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The Bills vs Pats game will be good too. The Bills may have had the benefit of an 'easy' schedule, but they've took advantage of it and also beat good (if not inconsistent) teams like the Cowboys and Steelers. Being in New England, you have to give the Pats the edge, but I think much of the country will be happy to see the Bills beating the Pats and setting up a crucial week 17 game against the Jets. Now even if the Pats haven't looked as good as they have in previous years, and Brady has been mediocre for much of the season, it's hard for me to see how they'll stumble and lose their final two games (both at home) and lose the division. I'll be happy for the Bills if they can snatch the division on the final day.
Again, not sure why Pats would have the tiebreaker here. But I can understand it because I do think Pats had a mildly harder schedule (a game against the Chiefs instead of Broncos, Texans instead of Titans is pretty much the same).

Don't get why GB have a tiebreaker over the Vikings though. Making Sundays game worth little other than a seeding battle for GB as well.

But with the Bills and Pats, its more the case of if Pats lose, then Chiefs have a window into the 2nd seed.
It makes the Chiefs game at Chicago mean something (which is on prime time).

I think its very possible Chiefs could stumble (at CHI, vs LAC). But there would at least be the chance the Patriots would have to play a wildcard game for the first time in 10 years.


The Rams vs Niners will be fascinating as well. The Rams, apart from the drubbing they received from the Cowboys, have played well the second half of the season, while the Niners are 3-3 after starting the season 8-0. Their defense hasn't been as impressive the last few weeks, and this being a divisional game with the Rams fighting for their playoff lives and the Niners for the division, the #1 seed and a first round bye, it'll be intense. The loss to the Seahawks really kind of exposed the Niners, and that crazy loss against the surging (it must be said) Falcons must have shaken up their confidence. That's a pick em' if you ask me.

The Rams loss to the Ravens was also in the second half of the season.

Theyve only really been impressive in the destruction of the Seahawks. I think 49ers should have this. i just hope its a game and not like 9ers Packers a few weeks ago
 
Again, not sure why Pats would have the tiebreaker here. But I can understand it because I do think Pats had a mildly harder schedule (a game against the Chiefs instead of Broncos, Texans instead of Titans is pretty much the same).

If the Patriots lose against the Bills and both teams end up being 12-4, they will be equal on the first 2 tiebreakers deciding the division winners (winning record and H2H), however they'll have the advantage in winning record against common opponents with Bills having lost agains the Eagles and the Browns.
 
If JG's "crime" is just weed, I take back everything from my previous post about him because IMO weed is not a 'problem' that he needs to overcome. Adults should be able to make their own decisions about how to deal with things...the NFL lets players booze all they want, pop pills all they want... May I present Brett Favre as the first poster child for that (not the actual first by any stretch though).

I hate the Saturday games on NFL network (used to be on ESPN) because I don't pay for cable! :(

Has anyone else noticed that our post count has been frozen for a while now? At Thanksgiving time I was near 3998, and now I'm near 3,998.. I only noticed because I was thinking 'wow 4,000 post...what a waste of time!' :)
Didn't another Seattle refugee - Percy Harvin, admit he smoked weed every game.

I think a lot of players do it and am really against suspensi
If the Patriots lose against the Bills and both teams end up being 12-4, they will be equal on the first 2 tiebreakers deciding the division winners (winning record and H2H), however they'll have the advantage in winning record against common opponents with Bills having lost against the Eagles and the Browns.
Well I would favour SOS here. OR even point differential once it gets to this kind of tie breaker. Or point differential in the H2H. common opponents seems kind of arbitrary.
But like I said I think the right team got the tbreaker here just about.
 
Pat had a good video on the suspension. I saw it a couple days ago but off the top of my head players are tested once usually before the season officially starts, if they pass they're good to go for the rest of the year. Unless they show reason to be tested again. Than once you get busted you're tested a whole lot more.

Watch "Pat McAfee's Thoughts on Josh Gordon's Suspension" on YouTube
View: https://youtu.be/nT_aRo5P0Qk
 
Thanks for sharing that video. Yes, that's how the rules are. Here is an article after Julian Edelman was suspended. There are several links in there to policy info:


And the NFLPA's thoughts on the issue:


What bothers me is that that's all the more they test for PEDs like steroids or HGH, but that's also the amount they test for weed. As if they accomplished one and the same. In case anyone isn't clear with what I am saying, steroids should be tested much more often, taken much more seriously, regardless if you have tested positive for anything or not, and weed shouldn't be tested for at all.

