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[Nomad]

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Not sure about Kaepernick but in case you have not heard the Broncos are signing Osweiller to the league minimum contract. Browns will pay the rest. Paxton Lynch will be out for 5 weeks with injury so I suspect Brock gets released when Paxton comes back I guess

BO gets $15.3 Mil from Cle and $750 K from Den not matter what. If TS goes down, and BO plays well, he might get the job that was offered to him in '15.

Pathetic!

When Manning came back from injury in 2015 and resumed his starting spot just in time for the playoffs, Osweiller was not happy believing he should have remained the starter going into the playoffs. After the SB, he was offered a sweet deal on a new contract and rejected it, basically telling Elway to stick it and taking Houston's offer, which wasn't that much more than what the Broncos were offering. So, he couldn't cut it at either Houston or Cleveland and now ends up back in Denver, at least for the time being. And the most egregious part is he's guaranteed that huge dough from Cleveland no matter what! He could walk way from the game tomorrow and never have to work another day in his life. Free millions of $$$ for basically doing nothing but sign guaranteed contracts...ridiculous! (no wonder the average Joe can't afford to see any games these days!).

It's bad enough watching career journeymen like Sanchez make millions for holding a clipboard, 10th OA picks get paid millions to sit the bench behind also-rans as well as the number of substance/PED/DV abusers getting off lightly, but the Osweiler situation takes the cake for me.

Losing interest in the NFL real fast...you guys can have it!

 

[jmdirt]

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Not sure about Kaepernick but in case you have not heard the Broncos are signing Osweiller to the league minimum contract. Browns will pay the rest. Paxton Lynch will be out for 5 weeks with injury so I suspect Brock gets released when Paxton comes back I guess

BO gets $15.3 Mil from Cle and $750 K from Den not matter what. If TS goes down, and BO plays well, he might get the job that was offered to him in '15.

Pathetic!

When Manning came back from injury in 2015 and resumed his starting spot just in time for the playoffs, Osweiller was not happy believing he should have remained the starter going into the playoffs. After the SB, he was offered a sweet deal on a new contract and rejected it, basically telling Elway to stick it and taking Houston's offer, which wasn't that much more than what the Broncos were offering. So, he couldn't cut it at either Houston or Cleveland and now ends up back in Denver, at least for the time being. And the most egregious part is he's guaranteed that huge dough from Cleveland no matter what! He could walk way from the game tomorrow and never have to work another day in his life. Free millions of $$$ for basically doing nothing but sign guaranteed contracts...ridiculous! (no wonder the average Joe can't afford to see any games these days!).

It's bad enough watching career journeymen like Sanchez make millions for holding a clipboard, 10th OA picks get paid millions to sit the bench behind also-rans as well as the number of substance/PED/DV abusers getting off lightly, but the Osweiler situation takes the cake for me.

Losing interest in the NFL real fast...you guys can have it!

BO making million$ is worse than what Ray Rice did?

 

[movingtarget]

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Not sure about Kaepernick but in case you have not heard the Broncos are signing Osweiller to the league minimum contract. Browns will pay the rest. Paxton Lynch will be out for 5 weeks with injury so I suspect Brock gets released when Paxton comes back I guess

BO gets $15.3 Mil from Cle and $750 K from Den not matter what. If TS goes down, and BO plays well, he might get the job that was offered to him in '15.

Pathetic!

When Manning came back from injury in 2015 and resumed his starting spot just in time for the playoffs, Osweiller was not happy believing he should have remained the starter going into the playoffs. After the SB, he was offered a sweet deal on a new contract and rejected it, basically telling Elway to stick it and taking Houston's offer, which wasn't that much more than what the Broncos were offering. So, he couldn't cut it at either Houston or Cleveland and now ends up back in Denver, at least for the time being. And the most egregious part is he's guaranteed that huge dough from Cleveland no matter what! He could walk way from the game tomorrow and never have to work another day in his life. Free millions of $$$ for basically doing nothing but sign guaranteed contracts...ridiculous! (no wonder the average Joe can't afford to see any games these days!).

It's bad enough watching career journeymen like Sanchez make millions for holding a clipboard, 10th OA picks get paid millions to sit the bench behind also-rans as well as the number of substance/PED/DV abusers getting off lightly, but the Osweiler situation takes the cake for me.

Losing interest in the NFL real fast...you guys can have it!

There's every chance he will get cut again. One year contract after all.

 

[blutto]

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Not sure about Kaepernick but in case you have not heard the Broncos are signing Osweiller to the league minimum contract. Browns will pay the rest. Paxton Lynch will be out for 5 weeks with injury so I suspect Brock gets released when Paxton comes back I guess

BO gets $15.3 Mil from Cle and $750 K from Den not matter what. If TS goes down, and BO plays well, he might get the job that was offered to him in '15.

Pathetic!

