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[Alpe d'Huez]

I'll comment on all the other games later, but the first one that caught my attention was the way the Raiders almost penalized themselves into oblivion, but the defense really sucked it up late, and most of all, Derek Carr has to be in any conversation about league MVP at this point. He threw some extremely clutch throws all across the field, late, and when the team was in trouble. Not once, or twice, but on three drives late in the game and in OT. Carr moves very well with the pocket, but huge props also go to the Raiders OL. Despite some drive killing penalties throughout the game, they protected Carr, especially late in the game when it mattered most. Raiders are 5-0 on the road.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/derek-carr-oakland-raiders-tampa-bay-score-mvp-stats-highlights-103016

 

[Irondan]

Re:

I'll comment on all the other games later, but the first one that caught my attention was the way the Raiders almost penalized themselves into oblivion, but the defense really sucked it up late, and most of all, Derek Carr has to be in any conversation about league MVP at this point. He threw some extremely clutch throws all across the field, late, and when the team was in trouble. Not once, or twice, but on three drives late in the game and in OT. Carr moves very well with the pocket, but huge props also go to the Raiders OL. Despite some drive killing penalties throughout the game, they protected Carr, especially late in the game when it mattered most. Raiders are 5-0 on the road.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/derek-carr-oakland-raiders-tampa-bay-score-mvp-stats-highlights-103016

Speaking of getting penalized into oblivion....

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...egregious-officiating-loss-new-orleans-saints

Some questionable calls dictated the outcome of the Seahawks vs. Saints game.

The Seahawks officially got penalized into oblivion.

 

[red_flanders]

Sherman complaining about officiating. That's rich. Never seen a secondary get away with more than theirs. From last year's WSJ:

As for the Seahawks, a study of every defensive snap the team played in five randomly selected games this season suggests they should have been called for about 26 additional penalties over the 16-game regular season, including 16 for illegal contact—which occurs when a defensive player impedes a receiver more than five yards beyond the line of scrimmage. In these cases, the offense is given five yards and an automatic first down. But the Seahawks didn't incur a single illegal-contact penalty all season.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303743604579350864192256256

That is absolutely stunning. If the officiating was consistent they'd have 3 more losses a year. STFU Sherman.

 

[Irondan]

Sherman complaining about officiating. That's rich. Never seen a secondary get away with more than theirs. From last year's WSJ:

As for the Seahawks, a study of every defensive snap the team played in five randomly selected games this season suggests they should have been called for about 26 additional penalties over the 16-game regular season, including 16 for illegal contact—which occurs when a defensive player impedes a receiver more than five yards beyond the line of scrimmage. In these cases, the offense is given five yards and an automatic first down. But the Seahawks didn't incur a single illegal-contact penalty all season.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303743604579350864192256256

That is absolutely stunning. If the officiating was consistent they'd have 3 more losses a year. STFU Sherman.

The Seahawks are consistently one of the most penalized teams in the NFL, and that old article doesn't show us anything because it's behind a paywall. It's two years old anyway, and has nothing to do with my comment. If you saw the game yesterday you'd understand Sherman's perspective, and my point.

 

[red_flanders]

Sherman complaining about officiating. That's rich. Never seen a secondary get away with more than theirs. From last year's WSJ:

As for the Seahawks, a study of every defensive snap the team played in five randomly selected games this season suggests they should have been called for about 26 additional penalties over the 16-game regular season, including 16 for illegal contact—which occurs when a defensive player impedes a receiver more than five yards beyond the line of scrimmage. In these cases, the offense is given five yards and an automatic first down. But the Seahawks didn't incur a single illegal-contact penalty all season.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702303743604579350864192256256

That is absolutely stunning. If the officiating was consistent they'd have 3 more losses a year. STFU Sherman.

The Seahawks are consistently one of the most penalized teams in the NFL, and that old article doesn't show us anything because it's behind a paywall. It's two years old anyway, and has nothing to do with my comment. If you saw the game yesterday you'd understand Sherman's perspective, and my point.

