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No, he’s not. Their defense playing elite every single game is. A defense that kept them in every game even when Mahomes and the offense were making mistakes. If Chiefs had their defense from 2018, they’d be lucky to make the playoffs because the offense wasn’t producing. That’s not even considering their special teams playing well with their punter pinning teams back and kicker being clutch. This season was the 2019 Patriots who turned into the 2001 Patriots to win the Super Bowl.

But this year was a great year for Mahomes to settle down, get long sustained drives. and become a game manger to get the win. This is something he lacked previously that caused them to lose some games. Something I’ve criticized in the past of Mahomes and the Chiefs due to any time they tried long drives they’d make a mistake. With Rice progressing and depending on who they pick up in the draft and offseason Chiefs offense should be better next year. There’s already the rumors of Evans, Diggs, and Brown. Who else is going to come to try and get a ring now. The concern is their defensive stars that could leave and replacing them.
You still don't understand the point that I'm making. You're too focused on his  passing numbers from this season compared to his numbers in the past. Granted his passing numbers were significantly down this year in yards per average throw & TD passes (though he still threw for over 4000 yds!). However, he had a career high 389 yds rushing (5.2) on a near-career high attempts, where he was taking off for1st down yardage on 3rd & 4th down situations where the pocket broke down or no one was open (no surprises there). For example, I believe in the Jets game he had 75 yds rushing on some big 3rd & 4th down scampers keeping drives alive (btw, Mahomes has more yards rushing in only 6 seasons than Brady had in 23 seasons!).

In the playoffs this year, he rushed for a career high 141 yds on a 6.1 average again extending plays with 1st down yardage on 3rd & 4th downs instead taking a sack or throwing the ball away.

I don't think you understand at all how mobile, agile & athletic he is for a man of his size. And how these attributes allow him to change the dynamics of a game. For one, he was a dual-threat in HS & can run very effectively. FFS, at the combine he smoked the 20-yard shuttle test (measures change of direction ability, quickness, flexibility & lateral movement) in 4.08 - one of the fastest times ever recorded by a QB (that time is more representative of DBs than a 225 lb QB!). And this article was from last October when he was leading all QBs in rushing at that time:


I say again: Mahomes can beat you with his arm, mind or  feet. He's force to be reckoned with & cost Wilks his job. Lol.
 
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Too funny...he couldn't stop Mahomes. Lol

And if they sign Cousins and give Purdy the boot what a clown show over there. The 9ers are so butthurt over losing to the Chiefs - in what was supposed to be a "down year" for them. I wouldn't doubt that Shanahan is having a nervous breakdown over this - maybe his days are numbered. Lol
I would have to say, if look at the cards in your hand and you are holding a Purdy and you fold, get another hand and now you are holding a Cousins and you don't feel sick, fold again, you should do a couple of things, stop gambling on cards, immediately, go to a 12 step program, stop drinking and only smoke the stuff w seeds because the strain you are using is way to strong..
It's as if fantasy football is suddenly real and the 49ers are in state of butthurt, and coming up 5 points shy in overtime has them thinking Purdy is the weak link..come on nobody can be that high.. Purdy is going to be franchise..
My high school coach used a similar Andy Reid set up he used an X pattern..2 wide receivers @2 ft from the sidelines and little to no intention of throwing to them, assignment was to run full speed for the opposite end line of the end zone and create a missed coverage assignment and then throw underneath.. Kelce was unused and when they utilized people from12-20 from line of scrimmage suddenly moving the ball and w Pacheco if you have frozen linebackers and they are anticipating coverage instead of converging on the ball carrier, if Pacheco is given 4-5 yards to achieve ramming speed he does and seldom falls backwards..
Second half was all about Patty Mahomes taking what was available and some luck of defense showing respect for the pass and Pacheco getting 4+ on every carry.
I thought it looked like 49ers were in prevent defense and giving away anything but the long ball and it just looked soft and easy from 0-10 yards out for any patterns run by KC..
In my opinion San Francisco got out coached.. Needed man on man responsibility and normally linebacker corp on 49ers is up for the task.. I personally watch a team throughout the season that gives a 4-8 yard buffer to everyone and rely on good tackling not incomplete passes or interceptions.. and when you are willing to give away 4+ and the run after catch is good or great you get burned.. Kelce's run after catch yardage hurt SF and it consistently, constantly destroyed the Chargers.. Prevent defense prevents you from winning..
 
