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Houston will lose in Indy next week mark my words, unless Indy takes it easy due to their playoff seeding being set (I think).
I kind of expect that too. It looks like the Texans peaked too soon. The Hawks, on the other hand, are looking seriously awesome right now.

The Ravens murdered the Giants in the first half, Flacco was on fire. But like the Skins, the Ravens never seem to be able to keep their foot to the floor for an entire game, like the Pack and the Hawks have shown in recent weeks.

RG3 was really 'looked after' by the Shanahans, no pistol offense, no fancy stuff, he hardly ran at all. The Skins play calling was 'traditional', for lack of a better word. Finally, the powers that be have recognized the importance of, and widespread interest in, the NFCE decider at Fedex, and have moved the game from 1 pm to Sun. evening prime time. Which means a very late night for me, but one not to be missed on any account!:cool:
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
A few games really stood out to me this weekend, both of which I picked wrong.

First, who wants to play Seattle now? But some questions arose from last night's game more than the answer that yes, the Seahawks really are that good, and in some ways actually managed to beat the 49ers up, taking both Davis and Manningham out. But can the 49ers come from behind, no matter who the QB is? Also, it's Justin, not Alden Smith who the 49ers need. The wrong time of the year for the 49ers to have these problems.

Green Bay's beating of Tennessee wasn't that surprising, but the way they demolished them perhaps was. As I alluded to in recent posts, the Packers are getting healthy and peaking at the right time.

I would have thought the loss to the 49ers would have been a wake up call to the Patriots. I was wrong. Playing well in the 4Q helped, but this doesn't look like a SB team.

Houston holding AP to low yardage, but still losing handily to Minnesota was something. I am starting to think the Colts can beat them next week. Props to them, btw, and to Andrew Luck breaking the rookie passing yardage record. Who thought they would go 11-5, or 10-6 even.

Denver keeps on rolling, but let's see what happens playoff time. I can however see them beating Houston.

The pasting the Ravens gave to the Giants was no where near as close as the 33-14 score would have you believe. It was over early, and the Ravens just pummeled them. If there were concerns in Baltimore, they may be gone. Two weeks in a row, and three of four the Giants have been demolished... But get this. The Giants play Philly next week and can get in with some possible help. So, imagine the Giants squeaking out a win over Philly and eeking into the playoffs as a WC. They travel to SF and beat the injured 49ers again, then go to GB, and then Atlanta, and a few ball bounces their way, they win again. Then in the SB they play non other than the Patriots and become the first 8-8 team to win a SB. Imagine that? :eek:
My small brain can only imagine Seattle....seattle....Merry Christmas.
 
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Oldman said:
My small brain can only imagine Seattle....seattle....Merry Christmas.
I believe I'm right in thinking that if the Skins win their division, their 'reward' is a home game against the Seahawks - unless the Hawks win their division, in which case the Skins would face the Niners.

Foles played the whole second half with a broken hand, Vick to start against the Giants, which might just change the odds slightly.
 
Making a blind guess, I'd say the playoffs look like this:

AFC

Den and NE get byes
Cincy at Houston
Indy at Balt

Presuming the winners are Cincy, Baltimore that means Cincy would go to Denver, and NE would host Baltimore

NFC

Atl and GB get byes
Seattle at Wash
Chicago (or Minn, or NYG) at SF

Presuming the winners are Seattle and SF, that means Seattle would go to Atl and SF at GB.

Lot of assumptions there.
 
Alpe d'Huez said:
Making a blind guess, I'd say the playoffs look like this:

AFC

Den and NE get byes
Cincy at Houston
Indy at Balt

Presuming the winners are Cincy, Baltimore that means Cincy would go to Denver, and NE would host Baltimore

NFC

Atl and GB get byes
Seattle at Wash
Chicago (or Minn, or NYG) at SF

Presuming the winners are Seattle and SF, that means Seattle would go to Atl and SF at GB.