You have the relevant quote and I've seen nothing different over the last year and this year which makes it less relevant. He and the Seahawks have benefitted from horrible inconsistent officiating for years, and now that he thinks a couple plays didn't go his way, he's whining. I have NO sympathy for him.

I did see the plays in question–they should have been called...like every other pick play that happens every freaking week. The calling or non-calling of pick plays is absolutely at the whim of the refs, there is no consistency to it whatsoever. They rarely call it, and when they do they call the least egregious examples of it. It should be called every time. Denver runs them every game and never gets called.

The point is that Sherman has benefited for years from bad officiating and now he's whining about a couple of calls no one gets. Cry me a river. They lost because their offense is not performing this year. Sherman needs to STFU. He's a whiner and a loudmouth.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Re: Re:

I'll comment on all the other games later, but the first one that caught my attention was the way the Raiders almost penalized themselves into oblivion, but the defense really sucked it up late, and most of all, Derek Carr has to be in any conversation about league MVP at this point. He threw some extremely clutch throws all across the field, late, and when the team was in trouble. Not once, or twice, but on three drives late in the game and in OT. Carr moves very well with the pocket, but huge props also go to the Raiders OL. Despite some drive killing penalties throughout the game, they protected Carr, especially late in the game when it mattered most. Raiders are 5-0 on the road.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/derek-carr-oakland-raiders-tampa-bay-score-mvp-stats-highlights-103016

Speaking of getting penalized into oblivion....

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...egregious-officiating-loss-new-orleans-saints

Some questionable calls dictated the outcome of the Seahawks vs. Saints game.

The Seahawks officially got penalized into oblivion.

Oh boy. Well I was at the game and the Seahawks got penalized not nearly enough. I HATE (very strong word) but never the less have no respect for the Seahawks so Karma finaly showed up.

All these past years when the saints did have to play the seahawks it was always in Seattle. After yesterday and the following party in the quarter. Maybe some of those seahawk fans will reconsider the trip to the DOME the next time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOWfYsMTwLA

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

How quickly people forget, it was just two short weeks ago when the Seahawks beat the Falcons, and the very last offensive play for Atlanta replays showed that Julio Jones was clearly interfered with. And who was it that got away with it? Richard Sherman.

Don't get me wrong. Sherman is one of the best CB's in the NFL, and despite being brash, he's a bright guy. But I saw much of that game, and his whining is a bunch of BS.

 

[movingtarget]

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[movingtarget]

I think the Lions v Vikings, Broncos v Raiders and Titans v Chargers should be the pick of the games this week. The Panthers V Rams could be a dog fight as well. The Cowboys should continue their winning run, against the Browns without much trouble. I think the Eagles should be too good for the Giants in a close one. The Bills v Seahawks might also be interesting.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

I agree with your thoughts, though I think the Giants have a pretty good shot at beating the Eagles at home, their defense is solid enough, it's a matter of their offense and Eli playing mistake free.

You're right about the Titans vs. Chargers. Both teams are better than their record might indicate, but to me Tennessee is on the verge of breaking out and winning that division. It may only be a 10-6 record that takes the AFC South anyway.

I think the Bills defense may be able to hold the Seattle offense in check, the Seahawks offense is pretty anemic anyway, but Buffalo is built to run, and not much of a running game, with both McCoy and Bush hurt, I'm not sure if McCoy is good to go yet though.

I'm really hoping the Raiders to finally break out and show they can play consistent, especially on defense, and mistake free, because that's what it's going to take to beat the Broncos.

 

[movingtarget]

Raiders had a good win over Denver. Two games i did not see but sounded like they were worth watching were the Seahawks and Bills plus the Titans and Chargers. Panthers have finally strung a few wins together. 49ers run defense continues to set records for yards conceded. The Eagles and the Vikings have stalled after good starts to the season while the form teams remain to be the Patriots and the Cowboys while the Raiders are also doing well. The Seahawks also look playoff bound again at this stage while the Cardinals like the Panthers look none too convincing and even Denver are not playing that well.

