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Eagles, Saints and Ravens got the job done. Bad result for the Hawks. Bottom has fallen out of the Panthers since the coach was canned. Critical game for NFC playoff seedings between the Vikings and the Packers and also next week's Niners v Hawks.
 
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So looks like Gordon a test in the steroid program and while waiting for the appeal he falled the substance abuse test.

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New, Concerning Details Emerge About Josh Gordon's Latest Drug Suspension

Josh Gordon’s NFL career might be over. The NFL this week suspended the Seattle Seahawks receiver for violating the league’s substance-abuse policy. That news was bad enough, but new details on Gordon’s suspension paint an even uglier picture of a player whose off-field struggles regularly get...
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Eagles, Saints and Ravens got the job done. Bad result for the Hawks. Bottom has fallen out of the Panthers since the coach was canned. Critical game for NFC playoff seedings between the Vikings and the Packers and also next week's Niners v Hawks.
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Unless Hawks get healthy quick, it should be a W for SF. Offense for Seattle today v Cards: out was LT (Brown, knee needs surgery), lost LG (Iupati, neck) during game & did not return, backup C Hunt has played okay but he's a backup for good reason, #1 RB Carson lost during game (hip) & is ruled out v SF, #2 RB Penny is on IR, #3 RB Prosise lost during game (broken arm? I think it is) & is out v SF. This leaves rookie RB Homer as the only RB on the roster ATM. HEY, MARSHAWN LYNCH IS A FA THEY COULD SIGN RIGHT? LOL! Defensively, Hawks are just about as banged up, & they need to get S Lano Hill OFF the dang field! So, bad luck in the form of the injury bug finally caught up with Hawks today.

As for game play in Hawks v Cards, under those circumstances Russ Wilson could do nothing. Defensively, DC Ken Norton does the same thing over and over, and does not appear to make any adjustments. I just don't see how Hawks go forward with Norton after this season. With any luck, Atlanta says sayonara to HC Dan Quinn (the Hawks former DC) so Hawks can bring Quinn back as DC. What an embarrassment!
 
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on3m@n@rmy said:
Unless Hawks get healthy quick, it should be a W for SF. Offense for Seattle today v Cards: out was LT (Brown, knee needs surgery), lost LG (Iupati, neck) during game & did not return, backup C Hunt has played okay but he's a backup for good reason, #1 RB Carson lost during game (hip) & is ruled out v SF, #2 RB Penny is on IR, #3 RB Prosise lost during game (broken arm? I think it is) & is out v SF. This leaves rookie RB Homer as the only RB on the roster ATM. HEY, MARSHAWN LYNCH IS A FA THEY COULD SIGN RIGHT? LOL! Defensively, Hawks are just about as banged up, & they need to get S Lano Hill OFF the dang field! So, bad luck in the form of the injury bug finally caught up with Hawks today.

As for game play in Hawks v Cards, under those circumstances Russ Wilson could do nothing. Defensively, DC Ken Norton does the same thing over and over, and does not appear to make any adjustments. I just don't see how Hawks go forward with Norton after this season. With any luck, Atlanta says sayonara to HC Dan Quinn (the Hawks former DC) so Hawks can bring Quinn back as DC. What an embarrassment!
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Niners are pretty banged up as well mainly on defense. Missing Dee Ford and Kwon Alexander, Jones, Richburg from the O line, Tartt from the secondary, all starters but he and Sherman should be back next week. WR Goodwin out for the season with Hurd their rookie WR and now to top it off, back up QB CJ Beathard's brother has been murdered ! Luckily their offense is mainly intact. RB McKinnon was signed almost two seasons ago and still hasn't made it on the field. I'm guessing he will be cut after this season . WR Trent Taylor was also injured in the preseason and has missed the entire season. As of last week the Niners had 15 injured, the same number as the Falcons coincidentally. Those RB losses look bad for the Hawks. I saw a little of the Hawks game and it looked pretty ugly, will have to chase up the highlights. I heard that Kyler Murray also pulled a hamstring. Best time of the season to do it if the playoffs are not a factor.
 
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Beast Mode has landed in SEA for a workout and physical. Turbin is also headed to the team facility today. A short season is perfect for an old (er) power runner, but the question is how quickly he can get rolling. Some of that depends on the workouts he has been doing, but also how quickly can game speed and rhythm come to him?
 
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Green Bays offense out performed Minnesota's by a wide margin. They lost all the momentum when Cousins couldn't catch the trick play (which could have been a big gain or TD since no one was even close to him). Then Thielen not catching the falling down pass in the first and the TD getting negated didn't help matters.
 
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on3m@n@rmy said:
HEY, MARSHAWN LYNCH IS A FA THEY COULD SIGN RIGHT? LOL!
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Good call. Wait. You were joking? o_O

An emotional boost will help, but the problem is the Seahawks are built to run a lot. I'm not sure Lynch and Turbin can actually pull that off enough?