The 49ers may be 3-3 in their last three games, but all three losses were very close, to quality teams. Seattle in OT, the Ravens in a wet game, and Atlanta, who has grossly played below expectations this season.
 
Pat had a good video on the suspension. I saw it a couple days ago but off the top of my head players are tested once usually before the season officially starts, if they pass they're good to go for the rest of the year. Unless they show reason to be tested again. Than once you get busted you're tested a whole lot more.

Watch "Pat McAfee's Thoughts on Josh Gordon's Suspension" on YouTube
View: https://youtu.be/nT_aRo5P0Qk
I didn't watch it, but I listened to it on my drive to work earlier this week. Pat Mc's personal story is funny! Daryn Colledge (BSU star/NFL vet) explained it pretty much that way several years ago on local radio too. I wish we had more specifics from the NFL about JG, but there may be 20 things involved in that dynamic.
 
I didn't watch it, but I listened to it on my drive to work earlier this week. Pat Mc's personal story is funny! Daryn Colledge (BSU star/NFL vet) explained it pretty much that way several years ago on local radio too. I wish we had more specifics from the NFL about JG, but there may be 20 things involved in that dynamic.

All his stories are funny. I really wanted to see his magic trick and the touchdown now after he told them. Plus he brought light to the punt fiasco against the Patriots.
 
What bothers me is that that's all the more they test for PEDs like steroids or HGH, but that's also the amount they test for weed. As if they accomplished one and the same. In case anyone isn't clear with what I am saying, steroids should be tested much more often, taken much more seriously, regardless if you have tested positive for anything or not, and weed shouldn't be tested for at all.

I know, it's crazy it isn't tested as much. Cavendish used tennis as an example were cycling is tested way more yet other sports are citing they're leading the way in clean racing.
 
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Tennis is clinic paradise! Just to restate: why are they testing for mj? What is their justification?

I know, that might be why he referenced tennis. Than had S. Williams quote that tennis is leading the charge on doping and had the stat that they did like 400 tests total compared to the million it feels like in cycling.

Maybe it is banned since it was illegal at the time. Especially now whats to stop a player who plays in an illegal state to go to a legal one and smoke it etc.
 
While I can agree with some of the general conclusions -manning good, darnold bad etc, you are using team records to assess quarterbacks.

There's one little flaw in that though. The other 50 players, 20 coaches, luck of the schedule, division, injuries and refs etc.
Team records are exactly what many owners use to assess QBs (what's that old saying: NFL = Not For Long). And sometimes it's even more than regular season records and a single playoff appearance - but going to the Super Bowl is the benchmark. A few examples:

Recall Keenum at Minn in 2017. The starter Bradford gets hurt after just two games. Keenum starts week #3 and finishes the season. He goes 11-3 and the team finishes an amazing 13-3 with a division title. Keenum's stats are pretty good that season and he's named 51st best out of the top 100 NFL players for that year. They beat NO in the first round and play in the championship game one step from the SB, which is to be played at their brand new palace. Keenum plays poorly and the team gets hammered by the Eagles 38-7. Keenum, a free agent, is not re-signed and is let go. The owner wants the guy at the Skins and pays a fortune to get him. Most owners would have been thrilled doing cartwheels that their team made it to the conference championship and would have kept Keenum, at least for another year.

Remember Alex Smith? In his six (6) seasons at KC, they were all winning seasons with 2 divisional titles and all but one playoff appearance. And Smith had some pretty solid stats in some of those 6 winning seasons. But Smith was 1-4 in those playoffs games and couldn't get the team to at least the conference championship game. Obviously, ownership was a tad bit ticked because they didn't fire Reid, but instead traded the house away to get the Gunslinger, who incidentally took the team to the conference championship in his first full season as a starter. But I say the expectations for KC are a SB appearance or this will be considered a failure, considering they traded so much for Mahomes as they were all ready going to the playoffs practically every year with Smith.

Flacco: A SB winning MVP QB who goes 8-8 in 2016 and 9-7 in 2017 with no playoffs. In fact, his stats in 2016 were phenomenal with some career highs. But the Ravens were obviously not happy with the team's 17-15 record over back to back seasons and no playoffs, so instead of firing JH or blaming something else, they blame Flacco and go draft LJ in the 1st rd. Flacco gets hurt halfway during the following season going 4-5 before the injury - insert LJ who goes 6-1 and to the playoffs. So long Flacco and LJ is the new franchise QB exceeding expectations beyond belief this year with a 12-2 record thus far.