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You still don't understand the point that I'm making. You're too focused on his  passing numbers from this season compared to his numbers in the past. Granted his passing numbers were significantly down this year in yards per average throw & TD passes (though he still threw for over 4000 yds!). However, he had a career high 389 yds rushing (5.2) on a near-career high attempts, where he was taking off for1st down yardage on 3rd & 4th down situations where the pocket broke down or no one was open (no surprises there). For example, I believe in the Jets game he had 75 yds rushing on some big 3rd & 4th down scampers keeping drives alive (btw, Mahomes has more yards rushing in only 6 seasons than Brady had in 23 seasons!).

In the playoffs this year, he rushed for a career high 141 yds on a 6.1 average again extending plays with 1st down yardage on 3rd & 4th downs instead taking a sack or throwing the ball away.

I don't think you understand at all how mobile, agile & athletic he is for a man of his size. And how these attributes allow him to change the dynamics of a game. For one, he was a dual-threat in HS & can run very effectively. FFS, at the combine he smoked the 20-yard shuttle test (measures change of direction ability, quickness, flexibility & lateral movement) in 4.08 - one of the fastest times ever recorded by a QB (that time is more representative of DBs than a 225 lb QB!). And this article was from last October when he was leading all QBs in rushing at that time:


I say again: Mahomes can beat you with his arm, mind or  feet. He's force to be reckoned with & cost Wilks his job. Lol.
And I don’t think you understand how elite Chiefs defense was or how well their special teams were playing. As has already been said, yards don’t win you games what points you put up does. Chiefs were able to survive off their field goals and few touchdowns due to their defense stifling the opposing teams.
 
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It's more than that. The 49ers started the season as the number one rated defense and it continually slipped during the season. They were lucky to get out of the Detroit and GB games but both of those teams have a much better run game than the Chiefs as well and run defense was one of their worst ratings. Part of the problem was signing Hargrave to a big contract from the Eagles and losing a lot of depth players on defense. Young didn't have the overall impact they were looking for, Hargrave had a decent season but the 49ers pass rush deteriorated and their run defense went south. They also have Greenlaw out for the season but should get Hufanga back for part of the season.
Are you suggesting that Wilks would have been fired anyway even if they won the SB? Monster Arms in this article says Wilks failed to prepare them against KC's "zone-read plays" where Mahomes successful executed on short-yardage situations late in the game (I think Bosa was burned pretty bad on one of those. Lol).


The league is becoming an organization of satire. We're in a time now where a team goes to the SB but loses in a very close game where in the aftermath heads will roll.
 
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Are you suggesting that Wilks would have been fired anyway even if they won the SB? Monsters Arms in this article says Wilks failed to prepare them against KC's "zone-read plays" where Mahomes successful executed on short-yardage situations late in the game (I think Bosa was burned pretty bad on one of those. Lol).


The league is becoming an organization of satire. We're in a time now where a team goes to the SB but loses in a very close game where in the aftermath heads will roll.
Jim Leyland 1997, Marlins, won the World Series and owners and front office held a fire sale and described it as a time of rebuilding, so strange things can happen. If I was in 49er org, would be looking at strength coaches and other training staff, if your guys are getting injured from hopping or skipping, maybe you need a 7,8 year old girl w a jump rope and body suit to do stretching and tumbling drills!!
NFL is starting kids too late, we need tackling drills in the crib, in diapers!!
View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-BbR2KI7jg8&pp=ygUcTGl0dGxlIGdpcmxzIHR1bWJsaW5nIGRyaWxscw%3D%3D
 
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The league is becoming an organization of satire. We're in a time now where a team goes to the SB but loses in a very close game where in the aftermath heads will roll.
You mean it's basically Corporate America? David Tepper becoming the norm, not the exception. In fact, I'd be willing to bet most owners are much more wired like Tepper than Steve Biscotti, Clark Hunt, or really, a better example may be the late Art Rooney Sr. It's just that Tepper is more extroverted, unable to control his outbursts.

A good 10+ years ago I remember Jimmy Johnson on a TV show talking with another coach who went from coaching college, to the NFL, then back to college. And they both said something telling: In the NCAA you can have a season where you win your conference, get invited to a bowl game, maybe even win a bowl game, and for most every university any of these is a positive result. Most everyone walks away satisfied, something to be happy about. A great many schools can achieve this. In the NFL however there is ONE Super Bowl winner, that's it. Everyone else is a loser. Every other team failed. (Granted, the NCAA is rapidly heading towards being similar to the NFL, but again, this was many years ago). Johnson, and many others, have said many times that the NFL is a business. Period.

 
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Are you suggesting that Wilks would have been fired anyway even if they won the SB? Monster Arms in this article says Wilks failed to prepare them against KC's "zone-read plays" where Mahomes successful executed on short-yardage situations late in the game (I think Bosa was burned pretty bad on one of those. Lol).