As to SF, their last few games were track meets with high scores. If they are really going to go deep in the playoffs they need to get back to the D they had the first 10 games of the year.

Philly doesn't look so bad at this point. If they can beat NYG next week they win the division. They could host a game against a beat up Seattle team with no top RB's.

Jason Garrett has to be done in Dallas. Regardless if the team thinks they can get someone else better. I just don't see Jerry keeping him. The question is, do they keep and sign Dak Prescott? I think Jerry should just try to coach the team himself, why not, right?!

I still think Urban Meyer is going to land in Washington, and there's more than a 50% chance Lincoln Riley will end up in Cleveland, especially if the Browns manage to lose to the Bengals next week and go 6-10, after all the hype of them making the next step, all that talent, then all the team's disruption and mistakes.

The opposite of these teams, the Packers looked like they were finally showing us they were for real last night. They are currently the #2 seed, and if they win at Detroit next week and Seattle manages to be SF, they get the #1 seed. In fact, the NFC is so contingent on next week, any team from SF to NO to GB can end up the #1 seed, and a team that's 12-4 could end up on the road in the WC playing an 8-8 team.

The only game that appears to be so right now for the playoff is Buffalo playing at Houston. The other AFC WC game is almost set. If Tennessee beats Houston (who has the #4 seed locked up) the Titans make the playoffs and play at KC (presuming NE beats Miami at home). If they lose, then the Steelers go to KC.

Here's ESPN's playoff machine. Try your luck:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine
 
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Good call. Wait. You were joking? o_O

An emotional boost will help, but the problem is the Seahawks are built to run a lot. I'm not sure Lynch and Turbin can actually pull that off enough?

As to SF, their last few games were track meets with high scores. If they are really going to go deep in the playoffs they need to get back to the D they had the first 10 games of the year.

Philly doesn't look so bad at this point. If they can beat NYG next week they win the division. They could host a game against a beat up Seattle team with no top RB's.

Jason Garrett has to be done in Dallas. Regardless if the team thinks they can get someone else better. I just don't see Jerry keeping him. The question is, do they keep and sign Dak Prescott? I think Jerry should just try to coach the team himself, why not, right?!
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Twas a good call. Wasn't joking. Laughing tho cuz 9 days or so ago he was serving shots at a Raider tailgate.

As to the boost, def an emotional one and attitude shot in the arm, as jmdirt indicated with that Lynch MF quote. I expect Seattle's #4 RB (Homer) still will get some significant reps. LG Iupati has to get back though since LT Brown is done for the season.

I think what will work best for Seattle however is to abandon the run first game plan, and turn Russell loose. Not with 5 to 7-step drop back passes (the OL cannot block well enough for that), but short quick passes getting the ball out in 2 to 3 seconds max. Set up the run with pass. Then maybe they could mix it up a bit. But OC Shottenheimer would have to have an epiphany, an aha moment. But Shotty is like a leopard who can't change his spots, and I have zero confidence he can change his philosophy.

You'd think Garrett has to be done, & maybe OC Moore. But what's the plan? No good coach available (Rivera, McCarthy, Urban Meyer) would want to take a puppet's, yes-man job, answering to a micro-managing egomaniacal owner.
 
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Twas a good call. Wasn't joking. Laughing tho cuz 9 days or so ago he was serving shots at a Raider tailgate.

As to the boost, def an emotional one and attitude shot in the arm, as jmdirt indicated with that Lynch MF quote. I expect Seattle's #4 RB (Homer) still will get some significant reps. LG Iupati has to get back though since LT Brown is done for the season.

I think what will work best for Seattle however is to abandon the run first game plan, and turn Russell loose. Not with 5 to 7-step drop back passes (the OL cannot block well enough for that), but short quick passes getting the ball out in 2 to 3 seconds max. Set up the run with pass. Then maybe they could mix it up a bit. But OC Shottenheimer would have to have an epiphany, an aha moment. But Shotty is like a leopard who can't change his spots, and I have zero confidence he can change his philosophy.

You'd think Garrett has to be done, & maybe OC Moore. But what's the plan? No good coach available (Rivera, McCarthy, Urban Meyer) would want to take a puppet's, yes-man job, answering to a micro-managing egomaniacal owner.
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Beast Mode is going to pop a hammer run early to set the tone and then do the same near the end for the win or to set up the win! You are correct, Homer should touch the ball a dozen times.

Au contraire, many O' coach would take that job for the prestige and $$$$! I still say (without really knowing) that KM is sending in better plays than DP is running.
 
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Injuries have hurt the Niners defense. Two critical injuries were Jones from the D line and Tartt from the secondary. Both were playing out of their skin. Dee Ford was also playing well but he might be back soon, as well as Tartt. I expect the Seattle game will be more of the same with the 49ers, It's always a grudge match. Be surprised if if it was a big margin either way. Both teams have a lot to play for. Oddly when the 49ers offense improved their defense started to go off. They have given up big points in their last four games and they only won the Saints and Rams games because, their defense was even worse. Kwon Alexander going out for the season was also a blow to the defense as he was also in very good form. But for me Fred Warner has been their D line player of the year so far and he rarely has a bad game like Kittle. The few games Kittle missed impacted badly for the offense.
 