Lot of assumptions there.
Houston should beat Indy this week for a very simple reason. The Colts are locked into 5th seed, can’t finish higher or lower. Not to mention that being 5th seed is not always better than being 6th seed, and this year in the AFC is a good example, since no one knows yet who the third and fourth seeds will be. NE could yet finish fourth, but I’d rather play the Ravens than Brady and co. With no advantage to a win, the Colts should be resting some players, including Luck. Not for the whole game, but for some of it.

So I still think Houston will be no. one seed, followed by Denver, NE and Baltimore. Indy will play Baltimore and Cincy at NE. I think the home teams will win those games, but Indy could upset Baltimore. And I’m sticking to my prediction that Houston will make it to the title game. If the seeds are as I predict, Houston will not have to face either NE or Denver to reach the title game.

Your NFC view looks right, except I give Minn a decent chance to beat GB. The Vikings are fighting for a playoff spot and will be very motivated. The Packers are fighting for a first round bye, which IMO is a big advantage, but I’m told by those who know that teams have trouble motivating themselves for a higher seed after they make the playoffs.

The Giants still have a shot at the playoffs, but not at eight and eight. Seattle has one WC locked up, and the Vikings and Bears have won nine games. The Giants have to win their last game, the Vikings and Bears have to lose, and Washington has to beat Dallas. Actually, that is a fairly likely scenario, but with the postseason on the line, the Bears ought to be able to beat the Lions. So I'm guessing the Bears will be the sixth seed, and even with some troubles on defense, the Niners should be able to handle them again. Should be fun watching RGIII vs. the Seahawk defense--and RGIII vs. Wilson--but I agree the West Coast Washington team wins that one. Seattle at Atlanta could be one of the most interesting of all the playoff games.

I think Wilson has locked up ROY after his latest performance, though it will certainly be close with RGIII. What a year for rookie QBs, seven if you count Noles and Cousins, and nearly one third of the teams have a QB in his first or second year.

How about Pete Carroll as COY? The only team that has been more surprising than Seattle is Indy, but their coach has been on the sidelines for much of the season, and so shouldn’t really be eligible IMO. John Fox in Denver should get some votes, too, and maybe Jeff Fisher. As Alpe noted before, the Rams seem poised to be contenders next year.

Edit: Apparently the talk is that Indy's interim coach will win the award. I didn't realize he has been the de facto coach for nearly the whole season. The Colts are nine - three since he took over.
 
My gut tells me Minn doesn't have what it takes to stop GB. The Packers wont coast (much) and their offensive firepower is too much for the Vikings, but we'll see. The reason I picked Indy over Hou is that Pagano will be back on the sidelines for the Colts which will be a huge emotional boost, and I honestly think the Texans are somewhat on a slide. But the Colts defense isnt strong, and it could be a 38-34 type of game.

So, if Houston gets the bye, who is going to take out Den and NE, as you suggest? Right now, if the Texans get to the SB and have to play Atl, GB, Sea or SF, I see them losing by double digits, unless they can pull a serious turnaround.

Agree the Seahawks-Falcons match, should we get there, would be intriguing.

Mario Manningham meanwhile is out for the season with a torn ACL and PCL for San Francisco. Vernon Davis is likely to miss this week's game against AZ, resting a concussion. If you didn't see the hit Seattle's Kam Chancellor put on Davis (I thought legal), watch it. No helmet contact (either player), and Davis head didn't even hit the turf, but the impact was so hard Davis cme away with a concussion anyway. That hit alone encapsulated the entire game. Who thought the Seahawks would not only win, and win big, but beat up th 49ers the way they did?
 