The league is becoming an organization of satire. We're in a time now where a team goes to the SB but loses in a very close game where in the aftermath heads will roll.
Some people are saying exactly that. Wilks was a goner anyway. Shanahan never trusted him as his blitzes rarely worked or actually cost them points. They picked up Wilks late after all of the best candidates were already gone and Shanahan never allowed him to to bring his assistants with him. Wilks is known mainly for his secondary expertise and that definitely improved for the 49ers but the D line went backwards albeit with a lesser roster than last season. Scapegoat ? More like a short term hire that Shanahan never really believed in. Ironically he was the best coach on the field for the 49ers in the SB. Lots of smoke flying around about who replaces him but Staley from the Chargers is one of them. He had a good rep as a DC before he became a head coach. So far he's shown he's a mediocre head coach. He seemed to work well with McVay at the Rams as a DC. Kocurek the D line coach has turned the job down before as he doesn't want to be the DC . They were interested in Fangio last year but he went to the Dolphins and has already committed now to the Eagles. Rex Ryan is probably unlikely although another name mentioned.
 
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And I don’t think you understand how elite Chiefs defense was or how well their special teams were playing. As has already been said, yards don’t win you games what points you put up does. Chiefs were able to survive off their field goals and few touchdowns due to their defense stifling the opposing teams.
Okay...I got it, #15 had little to do with the win. In fact, probably the QB I played with in college could have easily had the same success.
 
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Single, rich, suave guy living in Las Vegas...I wonder what he took? :cool:
Maybe the foot injury wasn't doing as well as reported but he obviously passed the physical............unless Nightclubbin With Jimmy is going to be the title of his new podcast career and he was tempted by the "devil's candy".............or he confused the Cialis bottle with the HGH............
 
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Raiders will lose money but not a lot
One of the good things Dave Ziegler did as GM was set up a fairly team-friendly contract. Granted, JG was way overpaid, and he's going to walk away with $33m of Mark Davis money for doing squat. But the cap hit/dead money isn't brutal. They were going to cut him anyway, this just hastens it perhaps. Someone will pay him next year to be a back-up for $5m a year or so. It's just a matter of who, where.
 
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Bill Belicheck, Josh McDaniels, Matt Patricia, Mike Vrabel and Bill O'Brien were all part of the Patriots dynasty. They all have multiple Super Bowl rings. And yet, all are out of the NFL right now. In fact only O'Brien is employed at all (by Boston College). This seems unbelievable to me, and I wonder who is to blame. In one sense you could blame Tom Brady for being so successful post-Patriots, while no-one else was. But you can also blame some very poor play, and Mac Jones comes to mind. But each of these people, with exception to Vrabel, and Belicheck at times, has never coached that well without Brady around. But even then, it's hard to believe they are unemployed. No one wants anything to do with them. It's as if here is how people are remembering them, if they are thinking about them at all:
  • Bill Belicheck? - Old and in the way. Terrible communicator. Brady carried him for years.
  • Josh McDaniels? - Loser coach with the Raiders, and Broncos before that. His players supposedly despised him.
  • Matt Patricia? - Overeducated know-it-all who failed multiple coaching attempts, first Detroit, then terrible as Patriots OC, then even when back to just being DC with a solid Eagles team he repeatedly lost.
  • Mike Vrabel? - Big intimidating guy (or so I heard), coached a bunch of average teams. If Jeff Fisher was Mr. 7-9, Vrabel was maybe Mr. 9-7.
  • Bill O'Brien? - That's the guy who was yelling at Mac Jones on the sidelines right? When the Patriots lost several games in a row? Before that he was a losing HC for the Texans.
Even if you look at the other guys, many seem to be barely employed (Joe Judge). And others who learned somewhat under Belicheck are thought of as getting a bump elsewhere. Brian Daboll for example going from the Bills, to the now HC of the Giants. Or Brian Flores who years ago was a Patriot coach, but really spent a lot of time with the Steelers, then Dolphins, now Vikings.
 
