National Football League

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Actually, he did regret hurting him

Thanks for the link.

One sentence: "To this day, Tatum holds no regrets for his decision to level Stingley on that early autumn afternoon". (And AFAIR, there was none, and no apology, nothing... that is less than LA did! At least him apologizes. If truly meant is another issue)

"I tried to apologize to him a number of times, but people around him wouldn't let that happen." That is the opposite of the last sentence.

Either way:

"It was a football injury that could happen on any lay to any player" Not true. Here is the hit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPlNhnT84Kc

Lowering the head, not seeing what is going to be hit (but obviously aiming high to hurt). He did not only risk Stingley, but his dangerous style could have easily paralyzed himself. And for what? The ball was overthrown. Uncatchable, and the hit happened after the ball was in the wider area of the hit. Cheap shot by all means!

Proper tackling is "See what you hit". He just wanted to fear away opposing receivers because he had no talent whatsoever. Cant stand guys like him, or Lott, or another real sicko like Waters. Old school safeties are the least talented. They are a dying species. And that is good... None of them shall be in the HOF. Lott also not. They became football players because of their reckless style. Never made it in sports or positions where talent is required.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

I take it that goes for Doug Plank as well?!

Some of them of course are better at covering than others. Kenny Easley or Bob Sanders for example.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

I heard Roger Staubach on the radio today. What a great guy. He talked about footballs and treating them, and how in his day both teams used the same ball. He also said that he didn't put much credence into the whole deflategate thing. Just like Boomer Esiason and Drew Brees, he mostly just liked a ball that was broken in a little. Had high praise for Drew Brees overall. But also had great admiration for Russell Wilson. Said there were very few players who would not have folded under the pressure Wilson was under in that game with Green Bay. To be that far down, with so little time left, and having played such a terrible game up to that point, very few players could have bounced back like that, and been mentally strong enough to do so. He was roundly impressed.

He also talked about how Tom Landry while giving a conservative appearance outwardly, was actually very innovative as a coach, which people forget. He said the Cowboys were the team who would line up in one formation, then shift to a completely different formation, they also put men in motion like no other team before them. It seems common today, but back in the 70's, no one else was doing it. They were also the first team in the modern NFL to use the shotgun. Landry quietly went to the officials to see if it was indeed legal, they said yes, and the Cowboys started using it.

He also said that he's happy Jerry Jones has extended Jason Garrett, who he thinks is an excellent coach. He's also hoping some players (like Romo) will restructure their contract so the Cowboys can keep both Bryant and Murray. But he also knows that the first contract Romo had was very low pay, considering how far in the draft he fell.

That last part is interesting, as Roger has done very well for himself financially and is one of the most wealthy men in sports history. But he's also shared a lot of his wealth with former players, and team personnel who have come upon difficult financial times. He didn't like to brag about it, but the impression was gathered that was the direction he was heading with his life and wealth. In a world where so many athletes demand huge money, then squander it away, it was nice to see someone who didn't do that, and wanting to give back.

People also forget that he was a 27 year old rookie, considering he served four years in the US Navy after college (including one tour in Viet Nam, when he could have stayed stateside), and he didn't even start in his first season. Amazing career he had in a relatively short time. Said he suffered several concussions, two of them bad, where he was basically knocked unconscious, and in the end that was a message to retire, though his final season was an excellent one.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Who is going to watch tonight?

My final pick: SEA 24, NE 0

 

[Tricycle Rider]

Who is going to watch tonight?

My final pick: SEA 24, NE 0

I've got my Monopoly money on no one when it comes to this game. I just am not able to read either team.

Nonetheless, I'll be watching, and all I'm hoping for is a good game, some fair refs, and some really good jokes/commercials that may refer to "deflategate".

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

I'm sticking with my previous prediction. A low scoring first half. Both teams having a hard time sustaining drives with consistency. I like Seattle winning about 27-20. If so, I'm hoping Russell Wilson wins MVP.

But mostly, I want an exciting game, and a close game without any bad calls, controversy, or stupid mistakes.

 

[Amsterhammer]

I've been trying all week, but despite my best efforts I have been singularly unsuccessful at raising any enthusiasm for this game. Basically, I'd like them both to lose. If pushed, I have a small preference for the 'old master' to show up the 'young pretender', but I really don't care.....

 

[blutto]

....in related news....

http://tomatobubble.com/id444.html

Cheers

 

[on3m@n@rmy]

this game is a real interesting game because the outcome has the potential to be just about anything; it could be a very close game, it could be a very lopsided victory for either team. I think it will come down to game planning and who can make the adjustments sooner, so I cannot make any prediction. But the surprise factor and motivation could play into this. NE can always present surprises, but for this game SEA has a little surprise awaiting that nobody has seen (BD). But as for motivation, what could be more motivating than the SB? Interesting the timing of a quasi-announcement that Lynch will be given a huge contract extension. For this game that translates to Beast Mode x 10, and OLine angst x 10. That's just a gut feel, so we'll see.