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I love Vick as a player and as a person.:)
He has been shown the error in his former ways and has truly become a reformed person, unlike many in life without the fame or fortune. Good on him. He'll make a great return with hopefully another team that has an offensive line worth two and half cents.
 
veganrob said:
Calvin breaks Jerry Rice's yardage mark last night. Will get 2k next week. He is truly an amazing athlete, in as class of his own. Also a classy and humble guy, works hard all the time. No diva.
Too bad he is all we have in the "D" worth watching righ now.
I agree although they need to erect a statue in honor of Jason Hanson for all the year's in his career that he was the Lions best player and the only one to exceedingly carry out his position's responsibilities.

I foolishly had hope after the Lions' 2011 season but all the off-season drama and trouble that many of the players got involved in led me to believe that they don't respect their coach and that management didn't take the character issue into consideration when selecting some of these clowns.

The coach needs to go. Some of his and his offensive coordinators decisions have left me wondering what the hell was he thinking, if he was thinking at all. The offense play calling in the redzone completely lacks imagination which is reflected in their laughable inability to close the deal. I stopped watching them at about midseason for fear that I might damage my tv by throwing something at it! They are continuing the cycle of Lions teams that are so bad that often the only highlight is to read the media's skewering on the following Monday of their comical playing.
 
FoxxyBrown1111 said:
I still love Vick (the QB, the athlete, NOT the person) :)
The stat lines:
Vick 3-6 (5.9 Y/PP)
Foles 1-5 (5.5 Y/PP)
I'll again refer to Merckx comments on Y/PP from before, and have repeatedly pointed out time and again why Vick is one of the most over-hyped players in recent NFL history. I have nothing else to say about the guy.

As to the Lions, I don't know that Schwartz needs to go, unless the Lions are sure they can get someone better in there. While you could argue Linehan had poor play calling, the Lions offense ranks second in the NFL, to only the Patriots. Their defense, at 13th in yards given up isn't bad, though they are 27th in points, meaning they are poor against the pass and in the red zone. Even Foxxy's coveted Y/PP they are 12th.

Also, Schwartz has been an emotional shot in the arm to the Lions who were horrible before he came around. So I wouldn't toss him after one bad year. They could however start looking at some of their player personnel. Schwartz did cut Culbrath, and stood up to Titus Young, who likely will never play in a Lion uniform again. He also needs to make waves that they are looking to shore up poor pass defense and poor character in the off season and upcoming draft, and that they are willing to dump name players (like Suh and Fairly) if necessary. That might straighten some of these idiots out, or find replacements for them. If Schwartz can't do that, then he probably should be fired. But I think he can.
 
Looking back to the start of the season's predictions can be fun. Here are some thoughts that appeared in my crystal ball before the season started :):

First on 7/1 and then on 7/13 I thought the Pistol offense would work in the NFL, and Colin Kaepernick would be a good QB to pull it off (right, and mostly right, though SF only runs some pistol).

Also, the Broncos would finish 10-6 or 11-5 in a weak division (close), and the Saints could finish 12-4 (wrong) or 8-8 (maybe!).

On 7/28 I picked five players to bust this year:
1. Mark Sanchez (1000% correct, hand me a prize!).
2. Charles Johnson (right).
3. Michael Vick (right).
4. Pierre Garçon (wrong).
5. Reggie Bush (wrong).

On 8/13 I thought: Terrell Pryor could be good if he played (he hasn't). The Chiefs were stacked as a team and could contend (way off). Luke Keuchly, while talented, may be too small for the NFL and get hurt (wrong again).

On 8/16: Luck would not win ROY, and Justin Blackmon wouldn't either, and Bruce Irvin would play well, but no where near ROY. (Right on all counts).

On 8/19: Adrian Peterson was coming back too soon, and Brandon Jacobs could make an impact for the 49ers. (Dead wrong on both counts).

On 8/21. The Eagles had talent, and Nick Foles could be good, but Vick would bust. (Jury still out on Foles, right on Vick, wrong on Eagles fortunes). Saw the Chiefs play pre-season that day and had quick second thoughts they would actually be good. (Should have actually listened to myself!).