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One of the good things Dave Ziegler did as GM was set up a fairly team-friendly contract. Granted, JG was way overpaid, and he's going to walk away with $33m of Mark Davis money for doing squat. But the cap hit/dead money isn't brutal. They were going to cut him anyway, this just hastens it perhaps. Someone will pay him next year to be a back-up for $5m a year or so. It's just a matter of who, where.
Browns
 
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  • Bill Belicheck? - Old and in the way. Terrible communicator. Brady carried him for years.
  • Josh McDaniels? - Loser coach with the Raiders, and Broncos before that. His players supposedly despised him.
  • Matt Patricia? - Overeducated know-it-all who failed multiple coaching attempts, first Detroit, then terrible as Patriots OC, then even when back to just being DC with a solid Eagles team he repeatedly lost.
  • Mike Vrabel? - Big intimidating guy (or so I heard), coached a bunch of average teams. If Jeff Fisher was Mr. 7-9, Vrabel was maybe Mr. 9-7.
  • Bill O'Brien? - That's the guy who was yelling at Mac Jones on the sidelines right? When the Patriots lost several games in a row? Before that he was a losing HC for the Texans.
BB-Wants too much control. He has a brain for the game though.
JMcD-Not a HC. Like MV, solid at the surface stuff, but not enough depth of understanding.
MP-Not a HC. Doesn't really get it. Analysis to paralyses over thinker, smart guy who can't figure out how to tie his shoes.
MV-See JMcD above...solid at the surface stuff, but not enough depth of understanding.
BO'B-not worth typing about...

If I was an owner/GM, I would be talking with BB about a consultant type role. Obviously it would have to be the right owner/GM/HC/OC/DC situation for it to work. ie: SF might have benefitted from his input, PHI definitely could have, SEA with their young new staff could... The HC/coordinators would have to be a confident, and want to learn. If there was any insecurity, it would not work. That being said, I can't see BB doing something like this.

*Note: I think that MANY people in the NFL suffer from analysis to paralysis, over thinking without enough depth of understanding.
 
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All true, but the guys I listed aren't even being considered for coordinator, position or assistant coaching positions. They are completely out of football.

I think most coaches would not want Belicheck hired as consultant, as there would be this constant fear of, "well, there's Belicheck in the wings if things go south..." So this is quite different than the Raiders hiring Marvin Lewis as a non-specific assistant coach, or Tom Coughlin as an adviser. No one thinks those guys are going to take over any job other than what they were hired for.
 
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Bill Belicheck, Josh McDaniels, Matt Patricia, Mike Vrabel and Bill O'Brien were all part of the Patriots dynasty. They all have multiple Super Bowl rings. And yet, all are out of the NFL right now. In fact only O'Brien is employed at all (by Boston College). This seems unbelievable to me, and I wonder who is to blame. In one sense you could blame Tom Brady for being so successful post-Patriots, while no-one else was. But you can also blame some very poor play, and Mac Jones comes to mind. But each of these people, with exception to Vrabel, and Belicheck at times, has never coached that well without Brady around. But even then, it's hard to believe they are unemployed. No one wants anything to do with them. It's as if here is how people are remembering them, if they are thinking about them at all:
  • Bill Belicheck? - Old and in the way. Terrible communicator. Brady carried him for years.
  • Josh McDaniels? - Loser coach with the Raiders, and Broncos before that. His players supposedly despised him.
  • Matt Patricia? - Overeducated know-it-all who failed multiple coaching attempts, first Detroit, then terrible as Patriots OC, then even when back to just being DC with a solid Eagles team he repeatedly lost.
  • Mike Vrabel? - Big intimidating guy (or so I heard), coached a bunch of average teams. If Jeff Fisher was Mr. 7-9, Vrabel was maybe Mr. 9-7.
  • Bill O'Brien? - That's the guy who was yelling at Mac Jones on the sidelines right? When the Patriots lost several games in a row? Before that he was a losing HC for the Texans.
Even if you look at the other guys, many seem to be barely employed (Joe Judge). And others who learned somewhat under Belicheck are thought of as getting a bump elsewhere. Brian Daboll for example going from the Bills, to the now HC of the Giants. Or Brian Flores who years ago was a Patriot coach, but really spent a lot of time with the Steelers, then Dolphins, now Vikings.
It wouldn't feel too sorry for these guys. They're all multi-millionaires complete with the mansions, vacation homes, fancy cars & egos. The can all retire & ride comfortably into the sunset unlike a lot of us that will practically have to work right up to our expiration date. Lol. In fact, Bilichick is a 70 millionaire:

 
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Who says it isn't about the QB primarily determining a team's success? In 30 games started only 11-19 and benched in week #16 of this past season for some guy named "Stidham." Only one season played under Payton where he obviously didn't have the patience to rebuilt with Wilson.

If it was as simple as shoring up the defense, special teams & providing more offensive weapons, etc, then that's what Payton would have exactly done giving Wilson a better team to work with next year (this Bronco O wasn't exactly loaded with weapons).

Bottom line though - Wilson laughs all the way to the bank increasing his financial empire as the Broncos organization looks like a bunch of idiots. Lol.
 
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