 

[BullsFan22]

So much to say about the Seahawks. First about their actual play. Offense is starting to play better. Graham had a couple great catches, 2 TDs, Wilson is starting to look better and perhaps he is starting to get over the injuries. Still, they need to be more consistent and with the Patriots coming up, Wilson is gonna have to be even more mobile. The defense, on the other hand, is going the other direction. I think a lot of this has to do with injuries piling up. I think the aggressive nature of their defense, having a lot of their players on that end very active, going for plays, being physical, etc has taken a toll. They are supposed to get three key defensive (among them Bennett) back in the very near future, so that should help. The injuries are also happening because their offense being so lethargic and unpredictable week by week, that they (offense) isn't giving them (defense) enough rest. Not getting enough 3rd down conversions, possession of ball is not there (perfect example was last night against the Bills, check the possession time, it was heavily in Buffalo's favor, though the fault was mostly of the defense, which this time gave the Bills too many first downs, check the stats, crazy!!).

They have a favorable schedule the 2nd half of the season. Yes, they travel to New England on Sunday, but the better the opponent, the better the Seahawks seem to play, so if both teams are playing well, it could be a great game! After that, a key road game is against the Packers, not until December, and the Packers aren't exactly killin' this season. The other games are Panthers (underperforming mightily this year), Eagles (a good start to the season, now stalling), they play the Bucks, who shouldn't be too much of a problem, and obviously the division games vs Cards, Rams and 49ers, none of which are playing well at the moment, even if the Rams have given the Seahawks problems over the past couple seasons.

Now to the controversial call(s). It seems like the Hawks just can't seem to escape controversy on the field, be it in their favor or in the opponents favor. I think it has a lot to do with the style of their defense. Like I mentioned in regards to injuries, all their players are mobile, or at least the ones that need to be, and the play tough and go for everything. Sherman got away with one, even if he doesn't want to admit it. Remember Kam Chancellor jumping over the D formation two or three times in a row a couple years ago? It was called for a fall start, but he did it two or three times on the play alone. That's been evident in Carroll's run with the Hawks. Having said that, the penalties and those not called penalties have really taken away from some of their games. It really started four years ago on that now infamous MNF game at home vs the Packers. The "Fail Marry." Ironically, that game really jump started this current run of good form. Had they lost that MNF game, they would have been 1-2, the next game was at the Rams, which they lost, so 1-3...and who knows what after that. They seem to be involved in controversial games on a seemingly regular basis. It's not just once or twice a year, but now it seems like it's one or two plays A GAME!

 

[Nomad]

So much to say about the Seahawks. First about their actual play. Offense is starting to play better. Graham had a couple great catches, 2 TDs, Wilson is starting to look better and perhaps he is starting to get over the injuries. Still, they need to be more consistent and with the Patriots coming up, Wilson is gonna have to be even more mobile. The defense, on the other hand, is going the other direction. I think a lot of this has to do with injuries piling up. I think the aggressive nature of their defense, having a lot of their players on that end very active, going for plays, being physical, etc has taken a toll. They are supposed to get three key defensive (among them Bennett) back in the very near future, so that should help. The injuries are also happening because their offense being so lethargic and unpredictable week by week, that they (offense) isn't giving them (defense) enough rest. Not getting enough 3rd down conversions, possession of ball is not there (perfect example was last night against the Bills, check the possession time, it was heavily in Buffalo's favor, though the fault was mostly of the defense, which this time gave the Bills too many first downs, check the stats, crazy!!).

They have a favorable schedule the 2nd half of the season. Yes, they travel to New England on Sunday, but the better the opponent, the better the Seahawks seem to play, so if both teams are playing well, it could be a great game! After that, a key road game is against the Packers, not until December, and the Packers aren't exactly killin' this season. The other games are Panthers (underperforming mightily this year), Eagles (a good start to the season, now stalling), they play the Bucks, who shouldn't be too much of a problem, and obviously the division games vs Cards, Rams and 49ers, none of which are playing well at the moment, even if the Rams have given the Seahawks problems over the past couple seasons.