On 8/26 when Russell Wilson was named the starter in Seattle I started to move to his fan side and said he could turn out to be a steal of a draft pick (true). But the following dayI questioned how good Seattle would be with him at the helm, and called them a team that may be average (dead wrong). Later that day I said the Jets looked like a disaster, and Tebow was being wasted (both true).

On 8/28, leading up to the NCAA season, I questioned whether Logan Thomas would have a good QB year at VT, and questioned similar about Tyler Wilson. I was right. Thomas all but busted, and Wilson struggled. I still had stock in Landry Jones though, and he started slow but played very well in the stretch. Could be next year's draft steal.

On 9/4 I picked Brady to be MVP, and approach 6,000 yards, 500 completions and 60 TDs (probably right on MVP, wrong on stats). I thought Calvin Johnson would break Jerry Rice receiving record though. I liked Luck for ROY mostly due to popularity, and Patrick Willis for DPOY. Potential breakout teams to me were Kansas City (way wrong!), Detroit (wrong!), Houston (meh), Seattle (guessed under), Cincinnati (right) and Philadelphia (way wrong!).

Finally, on 9/4 I gave my NFL season predictions. I won't re-list it here, but point out some things: I liked the Broncos early, and to be "one and done" in the playoffs, we'll see about that one. I said the Eagles would be 11-5 and Vick stink (wrong, right), and the Giants average and miss the playoffs, and the Skins to "improve" to 7-9. I also said Chicago and Detroit would fight for a WC (right, wrong), and the Saints to finish 11-5 (wrong). I said Atl and Car would contend for WC (Atl better, Car some bad breaks). Said TB and Freeman would stink (mostly right). Didn't see SF going past about 10-6 with Alex Smith. Saw Seattle around 9-7. And last, I liked the Pats to finish 12-4 and win the SB over the 11-5 Packers. This could still happen.

:cool:
 
LOL, Amster, first map I've ever seen where Texas is the only blue state! Congrats to RGIII for making the Pro Bowl, one of only two rookies to do so, and the only one playing on offense or defense.

Justin Smith has a partially torn triceps. This is bad news for the 49ers, not clear if he can play in the postseason. If the defense continues to play the way they have so far without him—second half vs. Pats, the whole game vs. the Seahawks—they will struggle to win the WC game they will probably get, and I can’t see them getting any further, vs. teams like GB, Atlanta or Seattle.

He’s a Pro Bowler and I would expect the defense to be hurt a little by his loss, but not that much. The Pro Bowl squads were just named, and the 49ers lead the NFL with nine players, including six on defense, five starters. If half your defense is Pro Bowlers, you should still be very good with one of them missing. Maybe it’s just a matter of Smith’s replacement getting in synch.

If Smith can play at or near 100%, then the 49ers have the kind of defense that can keep them in games even when the offense struggles. And with Mario Manningham and Vernon Davis out, the offense can be expected to struggle. I think they can survive without Manningham--they didn't have him last year when they almost went to the SB--but they really need Davis, who apparently still has not been cleared to play following a concussion. Though his production has been way down this year, that's in good part because defenses focus on shutting him down, opening up other receivers. They should be able to beat Arizona without him, but they have to him for the postseason.

Without him, they are down to Michael Crabtree—who is playing much better this year than last year—and Randy Moss, who has only been seeing spot duty. The team reportedly will move up one of their reserves, Ricardo Lockette or Chad Hall, but not first round draft pick A.J. Jenkins. Lockette is big and fast, a former track star who had the fastest 40 yd dash of all the WRs at his combine. Might be a great target for Kaepernick going deep. But the big question is, will Moss see more action? With Davis out, I think he has to play a lot more. It was always the plan for him to play more in the postseason, but now he may be needed to play most of the game. Does he want to? Can he?