On Lynch, many consider him a villain, though real SEA fans know differently. There was a very interesting article in this week's issue of Sports Illustrated wherein Richard Sherman paints a clear picture of who the League's real Darth Vader is, and why. I will have to explain more later.

 

[Tricycle Rider]

....in related news....

http://tomatobubble.com/id444.html

Cheers

I actually sort of agree with some of that, and I must stress some. But ultimately, what's wrong with having some purely dumb fun once in a while?

(I mean, I could be putting the fenders back on my bike instead [being it's finally started raining here], but I know they will make funny noises once I'm riding, so I know I'll just be taking them right off again. Talk about dumb fun...)

 

[Oldman]

this game is a real interesting game because the outcome has the potential to be just about anything; it could be a very close game, it could be a very lopsided victory for either team. I think it will come down to game planning and who can make the adjustments sooner, so I cannot make any prediction. But the surprise factor and motivation could play into this. NE can always present surprises, but for this game SEA has a little surprise awaiting that nobody has seen (BD). But as for motivation, what could be more motivating than the SB? Interesting the timing of a quasi-announcement that Lynch will be given a huge contract extension. For this game that translates to Beast Mode x 10, and OLine angst x 10. That's just a gut feel, so we'll see.

On Lynch, many consider him a villain, though real SEA fans know differently. There was a very interesting article in this week's issue of Sports Illustrated wherein Richard Sherman paints a clear picture of who the League's real Darth Vader is, and why. I will have to explain more later.

I don't know why Amster wants both teams to lose but generally I agree with you; it could get down to one or two key plays that set the tone for a quarter or more. As for Lynch's importance to the overall outcome I think Seattle is doing well having everyone focus on that. The options will come from that.
I also think the NE is better suited to run up tough lead on the Seahawks and hold it. The flip side is; is Seattle takes away NE's short game it will be a long day for Brady.
Maybe it's a local sense of historical inferiority but I think NE will win 27-17. Don't want it to happen but if NE defense performs; that could happen.

 

[Amsterhammer]

I don't know why Amster wants both teams to lose

Because I have absolutely no warm or fuzzy feelings for either of these teams, and because there are sufficient reasons for neutrals to dislike both of these teams for differing reasons.

I just don't care.

 

[sisavedbygrace]

Love the NFL hoping this will be another great game in which the Patriots lose lol

 

[The Hitch]

If i needed reminding how full of bull**** sports hype trains are, the local broadcaster here (Channel 4) said that the Gronk can run the 100m in under 10 seconds.

 

[The Hitch]

Because I have absolutely no warm or fuzzy feelings for either of these teams, and because there are sufficient reasons for neutrals to dislike both of these teams for differing reasons.

I just don't care.

There are only 2 things I wanted from this season in the NFL.

1 that the Seahawks don't win
2 that the Patriots don't win.

I think I'll take the Seahawks because I think after Wilson takes the contract he can't carry them.

Pats might fall after Brady retires but with 4 sb's their fans will always look back to that.

+ I don't like Brady getting called the best ever because of 4 sbs when sb titles is a ****ty way to measure a position that represents less than 1/5th of the teams success.
Brady only got the first 3 because of how low he got picked in the draft.

 

[Amsterhammer]

Worst. Play call. Ever. So dumb, they deserved to lose. Otherwise, an enjoyable game for the neutral.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Agree completely. Took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[jaylew]

Worst call in NFL history. 2nd and 1. From the 1. You have 35-40 seconds. You have a timeout. You have 3 freaking tries to get a td. Give the f**king ball to Beastmode!

Why throw the ball at all? And the only quasi-acceptable pass is a fade route.

Unfu**kingbelievable.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Worst. Play call. Ever. So dumb, they deserved to lose. Otherwise, an enjoyable game for the neutral.

Agree completely. Took the words right out of my mouth.

Worst call in NFL history. 2nd and 1. From the 1. You have 35-40 seconds. You have a timeout. You have 3 freaking tries to get a td. Give the f**king ball to Beastmode!

Why throw the ball at all? And the only quasi-acceptable pass is a fade route.

Unfu**kingbelievable.

Can somebody explain please? Gotta drunk somehow. As promised...

The outcome was sweeeet.... Pro sports spoiled and all, but omg, the most deserving win ever. I am pretty much pleased. So happy, I cud fall in love with football again. Very well deserved and more... and even much more. Football won tonight, like it shud be

 

[ChewbaccaD]

For sense of drama, it was hard to beat that game. It was close, and just when you thought it was going one way, it turned the other. If you couldn't enjoy that from a purely sporting view, you must not enjoy sports at all.

One of my favorite Super Bowls ever, and I was hoping Seattle would win.

 

[Eshnar]

Worst. Play call. Ever. So dumb, they deserved to lose. Otherwise, an enjoyable game for the neutral.

this.
What. the. hell.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Can somebody explain please? Gotta drunk somehow.