Now to the controversial call(s). It seems like the Hawks just can't seem to escape controversy on the field, be it in their favor or in the opponents favor. I think it has a lot to do with the style of their defense. Like I mentioned in regards to injuries, all their players are mobile, or at least the ones that need to be, and the play tough and go for everything. Sherman got away with one, even if he doesn't want to admit it. Remember Kam Chancellor jumping over the D formation two or three times in a row a couple years ago? It was called for a fall start, but he did it two or three times on the play alone. That's been evident in Carroll's run with the Hawks. Having said that, the penalties and those not called penalties have really taken away from some of their games. It really started four years ago on that now infamous MNF game at home vs the Packers. The "Fail Marry." Ironically, that game really jump started this current run of good form. Had they lost that MNF game, they would have been 1-2, the next game was at the Rams, which they lost, so 1-3...and who knows what after that. They seem to be involved in controversial games on a seemingly regular basis. It's not just once or twice a year, but now it seems like it's one or two plays A GAME!

Sherman really did get away with one. That was one of the most botched calls I've seen in awhile. You had the off-sides and then Sherman should have been flagged for a personal foul; roughing the kicker. That would have been a 15 yarder, and more than likely a chip shot field goal for Carpenter. With all else being equal in the 2nd half, Buffalo would have needed only a FG to tie in the closing minutes of the game...so this had a potential impact on the outcome.

I also noticed in the Denver-Oakland game some very questionable pass interference calls, particulary with uncatchable passes. It's my understanding that if a pass is not catchable (e.g., overthrown, thrown out of bounds, thrown out of the endzone, etc), the officials are to be a little more discretionary in throwing a flag.

These are just some specific cases I saw over the weekend; I've noticed more questionable calls on pass interference, offensive holding and missed late hits on QBs throughout the season so far. Anyone else notice what appears to be some poor officiating this year?

Additionally, the AFC West is looking like the most competitive division in football right now. Denver hasn't even played KC yet and they have the 2nd game with Oakland in their final of the season. The days of the Broncos ruling that division may come to a screeching halt this year. And it's possible both wild-cards could come out of that division. The high draft picks over the past couple of years and the rapid development of Carr are really paying off at Oakland. I hope Carr can stay healthy...QBs are dropping like flies this year.

 

[movingtarget]

So much to say about the Seahawks. First about their actual play. Offense is starting to play better. Graham had a couple great catches, 2 TDs, Wilson is starting to look better and perhaps he is starting to get over the injuries. Still, they need to be more consistent and with the Patriots coming up, Wilson is gonna have to be even more mobile. The defense, on the other hand, is going the other direction. I think a lot of this has to do with injuries piling up. I think the aggressive nature of their defense, having a lot of their players on that end very active, going for plays, being physical, etc has taken a toll. They are supposed to get three key defensive (among them Bennett) back in the very near future, so that should help. The injuries are also happening because their offense being so lethargic and unpredictable week by week, that they (offense) isn't giving them (defense) enough rest. Not getting enough 3rd down conversions, possession of ball is not there (perfect example was last night against the Bills, check the possession time, it was heavily in Buffalo's favor, though the fault was mostly of the defense, which this time gave the Bills too many first downs, check the stats, crazy!!).

They have a favorable schedule the 2nd half of the season. Yes, they travel to New England on Sunday, but the better the opponent, the better the Seahawks seem to play, so if both teams are playing well, it could be a great game! After that, a key road game is against the Packers, not until December, and the Packers aren't exactly killin' this season. The other games are Panthers (underperforming mightily this year), Eagles (a good start to the season, now stalling), they play the Bucks, who shouldn't be too much of a problem, and obviously the division games vs Cards, Rams and 49ers, none of which are playing well at the moment, even if the Rams have given the Seahawks problems over the past couple seasons.