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Steve Coll, a prize-winning reporter who wrote a book on Afghanistan (Ghost Wars) that I highly recommend for understanding the background to our involvement there, weighs in on corruption and concussions in the NFL. Coll thinks the pay to injure scheme is very serious:

if pay-to-hurt is as endemic as [Saints interim HC Joe] Vitt reportedly suggested, it may eventually lead to game-fixing schemes by professional gamblers. At least a quarter of a billion dollars is wagered weekly on N.F.L. regular-season games. Big dollars, weak refereeing, and corrupted locker rooms are a recipe for organized crime.
Wrt concussions, Coll says there are now about four thousand lawsuits pending against the NFL. I’m pretty sure I read less than a year ago that it was two thousand, so there must be a serious band-wagon effect going on.

I did a rough calculation. Several hundred players are drafted each year. Assume about one hundred go on to have significant careers in the NFL, starting or having a lot of playing time for at least several years. If the average player dies in his early seventies, about fifty years after his pro career begins, that means very roughly there are about five thousand former and current NFL players alive. But current players, as well as recently retired ones say in their early 30s, would presumably not be suing the NFL.

So there are about four thousand former NFL players who might be of an age where medical problems begin to set in. If there are four thousand lawsuits, this means virtually everyone! Even allowing for serious errors in my assumptions—the number could be doubled or tripled if you include marginal players who saw very little action--the figure is obviously a very substantial proportion of former players.

The range of problems I am sure is very wide. At one end of the spectrum you have guys who can no longer take care of themselves, are homeless, etc.; at the other end you have guys who may have very minor problems, even some who are perhaps faking it just to get in on the gravy train. But there must be a large % in the middle who have a real case. I just don’t see how the NFL, as popular as it is, is going to survive this without enormous changes.

If Goodell and the owners don’t change the League’s rules fast enough to reduce concussions to a level comparable to that present in baseball and basketball—where concussions are very rare accidents—then the League will face a devastating reckoning. The tobacco and asbestos industries’ experiences show that, in the long run, if a commercial product causes widespread injuries among customers or workers, the manufacturer will pay—and government regulators may step in even before courtroom verdicts are fully calculated.
Coll himself seems to think the NFL will have to change to what practically amounts to touch football rules to survive:

But eliminating kickoffs and encouraging players to tackle lower, avoiding each other’s heads—measures Goodell has started to implement or has hinted that he might take up—are not going to get it done. As in rugby, N.F.L. tackling will have to evolve among players into an act of mutual, subtly agreed stoppage in play, when one player gets his arms adequately around another—not the act of all-out assault by one player against another that it is now.
Sounds like the “in the grasp” rule that was instituted a while back to protect QBs. Good luck with that. I'm sure Adrian Peterson will say to some LB, yeah, you got me wrapped up, so I will stop right here. Can’t wait to see the response of James Harrison to this proposal.

Edit: There have been a little more than 19,000 players drafted by the NFL since 1955, which I’m guessing is about the year at which 50% of players drafted would still be alive. About 2500 have been drafted since 2003, and I assume very few of these would be involved in current suits, either because they are still active or because they are at an age when they have not yet experienced symptoms. So a rough estimate is that there are about 17,000 former NFL players who might be old enough (> 30) to be retired and experiencing symptoms. Many of these I’m sure never actually played in the NFL, and many more played very little. But even using this number, almost 25% of them are currently suing the NFL. And that number is growing very fast. Less than two years ago, when I believe these lawsuits were initiated, the number was only 75.

Edit: My preseason predictions:

NFC:

Bears would win the North (wrong, but if Cutler hadn’t gone down for a couple of games, they might have; still can make the playoffs)
Atlanta would win the South, and the Saints would struggle to be second (right on both counts)
Eagles would go to the SB (what was I thinking? But after two or three games I was on the Falcon band-wagon)
Niners would win the West easily (pretty much right, all they have to do is beat Arizona)

AFC:

Ravens might not win the North (they have, but have struggled)
Chargers would win the West (never underestimate the power of Norv to get the leastest from the mostest)
Houston would go to the SB (No longer favorites for that, but I’m sticking to my prediction that they will get to the AFC title game)
Didn’t pick a winner in the East, because like everyone else I assumed it was obvious the Pats would take it. Year in, year out, is there a safer prediction in the NFL?