When Manning came back from injury in 2015 and resumed his starting spot just in time for the playoffs, Osweiller was not happy believing he should have remained the starter going into the playoffs. After the SB, he was offered a sweet deal on a new contract and rejected it, basically telling Elway to stick it and taking Houston's offer, which wasn't that much more than what the Broncos were offering. So, he couldn't cut it at either Houston or Cleveland and now ends up back in Denver, at least for the time being. And the most egregious part is he's guaranteed that huge dough from Cleveland no matter what! He could walk way from the game tomorrow and never have to work another day in his life. Free millions of $$$ for basically doing nothing but sign guaranteed contracts...ridiculous! (no wonder the average Joe can't afford to see any games these days!).

It's bad enough watching career journeymen like Sanchez make millions for holding a clipboard, 10th OA picks get paid millions to sit the bench behind also-rans as well as the number of substance/PED/DV abusers getting off lightly, but the Osweiler situation takes the cake for me.

Losing interest in the NFL real fast...you guys can have it!

BO making million$ is worse than what Ray Rice did?

....more maybe it could be worse piled on top of worse....

Cheers

 

[blutto]

....yeah this ain't the NFL but it is football....and will likely put a smile on your face....

By point-spread standards, Howard pulled off perhaps the biggest upset in modern college football history Saturday night.

The Bison, an FCS team from the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference, entered as 45-point road underdogs against UNLV and stunned the Rebels 43-40 in Las Vegas. UNLV paid Howard $600,000 for the appearance.

Las Vegas sportsbooks were not offering a money line on the game, but the Bison could be found as 600-1 long shots and even higher at some offshore books

Since 2005, there have been 254 games featuring point spreads of 40 or greater, according to sports betting database BetLabSports.com. Before Saturday, 40-plus-point favorites were 253-0 straight-up.

Howard was not the only massive FCS underdog to pull off a stunner Saturday. Liberty, a 33-point road underdog, outlasted Baylor 48-43

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Cheers

 

[blutto]

....the thickened plot so far....

CLEVELAND -- Members of unions representing Cleveland police officers and paramedics have said they won't hold a large U.S. flag during pregame ceremonies before next Sunday's Browns season opener after a group of the team's players knelt during the national anthem before a preseason game last month.

Steve Loomis, president of the Cleveland Police Patrolmen's Association, cited his service in the U.S. Navy when he told WKYC-TV he was astounded that Browns management knew of the protests but allowed it to occur.


"I am not going to participate or work with management that allows their players to disrespect the flag and the national anthem," Loomis said.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/20562272/unions-refuse-hold-flag-cleveland-browns-opener

Cheers

 

[blutto]

No one was quite sure what Saturday would look like, as nearly 1,200 players went from NFL rosters to the open market, so much so that Denver Broncos president of football operations/general manager John Elway said he believed most teams, the Broncos included, would try to get a head start.

Elway said in recent days that the Broncos had evaluators looking at players they believed other teams might release "because you’re not going to be able to look at everybody if you wait." This year, teams cut their rosters from 90 players to 53, without a cut to 75 players ahead of the final week of the preseason, as had happened in previous years.

As a result, the list was bigger than ever: almost 40 pages of names on the league’s transaction report for personnel executives to sift through, sort and decide if any of those players are better than the ones they kept. Here’s one swing at a starting lineup of available players after discussions with a few personnel executives around the league Saturday night to go with an assist from ESPN’s NFL Nation team reporters:

....btw the lead-in to this article was....

Building a team from the 1,000+ players released on cut-down day

http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/246894/offensive-line-veterans-former-pro-bowlers-ward-lee-highlight-all-available-team

Cheers

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...hiefs-gm-mahomes-not-even-close-to-alex-smith
but,
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...oundup-mahomes-days-as-backup-may-be-numbered

 

[movingtarget]

Patriots swap Jacoby Brissett for Colts WR Phillip Dorsett

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_8mZxf7C8Q

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

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Patriots swap Jacoby Brissett for Colts WR Phillip Dorsett

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_8mZxf7C8Q

If stone could talk it would look and sound like Bill, who doesn't appear to like pressers. But Bill keeps doing what he needs to do because he can. Smart roster-builder with depth, which helps to make these kinds of moves happen.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

New life for Osweiller moving forward.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ver-one-of-the-top-five-days-of-his-life/amp/
Comments about his decision to leave Denver:

At the end of the day, I tried making the best business decision for myself and my family. Whether I made the best one or not, that could be argued. But the fact of the matter is it was made. I’m not going to live in the past.

Sounds mentally ready to cut steel. We'll see in 5 weeks how secure Paxton's QB-2 job is.

 

[movingtarget]

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Patriots swap Jacoby Brissett for Colts WR Phillip Dorsett

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_8mZxf7C8Q

If stone could talk it would look and sound like Bill, who doesn't appear to like pressers. But Bill keeps doing what he needs to do because he can. Smart roster-builder with depth, which helps to make these kinds of moves happen.

Bill would make a fantastic undertaker.

 

[movingtarget]

Tom Brady's brain

http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=pMJKdIFVI6pghfX2HXfSzxRpdoyDWYNWFGYNwyo+qOK9hDAFtlTFfDF5CBQwx4chkoYO6J2l4lTKUwFTiiq3aSMxMhFbycBbzFYg85hTQdiqbGkflTxajSh+6YpVRsJcdDs4dp+tV4JvsDcnptFqXA==&campaign_id=129&instance_id=102724&segment_id=112830&user_id=12d98412e3bcc0522f6cfbf4c21c54e6&regi_id=42685115

 

[The Hitch]

Good read.