Now to the controversial call(s). It seems like the Hawks just can't seem to escape controversy on the field, be it in their favor or in the opponents favor. I think it has a lot to do with the style of their defense. Like I mentioned in regards to injuries, all their players are mobile, or at least the ones that need to be, and the play tough and go for everything. Sherman got away with one, even if he doesn't want to admit it. Remember Kam Chancellor jumping over the D formation two or three times in a row a couple years ago? It was called for a fall start, but he did it two or three times on the play alone. That's been evident in Carroll's run with the Hawks. Having said that, the penalties and those not called penalties have really taken away from some of their games. It really started four years ago on that now infamous MNF game at home vs the Packers. The "Fail Marry." Ironically, that game really jump started this current run of good form. Had they lost that MNF game, they would have been 1-2, the next game was at the Rams, which they lost, so 1-3...and who knows what after that. They seem to be involved in controversial games on a seemingly regular basis. It's not just once or twice a year, but now it seems like it's one or two plays A GAME!

Sherman really did get away with one. That was one of the most botched calls I've seen in awhile. You had the off-sides and then Sherman should have been flagged for a personal foul; roughing the kicker. That would have been a 15 yarder, and more than likely a chip shot field goal for Carpenter. With all else being equal in the 2nd half, Buffalo would have needed only a FG to tie in the closing minutes of the game...so this had a potential impact on the outcome.

I also noticed in the Denver-Oakland game some very questionable pass interference calls, particulary with uncatchable passes. It's my understanding that if a pass is not catchable (e.g., overthrown, thrown out of bounds, thrown out of the endzone, etc), the officials are to be a little more discretionary in throwing a flag.

These are just some specific cases I saw over the weekend; I've noticed more questionable calls on pass interference, offensive holding and missed late hits on QBs throughout the season so far. Anyone else notice what appears to be some poor officiating this year?

Additionally, the AFC West is looking like the most competitive division in football right now. Denver hasn't even played KC yet and they have the 2nd game with Oakland in their final of the season. The days of the Broncos ruling that division may come to a screeching halt this year. And it's possible both wild-cards could come out of that division. The high draft picks over the past couple of years and the rapid development of Carr are really paying off at Oakland. I hope Carr can stay healthy...QBs are dropping like flies this year.

At the halfway point of the season neither of the two teams that played the last Super Bowl are looking convincing especially the Panthers. Some of the rules just have to be simplified, every week it seems there are some crazy interpretations of the rules by officials. The Raiders are doing well for the most penalized team in the NFL. If they can get that under control then they will do even better. The upcoming Seahawks v Patriots game should be a good one.

 

[Billie]

End of the half on MNF was the worst piece of officiating I have ever seen

 

[movingtarget]

Re:

End of the half on MNF was the worst piece of officiating I have ever seen

I just watched the replay. You are right, terrible.

 

[Nomad]

Re: Re:

End of the half on MNF was the worst piece of officiating I have ever seen

I just watched the replay. You are right, terrible.

And now Richard Sherman is being fined $9000 (pocket change) for the late hit on Carpenter while the officiating crew will not be disciplined. Lol.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18015351/seattle-seahawks-cornerback-richard-sherman-fined-hit-buffalo-bills-kicker-dan-carpenter

As I mentioned previously, this botched call had a potential impact on the outcome of the game. Had the proper call been made, the 15 yd penalty would have more than likely been a chip shot FG for Carpenter. And with all else being equal in the 2nd half, Buffalo would have only needed a FG to tie instead of a game winning TD in the closing minutes.

That being said though, if Taylor, with 2+ minutes and a short field can't get them in the end zone, then he's not the Bill's answer for a starting QB. That amount of time is an eternity for the likes of Brady, Brees, Stafford, etc.

 

[movingtarget]

Re: Re:

End of the half on MNF was the worst piece of officiating I have ever seen

I just watched the replay. You are right, terrible.

And now Richard Sherman is being fined $9000 (pocket change) for the late hit on Carpenter while the officiating crew will not be disciplined. Lol.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18015351/seattle-seahawks-cornerback-richard-sherman-fined-hit-buffalo-bills-kicker-dan-carpenter

As I mentioned previously, this botched call had a potential impact on the outcome of the game. Had the proper call been made, the 15 yd penalty would have more than likely been a chip shot FG for Carpenter. And with all else being equal in the 2nd half, Buffalo would have only needed a FG to tie instead of a game winning TD in the closing minutes.