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The stakes for SE in its game vs. SF may not be that much. Start with GB's win over MN. This means that the loser of SF@SE is the fifth seed, or first WC, and will play at either Dallas or Philly. No worries about possibly being a six seed and going to GB or NO. SE's loss to AZ, though, means that if GB and NO both win their last game--maybe even if they don't--the Seahawks will be just the third seed. Is that much better than being the fifth seed? The third seed still has to play a WC game, they just get to play at home. But that may not be an advantage for SE. If they are third seed, they host MN, rather than going to Dallas or Philly. For all their problems, the Vikings appear to be a much better team than Dallas or Philly, even on the road vs. at home. So while they probably won't look at it that way, you could make a very good argument that SE would be better off losing to SF and going to Dallas or Philly.

What about going deeper in the playoffs? If SE won its game as the third seed, they would play the second seeded team. If they won their game as a fifth seed, who they played next would depend on the outcome of MN vs. the third seed. NO and GB would be the top two seeds in the first scenario, but we don't know at this point in which order. But does it matter? NO is probably the better team,but at least you can play the Saints in a warm dome, whereas a game in GB might be another epic ice bowl. If SEwon its game as a fifthseed, who they played next would depend on who won the 6 vs. 3 WC game. IF MN won, they would play the no. 1 seed, the 49ers, whereasif GB or NO won, SE would play the 49ers. So probably SE would have to play the 49ers, but they know them, of cours.e

If the 49ers win, they're definitely the no. 1 seed, so they do have a lot of stake. But another consequence o SE's loss to AZ is that the 49ers could win the division if they just tie SE. That seems unlikely, but remember when the two teams met earlier in the season, the game almost ended in a tie, and probably would have if the 49ers hadn't passed--literally--on a chance for a tie. But if they do tie this time, and NO and GB win their final game, then the 49ers are a third seed, with the potential disadvantage of hosting MN. It could get really interesting if the game were Sunday night, because then the 49ers would know where they stood if they tied,and that might affect any decisions they made if the game went to OT. If they were looking at a third seed with a tie, I'd think they'be well-advised not to play for a tie, unless they can do it without affecting their chances of winning.

Edit: SF@SE is indeed on Sunday night. So SE will know going into the game where they will be seeded if they win, and the 49ers will know where a tie would put them. More specifically, SE can get a first seed with a win only if both GB and NO lose. In fact, if GB wins, SE is the no. 3 seed, regardless of what NO does. If GB loses and NO wins, SE would be the no. 2 seed.

So the most likely scenarios are:

If SF wins:

SF
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MN

Assuming NO > MN and SE > PH/DA, the divisional round would be NO@GB and SE@SF.

If SE wins:

GB
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Assuming SE > MN and SF > PH/DA, the divisional round would be SE@NO and SF@GB. So though the 49ers would avoid a WC game at GB if they lose to SE, assuming SE beat MN in the WC game, SF would still end up playing in GB the following week.

Note also that while a lot of sympathy has been expressed for SF or SE, one of which will have to play a WC game on the road against a team with a vastly inferior record, the Saints could end up hosting a WC game even if they finish 13-3. That's if both SF and GB win while NO wins.

Meanwhile, while the winner of the NFC E may be 8-8--if you think Philly isn't fully capable of losing to the NYG, you haven't been paying attention--the same may also be true in the AFC, where two 8-7 teams, the Steelers and the Titans, and one 7-8 team-- the Raiders!--all have a shot for the second WC. Amazing that the Raiders are still alive, but an awful lot has to happen for them to win a WC. Not only do they have to win and the Steelers and Titans lose, but another 7-8 team, Indy, has to lose, and at least one other team has to win in order for the Raiders to win a tie-breaker on strength of schedule vs. the Steelers.
 
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Skittle shortage coming to Seattle. Marshawn Lynch signed about a minute ago. Robert Turbin signed earlier.
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Why the heck is Seattle signing a convicted doper?

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There's a couple of decent free agents out there in C.J. Anderson & Doug Martin and they go and sign a doper? Lol.

This is where the NFL is becoming a barrel of Laughs and more of an entertainment organization such as the WWE. In cycling, a rider gets popped for a PED violation and they're thrown off the team for good and pretty much tarred & feathered for the rest of their career. And after serving their ban, their chances of getting back into professional cycling is slim to none.

Seattle wants to give a convicted doper another chance? (So, I guess Carroll will sit down with him and say; "listen son, can you lay off the PEDs while you're playing for us because if you get target tested and come up glowing...I'll have a lot of explaining to do. Lol).




 
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