Manning: A two-time SB winning MVP QB goes 3-13 in 2017 & 5-11 in 2018 with phenomenal stats in 2017 (after a 11-5 season in 2016 and a 1st rd playoff loss). Nonetheless ownership selects Jones with the 6th OA pick in 2019 sending a clear message it's time to move on. And the Giants waste no time inserting Jones at the helm by the 3rd game this season. Even Mahomes had to sit the bench his rookie season (started only the last game after the division was locked up). Why not give Manning more offensive weapons to work with? This is a two-time SB winning MVP here and future HOF. This is a Manning. He's only 38 with no signficant injury history (Brady's only 42. Lol). The obvious reason was that he wasn't winning anymore - not enough "W" and ownership had enough. The Manning era is over and barring injury, Jones is expected to lead the Giants back to the SB glory years.

And look at the mess at Jacksonville this year: The owner opens his checkbook and signs Foles to a four-year, $88 million contract and $50.1 million in guaranteed money (this after dumping Bortels who in 2018 signed a 3 year, $54 million contract extension to stay with the Jags through the 2020 season!). Another SB winning MVP QB who is supposed to be the answer to all of Jacksonville's problems. Foles gets hurt in week#1 - insert Minshew who goes an impressive 4-5 for a 6th rd pick rookie drafted solely for a backup role. Foles is cleared to play getting his starting job back, but goes 0-3 and is benched for the rest of the season in favor of Minshew. And Minshew now has a chance to compete for the starting job next year. So, going into this Sunday's game you have a 6th rd pick rookie making $2.7 million/4-yrs starting and the 17th highest paid QB sitting the bench making him probably the highest paid backup in the history of the NFL.


 
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Maybe this is why they test for recreational drugs!
Its a bar so are you talking about alcohol? They don't test for that...
 
HOU@TB - While TB has been hot, I like the Texans in a must win game. We could see a fair amount of points in this one.
BUF@NE - Interesting stat. When the Bills have scored 20 or more points, they have won every game. When the Pats have given up 20 or more points, they have lost every game. So, can the Bills put up 20 on the Pats D? My gut says no.
LAR@SF - Rams too hot/cold, 49ers good or great in every game. This could start even, but end up with a fair amount of points.
 
HOU@TB - While TB has been hot, I like the Texans in a must win game. We could see a fair amount of points in this one.
BUF@NE - Interesting stat. When the Bills have scored 20 or more points, they have won every game. When the Pats have given up 20 or more points, they have lost every game. So, can the Bills put up 20 on the Pats D? My gut says no.
LAR@SF - Rams too hot/cold, 49ers good or great in every game. This could start even, but end up with a fair amount of points.
I'd pick all 3 of those as winners too. Have to say tho I'm pulling for BUF just cuz it has been so long for them. For SF and their recent injury attrition, I think they prevail with next man up. But if LA can stop the run and pressure JG, then there might be an upset. And LA might be more motivated with more to play for (not yet eliminated from playoffs yet right?), or is SF more motivated wanting to win the division?
Anyways, I love the last 2 matchups - BUF/NE & LAR/SF. Here we go!
 
Wasn't able to watch do to NFL rules so listened to the game (who did not like Sanu or the refs in the beginning with the after play hits from bills). The Patriots offense finally started clicking and Brady shows he still has some left. The score was closer than it should have been with the Patriots constantly shooting themselves. On to Dolphins which should be a win.

Refs still terrible though. I don't agree with the OPI on Edelman at all but that wasn't as bad as the one they called on Hilton.
 
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There's a lot of talk about SF being the best team in the league, but without being able to close, they aren't. Like F_C said above, SEA knows how to close SF not so much. SF could have closed it with a TD on their last drive, but slipped into a field goal. But then they just let ATL dance down the field to score the winning TD.
I'll reply to my own post to say that SF closed tonight (and at an important time of the year).
 
I'll reply to my own post to say that SF closed tonight (and at an important time of the year).
Not convincingly but the Rams made them fight for it. Jimmy had a patchy game and took too many sacks but a few clutch throws got them in FG range with help from their best offensive duo Sanders and Kittle. The first half was all offense and the second half all defense ! McVay looked very disappointed at the finish as the Rams were the better team in the first half. Entertaining game, just glad to get the win.
 
Managed to watch the Niners v Rams. An enjoyable game and a big boost for the Niners to get it done after last week. It sets up a huge match at the Seahawks next Sunday for the potential #1 seed.

They said on commentary that there is still a chance the Niners could drop to #6 seed with a loss, if true, that's a huge blow to overcome.
 

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