That being said though, if Taylor, with 2+ minutes and a short field can't get them in the end zone, then he's not the Bill's answer for a starting QB. That amount of time is an eternity for the likes of Brady, Brees, Stafford, etc.

I thought Taylor played well apart from the end of the game.

 

[The Hitch]

I refuse to believe anymore that the continuous favouring of the Seahawks by the refs in every single game they play in Seattle and some outside of Seattle, is a statistical anomaly. it has happened so often now in the last 5 years or so, that it can't just be a coincidence that the refs always favour them.

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

Yes, that call was deplorable. The only explanations I've seen to read are that the rules state the ball has to be in the air for it to be a roughing the kicker penalty, which is not only a stupid rule, but it arguably was anyway if you watch the replay. Also that the referees should have blown the whistle sooner, as quick as Sherman was offsides. Those are pretty pathetic excuses for officiating if you ask me.

Imagine if this had been Tom Brady in shotgun, and Lorenzo Alexander of Buffalo was way offsides and smashed into Brady driving him to the turf? What would the call be then? Offsides?

 

[Billie]

Re: Re:

End of the half on MNF was the worst piece of officiating I have ever seen

I just watched the replay. You are right, terrible.

And now Richard Sherman is being fined $9000 (pocket change) for the late hit on Carpenter while the officiating crew will not be disciplined. Lol.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18015351/seattle-seahawks-cornerback-richard-sherman-fined-hit-buffalo-bills-kicker-dan-carpenter

As I mentioned previously, this botched call had a potential impact on the outcome of the game. Had the proper call been made, the 15 yd penalty would have more than likely been a chip shot FG for Carpenter. And with all else being equal in the 2nd half, Buffalo would have only needed a FG to tie instead of a game winning TD in the closing minutes.

That being said though, if Taylor, with 2+ minutes and a short field can't get them in the end zone, then he's not the Bill's answer for a starting QB. That amount of time is an eternity for the likes of Brady, Brees, Stafford, etc.

are you f'in stupid? Taylor was very impressive. Tell me which QB went into Seattle and had better performance last 5 years? Palmer last year must be the only one

 

[movingtarget]

Looking forward to the Patriots v Seahawks game. Falcons v Eagles and Dolphins v Chargers should also be good viewing. Cowboys should be too good for the Steelers. Redskins v Vikings should be a tight one. Vikings need to arrest their slide as do the Eagles. If the 49ers lose to the Cardinals which is likely then the odds will shorten for them to to at least get second pick in the next draft. Their defense has been bad since week two and with three of their best defenders still out it seems likely to continue even though their offense has improved this year. Cardinals and Panthers have to keep the wins ticking over if they want to make the playoffs so they have a lot to play for.

 

[The Hitch]

Now to the controversial call(s). It seems like the Hawks just can't seem to escape controversy on the field, be it in their favor or in the opponents favor.

Could you expand on the bolded? Because there are so so many incidents of the refs rigging close games for the seahawks, and this was what people were saying 2-3 years ago. There were plenty more last year and already in their last 2 home games the opponent got jobbed big time yet again.

I'm sure they occasionally get bad calls as well from time to time, like any team, but of the most memorable referee screwjobs in the nfl in the last 6 years or so, about 50% have been at Clink in favour of the Seattle Seahawks and the other 50% for the other 31 teams in the league, and I don't remember any major ones against them. (maybe the rams fumble 2 years ago, but they still fluked into hfa that year and a joke playoff schedule that year so it wouldn't have mattered)

 

[Nomad]

Re: Re:

End of the half on MNF was the worst piece of officiating I have ever seen

I just watched the replay. You are right, terrible.

And now Richard Sherman is being fined $9000 (pocket change) for the late hit on Carpenter while the officiating crew will not be disciplined. Lol.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18015351/seattle-seahawks-cornerback-richard-sherman-fined-hit-buffalo-bills-kicker-dan-carpenter

As I mentioned previously, this botched call had a potential impact on the outcome of the game. Had the proper call been made, the 15 yd penalty would have more than likely been a chip shot FG for Carpenter. And with all else being equal in the 2nd half, Buffalo would have only needed a FG to tie instead of a game winning TD in the closing minutes.