• Seattle up 24-14 at the start of the 4th.
• Brady marches Pats down the field, TD cuts it to 24-21.
• A few more drives go nowhere for either team.
• Brady again chips and chisels the pats down the field. Take the lead at 28-24 with 2:02 left.
• Wilson moves Seattle to mid-field. Then with about a minute left launches a well thrown bomb into tight coverage and Doug Baldwin makes an amazing catch, and gets out of bounds at about the 5.
• Seattle pounds Lynch down to the 1. He almost gets in.
• On 2nd and goal from the 1, with 26 seconds left, and 1 time out remaining, Seattle lines up in a standard pass formation, and tries a slant. Malcom Butler of New England reads it perfect and picks Wilson off.

Monday morning quarterbacking: Most people on the planet were surprised on 2nd and goal that Seattle lined up in any pass formation at all. And after the pass, everyone left on the planet wondered why on earth Seattle, who had Marshan Lynch - the best power running back in football who thrives in situations like this - wasn't given another chance to punch it in. Granted, running Lynch was the most obvious call, but many teams knew he was coming, and couldn't stop him all year. Including the Pats in this game. But if Seattle wanted to throw, why line up 4 wide? Why not bunch up like a run with 2 receivers wide, and throw a fade route in the deep corner? Or have Wilson roll out, and if no one is open, heave it into the stands?

At least Pete Carroll later admitted he blew the call. He said the call was on him, and his mistake alone, but he chose it because New England had stacked the DL, and this slant play had worked all season. Darrell Bevell stated that Seattle was conscious of the clock, which prompted the pass. People are calling it the worst call in NFL history, and maybe it was. But the bottom line is that Malcom Butler made a terrific anticipation pick, in what overall was a terrific game to watch, with a lot of drama. I know it's a tough pill for Seattle fans to swallow, but I think they'll recover just fine. They didn't tank, didn't blow the game, they just didn't win.

Here's a good article on ESPN with Trent Dilfer discussing the play.

 

[Eshnar]

? Seattle up 24-14 at the start of the 4th.
? Brady marches Pats down the field, TD cuts it to 24-21.
? A few more drives go nowhere for either team.
? Brady again chips and chisels the pats down the field. Take the lead at 28-24 with 2:02 left.
? Wilson moves Seattle to mid-field. Then with about a minute left launches a well thrown bomb into tight coverage and Doug Baldwin makes an amazing catch, and gets out of bounds at about the 5.
? Seattle pounds Lynch down to the 1. He almost gets in.
? On 2nd and goal from the 1, with 26 seconds left, and 1 time out remaining, Seattle lines up in a standard pass formation, and tries a slant. Malcom Butler of New England reads it perfect and picks Wilson off.

Monday morning quarterbacking: Most people on the planet were surprised on 2nd and goal that Seattle lined up in any pass formation at all. And after the pass, everyone left on the planet wondered why on earth Seattle, who had Marshan Lynch - the best power running back in football who thrives in situations like this - wasn't given another chance to punch it in. Granted, running Lynch was the most obvious call, but many teams knew he was coming, and couldn't stop him all year. Including the Pats in this game. But if Seattle wanted to throw, why line up 4 wide? Why not bunch up like a run with 2 receivers wide, and throw a fade route in the deep corner? Or have Wilson roll out, and if no one is open, heave it into the stands?

At least Pete Carroll later admitted he blew the call. He said the call was on him, and his mistake alone, but he chose it because New England had stacked the DL, and this slant play had worked all season. Darrell Bevell stated that Seattle was conscious of the clock, which prompted the pass. People are calling it the worst call in NFL history, and maybe it was. But the bottom line is that Malcom Butler made a terrific anticipation pick, in what overall was a terrific game to watch, with a lot of drama. I know it's a tough pill for Seattle fans to swallow, but I think they'll recover just fine. They didn't tank, didn't blow the game, they just didn't win.

Here's a good article on ESPN with Trent Dilfer discussing the play.

They had all the time in the world... 26 sec and 1 TO for three runs and 1 yard. It was literally a dream scenario. I really can't believe they went for a pass. Even in terms of time management, you can even hope you don't score at the first play so you can burn some time.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

So happy Seattle lost.

Wish the Patriots could have lost also but that was impossible.

I just wish Seattle had to give Wilson a fat contract and lose some of their players. Seattle winning all the time is bad for Merikah.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Oh, I agree completely Eshnar. Just to give you perspective, Tom Brady even stated something akin to that he couldn't believe he was going to have to go back out on the field. Meaning he was thinking about how to move the ball 40 yards to get them in FG range in the 20 seconds they'd have left.

Glenn - I'm not sure why you say Seattle is winning all the time? They've had three really good seasons in a row, and one other year they got to the big game. The rest of their history they have been average, at best. Edit: Are you saying that because Seattle is filled with a bunch of latte sipping, grunge listening, hipster liberals, it's bad for "Merikah", then yes, I get it!