Didn’t predict much in the way of individual performances, except that Luck would not suck. His numbers don’t look good, but the consensus everywhere outside of Foxxy-Foxxy land is that he’s had a really good year. Has to be doing something right to get this team to the playoffs. At least one sportswriter thinks he was snubbed for the Pro Bowl, that he should have been taken over Schaub.
 
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LOL, Amster, first map I've ever seen where Texas is the only blue state! Congrats to RGIII for making the Pro Bowl, one of only two rookies to do so, and the only one playing on offense or defense.
Thanks Merckx, I'm quietly glowing with vicarious pride. Thanks also for another thoughtful and thought provoking contribution! Why don't you pick along with us for the last week?

Thanks also to Alpe for that summary of your early season foresight. Award yourself the Nostradamus Bowl for Sanchez and Vick.:D

I'll kick off week 17.

TB @ ATL - A semi lock for the Falcons
NYJ @ BUF - Lock # 1
BAL @ CIN - If last week's Ravens turn up, they can win this - but will they?
CHI @ DET - Again, which Bears will turn up? The real ones, I hope.
JAC @ TEN - Titans should be too good at home
HOU @ IND - Pagano's early return to inspire Colts to revenge win
CAR @ NO - Lock # 2, though it could be close if Cam catches fire
PHI @ NYG - If the Giants play like the last two weeks they could even lose this one, but I don't believe it
CLE @ PIT - Lock # 3 Ben has got much to prove

KC @ DEN - Lock # 4
GB @ MIN - Not quite a lock, but the Pack should be too strong
MIA @ NE - Lock # 5
OAK @ SD - Honestly, I don't want to pick either of these two
ARI @ SF - Lock # 6
STL @ SEA - Lock # 7

DAL @ WSH - Of course, this is the game everyone is really waiting for! I expect a high scoring, offense dominated game. Can the Skin's secondary cope with Dez? Can the Boy's line cope with Morris? Will RG3 play without that brace? If he does, I expect the usual offensive mixed bag of fireworks and I obviously hope and expect that the Skins win this one, even if by a last second FG. We're all so looking forward to getting crushed by the Hawks in the next game.

Lock # 2 looks like the most likely candidate for an upset, so it'll almost certainly be one of the others. There are bound to be more than three away wins too.....stop, don't think too deeply, just go with the flow that led to 14-2 last week.:p
 
Thanks again Merckx for the thoughtful post. I too fear that the NFL may be so fearful of losing lawsuits that they implement too many safety rules. I completely understand the helmet to helmet, but what I don't get are clean hard hits that get penalized, such as Chancellor's hit on Davis that still resulted in a concussion. If you watch the play again Chancellor didn't go for the helmet, and didn't even really leave his feet. It was actually Davis who left his feet and opened himself up to the hit. I don't know a single thing Kam could have done other than let Davis catch the ball, or take his knees out. And to me, that's not football. The way to stop hits like this are for receivers to stop running such routes that expose them to free safetys (and Chancellor one of the hardest hitting in the league), receivers to stop leaving their feet with defenders possibly approaching, and for the QB's to stop leaving their receivers vulnerable with passes like this.

