talked about the logic of the Fins signing of Cutler)
Anyway, enough of that boring name dropping. FWIW, right?
I do like Cowherd though because he says things nobody else does or will, and he gives it thought. Most of it is his own opinion, some I agree with, some not. And he usually has good guests who are knowledgeable. He treats them professionally and lets them make their points. Some recent examples of potentially controversial guests:
- Richie Incognito. Got his 2nd chance with the Bills after bullygate. Colin treated him like a valued guest. Richie had some really good points on how college football is ruining offensive line play in the NFL - something I posted about upthread.
- Lavar Ball. Now that was a tough interview where co-host Kristine Leahy was being dehumanized on set by Lavar, who acted like a child. Colin handled that so well, but at the same time did not disrespect Lavar or his Baller Brand. IMO, Lavar should have been tossed offset, but that's not how to get controversial guests to come on set in the first place.
The initial round was announced around April 26. 100 or so employees affected. In March, ESPN made this statement regarding the layoffs, but revenue had to be the primary reason, which they would not likely admit:movingtarget said:
Translation = we suck. Upthread Alpe i believe mentioned lack of adaptability.
http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/espn-layoffs-fired-list-1202399712/
The above link includes a full list of names laid off. Here is the list of the employees who covered the NFL:
- NFL analyst Trent Dilfer
- NFL analyst Ashley Fox
- NFL reporter Ed Werder
However, that is not the complete list. Here are a few other names who were either laid off or left on their own accord:
- NFL analyst John Clayton. John still works his Seattle-based show mostly covering sporting news in the Seattle area (Seahawks, Mariners, & other miscellaneous stuff).
- NFL analyst Mark Schlereth. He was the most recent employee let go, who has since been picked up by FOX.
- General analyst Doug Gotlieb. Also picked up by FOX.
- Probably the most important name: COLIN COWHERD, who I believe was let go over some politically incorrect statement he made that I do not even recall what it was. He was almost immediately picked up by FOX, who allowed him to continue operating his former ESPN show "The Herd" under a similar format. The new show is "The Herd - with Colin Cowherd". I say he was an important loss to ESPN because his show was well watched and had good ratings. Since joining FOX, ratings for his show continued or improved slightly. Some say he continues to outperform competitor shows of NBC and ESPN (http://www.inquisitr.com/2566874/co...n-lebatard-dan-patrick-in-ratings-department/). That last link was from November. Since then, The Herd has not lost any steam. If anything it has gained steam.
Colin's "The Herd" show on FOX Sports1 is important not just because of ratings. The show is doing so well that FOX is using his show to host guests of other analysts who have joined the FOX team after leaving ESPN. Some examples I saw in the past week:
- Doug Gotlieb (today)
- Mark Schlereth (last week, who talked about the logic of the Fins signing of Cutler)
Anyway, enough of that boring name dropping. FWIW, right?
I do like Cowherd though because he says things nobody else does or will, and he gives it thought. Most of it is his own opinion, some I agree with, some not. And he usually has good guests who are knowledgeable. He treats them professionally and lets them make their points. Some recent examples of potentially controversial guests:
- Richie Incognito. Got his 2nd chance with the Bills after bullygate. Colin treated him like a valued guest. Richie had some really good points on how college football is ruining offensive line play in the NFL - something I posted about upthread.
- Lavar Ball. Now that was a tough interview where co-host Kristine Leahy was being dehumanized on set by Lavar, who acted like a child. Colin handled that so well, but at the same time did not disrespect Lavar or his Baller Brand. IMO, Lavar should have been tossed offset, but that's not how to get controversial guests to come on set in the first place.
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Now maybe USC's QB Sam Darnold could jump in and start when he comes out, but we'll see. Poor guy. If he continues playing they way he has at SC, he will be destined to be drafted by the team with the worst record in the NFL. Kind of like Luck.
This year's crop of rookie QBs need to sit as the backup, study, watch, and learn from the veterans. Same with sophomore Paxton Lynch. Exception might be KC's rookie Patrick Mahomes (and OFC soph. Dak Prescott), but Mahomes won't take the job from Alex Smith this year. And if Trubisky starts in Chicago he will get murdered. Nothing's wrong with being the backup for 3-4 years (Rogers, Hasselbeck, etc). But it almost as if patience in the NFL is a vanishing trait of teams and owners.movingtarget said:
Now maybe USC's QB Sam Darnold could jump in and start when he comes out, but we'll see. Poor guy. If he continues playing they way he has at SC, he will be destined to be drafted by the team with the worst record in the NFL. Kind of like Luck.
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Yeah I don't mid Cowherd, not as irritating as Stephen Smith and Jason Whitlock or even Shannon and Skip. I like Herm's guest commentary when he appears on different shows because it's short and sweet and the guy is knowledgeable and honest with his opinions.
on3m@n@rmy said:
Yeah I don't mid Cowherd, not as irritating as Stephen Smith and Jason Whitlock or even Shannon and Skip. I like Herm's guest commentary when he appears on different shows because it's short and sweet and the guy is knowledgeable and honest with his opinions.
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Maybe Kaep's last chance where some of the really average QBs are having less than average seasons with even worse back ups ? Or even if one of them gets injured. It's a numbers game for Kaep now. The more he is overlooked when average players go down and get replaced by the same type of player, it's another strike against Kaep. Either he's done, already in the minds of team owners or someone will get desperate at some stage and forget the situation and just sign him. Impossible to know who that would be though at this stage but if he sits out the season, he's done it seems. Even Ponder was signed last season as a third string at the 49ers and he has not started a comp game for years, now been cut of course.
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Maybe Kaep's last chance where some of the really average QBs are having less than average seasons with even worse back ups ? Or even if one of them gets injured. It's a numbers game for Kaep now. The more he is overlooked when average players go down and get replaced by the same type of player, it's another strike against Kaep. Either he's done, already in the minds of team owners or someone will get desperate at some stage and forget the situation and just sign him. Impossible to know who that would be though at this stage but if he sits out the season, he's done it seems. Even Ponder was signed last season as a third string at the 49ers and he has not started a comp game for years, now been cut of course.
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