That being said though, if Taylor, with 2+ minutes and a short field can't get them in the end zone, then he's not the Bill's answer for a starting QB. That amount of time is an eternity for the likes of Brady, Brees, Stafford, etc.

are you f'in stupid? Taylor was very impressive. Tell me which QB went into Seattle and had better performance last 5 years? Palmer last year must be the only one

"are you f'in stupid?" No...perhaps you are, if you comprehended my last paragraph better and did some research before being so condescending

"The Bills' 31-25 loss to the Seahawks Monday night dropped them to 2-8 in games when they've been tied or within one possession at any point the fourth quarter with Tyrod Taylor at quarterback." ("Analysis of Tyrod Taylor's late-game numbers, update with Seattle game."/The Buffalo News):

http://buffalonews.com/2016/11/10/bills-tyrod-taylors-updated-late-game-numbers/

>Completion Pct - 46.8%
>Interceptions - 3
>Fumbles - 3
>Sacks - 5
>QB Rating - 54.2

Yeah...Taylor was impressive until the last 2 minutes of the game when it mattered. Lol. Quarterbacking in the NFL is all about making things happen at crunch time and getting "W's." Taylor's making 9.5 mil...not exactly chump change for a QB. IMO, if Taylor doesn't improve quickly in this area he'll just end-up being a journeyman backup the rest of his career.

 

[movingtarget]

Re: Re:

End of the half on MNF was the worst piece of officiating I have ever seen

I just watched the replay. You are right, terrible.

And now Richard Sherman is being fined $9000 (pocket change) for the late hit on Carpenter while the officiating crew will not be disciplined. Lol.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18015351/seattle-seahawks-cornerback-richard-sherman-fined-hit-buffalo-bills-kicker-dan-carpenter

As I mentioned previously, this botched call had a potential impact on the outcome of the game. Had the proper call been made, the 15 yd penalty would have more than likely been a chip shot FG for Carpenter. And with all else being equal in the 2nd half, Buffalo would have only needed a FG to tie instead of a game winning TD in the closing minutes.

That being said though, if Taylor, with 2+ minutes and a short field can't get them in the end zone, then he's not the Bill's answer for a starting QB. That amount of time is an eternity for the likes of Brady, Brees, Stafford, etc.

are you f'in stupid? Taylor was very impressive. Tell me which QB went into Seattle and had better performance last 5 years? Palmer last year must be the only one

"are you f'in stupid?" No...perhaps you are, if you comprehended my last paragraph better and did some research before being so condescending

"The Bills' 31-25 loss to the Seahawks Monday night dropped them to 2-8 in games when they've been tied or within one possession at any point the fourth quarter with Tyrod Taylor at quarterback." ("Analysis of Tyrod Taylor's late-game numbers, update with Seattle game."/The Buffalo News):

http://buffalonews.com/2016/11/10/bills-tyrod-taylors-updated-late-game-numbers/

>Completion Pct - 46.8%
>Interceptions - 3
>Fumbles - 3
>Sacks - 5
>QB Rating - 54.2

Yeah...Taylor was impressive until the last 2 minutes of the game when it mattered. Lol. Quarterbacking in the NFL is all about making things happen at crunch time and getting "W's." Taylor's making 9.5 mil...not exactly chump change for a QB. IMO, if Taylor doesn't improve quickly in this area he'll just end-up being a journeyman backup the rest of his career.

From what I have seen of Taylor this year he is still high up the QB scale talent wise. Most QBs get good money. You are right the end part of the game was not good but he played well for the majority. So many of the good QBs have been injured this year or are struggling so Taylor does not look that bad compared to Newton, Rodgers, Palmer, Ben and many others. He is one of the better mobile QBs that's for sure and he is still young. Those stats don't look flattering but I have not seen him play many games. From what I have seen of the games this season not many of the QBs are setting the year alight with consistently good play. Brady, Prescott, Rivers and Wilson have been up and down same with Wentz.