My week's picks:

TB @ ATL - Atlanta nothing to play for, but TB reeling.
NYJ @ BUF - As bad as Buffalo is...
BAL @ CIN - I like the Bengals at home in a playoff-like atmosphere.
CHI @ DET - Bears in a must-win, win.
JAC @ TEN - Both teams with problems.
HOU @ IND - Should be close, but I think having Pagano there turns this into a near playoff frenzy of a game.
CAR @ NO - Two of the best teams not in the playoffs. Saints at home.
PHI @ NYG - The Giants are playing horrible, and Vick may be looking to rejuvinate things, but the Giants must win to have any shot.
CLE @ PIT - After winning 3 of 4, Browns now lost 3 in a row.
KC @ DEN - Denver win means a bye.
GB @ MIN - Near playoff game, with Packers playing for needed bye to rest players. Look for AP to break 2000.
MIA @ NE - Pats flat last week, but will win here.
OAK @ SD - Last win before much needed house cleaning.
ARI @ SF - SF must win, and will. But will Alex Smith see playing time?
STL @ SEA - StL is rather tough and won't roll over, but Seattle on fire.
DAL @ WSH - Winner takes all, and how fitting. Cowboys more tools, but Skins inspired and on a roll.

Biggest injuries leading to the post season, and quick changes after season's end in another post.
 
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My picks:

TB @ ATL
NYJ @ BUF
BAL @ CIN
CHI @DET
JAC @ TEN
HOU @ IND
CAR @ NO
PHI @ NYG
CLE @ PIT
KC @ DEN
GB @ MIN
MIA @ NE
OAK @ SD
ARI @ SF
STL @ SEA
DAL @ WSH
 
Amsterhammer said:
Plus this vote on who's most likely to make the playoffs: LINK ...for sure!


Alpe d'Huez said:
Thanks again Merckx for the thoughtful post. I too fear that the NFL may be so fearful of losing lawsuits that they implement too many safety rules. I completely understand the helmet to helmet, but what I don't get are clean hard hits that get penalized, such as Chancellor's hit on Davis that still resulted in a concussion. If you watch the play again Chancellor didn't go for the helmet, and didn't even really leave his feet. It was actually Davis who left his feet and opened himself up to the hit. I don't know a single thing Kam could have done other than let Davis catch the ball, or take his knees out. And to me, that's not football. The way to stop hits like this are for receivers to stop running such routes that expose them to free safetys (and Chancellor one of the hardest hitting in the league), receivers to stop leaving their feet with defenders possibly approaching, and for the QB's to stop leaving their receivers vulnerable with passes like this.
Agree that hit by Cam Chancellor was legal. Well, apparently the NFL agrees that it was legal too according to the fines levied out against various things today... LINK, seeing as how Chancellor was not fined. If the NFL continues to go nuts by overprotecting I may have to stop watching the NFL. What the h-e-double-toothpick is the defense supposed to do? Just let the offense do what they want? Instead of tossing a flag for every hit that is near illegal, they may have to start reviewing those in the booth too. Sooner or later if they don't review them there is going to be a game changing penalty for a hit that really was legal. That could have been a game changer in Seattle vs SF, except that SEA completely stomped on SF.

As a side note related to that LINK, Cam Newton's a good guy based on his fines, huh?

NFL did nail Ed Reed for his high hit on NYG Victor Cruz last week. Now that one was illegal. If you watch the video in the next link starting at about the 2:40 timeline, and specifically at 2:50 to 2:55, you will see Reed's shoulder pad hit the facemask of Cruz, torquing Cruz's head sideways. LINK

On ESPN, John Clayton says Reed is getting close to a suspension (LINK).


FoxxyBrown1111 said:
My picks:

TB @ ATL
NYJ @ BUF
BAL @ CIN
CHI @DET
JAC @ TEN
HOU @ IND
CAR @ NO
PHI @ NYG
CLE @ PIT
KC @ DEN
GB @ MIN
MIA @ NE
OAK @ SD
ARI @ SF
STL @ SEA
DAL @ WSH
I'm going with Foxxy's picks, except I think MIN at home will take GB down. I can see AP and his OL in the huddle. Nobody's spose to talk in the huddle except QB, but I can see all the OLinemen silently mouthing these words to AP, "Adrian, just run behind me". That attitude gets it done.
 