Pretty much my thoughts. Brady is taking major risks.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

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Tom Brady's brain

http://p.nytimes.com/email/re?location=pMJKdIFVI6pghfX2HXfSzxRpdoyDWYNWFGYNwyo+qOK9hDAFtlTFfDF5CBQwx4chkoYO6J2l4lTKUwFTiiq3aSMxMhFbycBbzFYg85hTQdiqbGkflTxajSh+6YpVRsJcdDs4dp+tV4JvsDcnptFqXA==&campaign_id=129&instance_id=102724&segment_id=112830&user_id=12d98412e3bcc0522f6cfbf4c21c54e6&regi_id=42685115

Yes interesting read but I have some concerns with either the reporting or the whole concussion protocol thing.

As to reporting, biases have been affecting reporting for the last few decades and it has gotten so bad now that statistics are showing that the general public does not believe media reporting nearly as much as 20 years ago. So this article's title is "Can We Talk About Tom Brady’s Brain". Okay so I'm thinking here comes a medical discussion. But there is not one shred of physical evidence in the article that has anything to do with Brady's brain. The discussion is based entirely on the claim that Brady's supermodel wife says that Tom has had concussions every year. Yet Tom said he did not have any concussions in 2016, the NFL (and others) looked at every snap on tape and concluded he was not concussed last season because every hit or every time he was taken down he got up immediately. Yet tape may not reveal all concussions and Tom is probably in protection mode. I'm just presenting the possibility that there could be some reporting bias going on here.

But wait! Brady's supermodel wife said blank blank blank. This points to the second problem, which is really 2 problems: 1) since when are wives part of the concussion protocol and 2) maybe concussion Protocols are really so bad wives have to speak up.

 

[Tonton]

Go Chiefs!!!

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

Interesting read about Kaepernick:
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/...protests.html?referer=https://t.co/73oe2pMaPD

 

[movingtarget]

Interesting read about Kaepernick:
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/...protests.html?referer=https://t.co/73oe2pMaPD

Yeah a good read.

 

[jmdirt]

Interesting and entertaining game.

Who was it that said Smith wasn't good, and should be replaced by the rookie? :lol:

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

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Interesting and entertaining game.

Who was it that said Smith wasn't good, and should be replaced by the rookie? :lol:

Yeah. And TonTon got his wish.

Smith: 28/35 completions/attempt, 368 yards, ~148 rating. Not good enough to be appreciated by D2 volleyballers maybe.

Looks like Pats defense is not very deep in spots. Hightower goes down so they replace him with backup Cassius Marsh, who was acquired 7 days ago in a trade with Seattle. In Seattle he was a hand in the dirt DE, and used as edge rusher. NE used him as a standup DE/OLB who was expected to pass cover RBs downfield. Marsh has a good motor that suits the edge rusher role. But to use him in pass coverage downfield is a huge mismatch (and negligent by NE) that favored KC. And NE has no option other than Marsh? I was shocked. Especially as Marsh joined NE in the past week.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Wasn't me either. Huge game from Smith. Nice to see him throw the ball down the field with as good of accuracy as we've perhaps ever seen from him. When Smith was drafted #1 in the 2005 draft (some 24 picks before Aaron Rodgers) this was the QB I think a lot of people were hoping to see. Smith has had big games in the past, but I can't recall one where he played so solid, at times when behind, and threw such nice deep passes.

Recall several posts ago I questioned the Pats even going 14-2 this year because of DL concerns, and I think that was really exposed here. But again the real credit goes to KC. They looked terrific on both sides of the ball.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

We know who. By the way New England fans should not panic because Patriots under Belichick win over 80% of their games in December.

Hmmm. This was just reported on Colin Cowherd this morning that the Chiefs prefer to keep Patrick Mahomes on the bench under Alex Smith for TWO seasons, not 1 season.

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

If anyone thinks after last night's game that Tom Brady is losing it they need to listen to this (u gotta love this, "dude backs up Tom Brady" by Aerosmith):
https://youtu.be/XAWYYR2Dwzo

 

[Tonton]

Go Chiefs!!!

Yeah, I like to quote meself .

I saw it coming, week 1 is always a trap, and most observers dismiss the Chiefs...not sexy enough, like the Raiders that the Chiefs beat twice last year, the big market teams who get the hype...to complete Alpe d'Huez's post, Alex Smith had five different offensive coordinators his first five year, never developed, but he;s for real.

The Chiefs made the playoffs, beat Houston 30-0 on the road and never overcame an early defficit it NE. Two years ago. Last year, a referee call nullified the two-point conversion, tying the Steelers with the Chiefs riding a momentum wave. The Chiefs are a top team.

Big win. And still, it's all about the Pats in the media. KC gets very little to no credit.

(sight)...

 

[movingtarget]

Nice performance by the Kansas RB Kareem Hunt in his first NFL game. Smith looked good. Sloppy performance by the Patriots.