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I am starting to get pretty damn nervous....and excited.....and stoked! The rarity value of this game is not unlike West Ham getting to the Cup final..iow, very rare indeed.

Foxxy, are you staying up for THE game?
 
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Amsterhammer said:
I picked Indy.:cool:
And here I thought you had turned over a new leaf and decided to start agreeing with everything I say. :)

It's ok, I pick Dos Santos over Valesquez last night. What a fight.

The issues are always there, and they have been there all season if anybody cared to look. It was all smoke and mirrors. They have been exposed, and as I noted earlier in this thread it doesn't really matter. It's a unique club down on Kirby Avenue.

If Peyton Manning hadn't broken his neck or left Indy, and Bum's boy wouldn't have caught lighting in a bottle last year with that defense, then they would still have never been to the playoffs. Something tells me that Kubiak would still be here, and Schaub would still have a new $60 million contract. Company men.

I actually think they may win next week, for some reason though Cincy is obviously alot better than last year IMO. If the line is over 6 I would take Cincy. I think the line today was something like that, and I wonder WTF Las Vegas is thinking. They will get rolled the next week, though. Give the points and take whoever they are playing, pronto.

Sports are funny. Cheering for a team is faith based, which doesn't go well with my make up. I want the Texans to win, but I have to hope for their losing over the long haul until by some miracle a change is made at head coach.
 
Wow, the Minn-GB game was one for the ages. A lot on the line: Minn had to win to make the playoffs, GB needed to win to get a first round bye, AP trying to break the rushing record. So late in the 4th quarter, the game is tied, Minn has the ball on the Packer 37. There is time for one running play left. AP is 35 yards short of the record, which means if he breaks one, he could score, win the game and set the record all on one play. Amazingly, he almost does, getting tackled on the 11 yard line. He misses the record by 9 yards, but puts his team in position to win the game with a short FG…Holy Smokes, what a finish. (If the kicker had missed, it would have gone into OT, and Peterson almost certainly would have broken the record).

GB now has to play the Vikings again next week, though at least they will get them at Lambeau. Seahawks will play the winner of Dallas-Washington. Would be really fun to see RGIII vs. the Seattle Defense, plus the head-to-head with Russell Wilson. 49ers get a bye, which could really help. Vernon Davis played a little today, should be 100% in two weeks. Will Justin Smith be able to play then? The answer could be critical to the playoffs.

Houston collapsed again, so Denver and NE get first round byes.

Here are my playoff predictions:

NFC

WC

Minn @ GB. Packers a little better at home.
SE @ Wash/Dallas. Seahawk defense clamps down on RGIII.

DIV

GB @ SF. In the absence of Justin Smith, Rodgers will go wild. But if Smith plays, I will pick SF.
SE @ ATL. Tough game to call, SE looks like the better team in recent weeks, but I think this is the Falcons’ year. This is perhaps not a rational pick.

Title

GB @ ATL. Revenge for that blowout two years ago.

AFC

WC

INDY @ BAL. Ravens will score on Indy’s poor defense.
CIN @ HOU. A rematch of last year’s WC game, with the same result. Even though they’ve slipped a little, Houston still the better team.

DIV

HOU @ NE. Houston’s defense can’t stop Brady and co.
BAL @ DEN. Manning is on a roll, the suddenly vulnerable Raven defense won’t stop him.

Title

NE @ DEN. Brady vs. Manning for the AFC title? It doesn't get any better. Brady wins most of these matchups, but not this time. Denver has a perhaps underrated defense, certainly better than NE's.

SB

ATL > DEN. It’s just the Falcons’ year.
 
Houston seems to be going in the wrong direction.

AP at 2097 total yards rushing is just 9 yards shy of Dickerson's. Good effort tho.

Eagles boned it, giving coach Reid (who will probably be fired Monday) a horrible send off. Reid deserved better.
 

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